Bulls Summer League

[craigpb]

2nd game opinions:

Marko has a nice midrange stroke. He has no hops, but runs like a gazelle when he wants to. He needs to get add muscle but looks like he can still be useful in spots this season.

Dotson looks like is a terrible passer. Has he thrown 1 clean pass to Ayo yet? Also, the team defense was at its best when Devon was on the bench. I've seen enough. Don't like him.

Ayo is intense. Nice hands on defense. Masterful at getting over screens. Still looks like a rookie on offense. Lots of potential though.

Patrick was ball hogging in the 1st half which is what he should do in Summer League. I think he should emulate Draymond Green on defense. On offense, I'd like to see a lot more of that sweet pull up midrange jumpshot. I hope we bring in Milsap to back him up this season.

Dotson had a great late pass to Pat on the dunk to end the game. But yes he is mostly a scorer, that has no plan when he attacks.

[Michael Jackson]

TBJ over Gafford was a no-brainer. Russ Westbrook could make a broomstick look like a beastly frontcourt player

TBJ has way higher upside, and is a way better investment to make in 2020

I ignore what Westbrook did for Gafford. Just looking at what Gafford did in Chicago, he looked like a better overall prospect than TBj. They're the same basic age, both highly athletic guys with questionable skills, but Gafford is far more productive in his career so far.

Beyond that, Gafford had a much better contract, and TBJ will be gone next year unless he's a min player (in which case he didn't really pan out much anyway).

Caruso + TBJ are players that fit the contemporary NBA mould. Having two bigs who can't shoot & can't handle on the same team makes zero sense, and neither fit BD's rapid-pace style of basketball

Having a big who can dunk the hell out of everything and make athletic plays at the rim sure seems like a guy who could fit into a veyr high pass, high pace team which should be true this year.

Maybe I'm just too low on Troy Brown, but he doesn't seem like he has any particular talent we'll utilize, one way defensive guard at this point.

I think Gafford is exactly what we think he is, where there is more mystery in TBJ in a more valued position. That being said, I like Gafford and think he would be of more value to this team today. It's not that TBJ may not pan out and be just fine but the current makeup of this team Gafford would be more useful. I like his game not because it is great but it is what it is. He will never be amazing but he doesn't have to be.

[Andi Obst]

Finally got to watch the second game. Ayo’s defense really impressed me. Always puts pressure on the ballhandler, good hands, gets around screens well, has good help instincts. Didn’t do any draft scouting this year, so I didn’t have much of an idea what to expect, but I like him as a prospect.

I don’t think we have a lot of NBA-level prospects on that team, though. It’s pretty rough to watch for the most part, even by Summer League standards.

[Wingy]

Finally got to watch the second game. Ayo’s defense really impressed me. Always puts pressure on the ballhandler, good hands, gets around screens well, has good help instincts. Didn’t do any draft scouting this year, so I didn’t have much of an idea what to expect, but I like him as a prospect.

I don’t think we have a lot of NBA-level prospects on that team, though. It’s pretty rough to watch for the most part, even by Summer League standards.

There's obviously Pat, Ayo, and Marko.

Beyond them, from the limited play I've seen I like Thompson and Adams as G-League/2-way possibilities.

The rest can pack their bags for international play, including Dotson who doesn't do anything for me.

[Andi Obst]

Finally got to watch the second game. Ayo’s defense really impressed me. Always puts pressure on the ballhandler, good hands, gets around screens well, has good help instincts. Didn’t do any draft scouting this year, so I didn’t have much of an idea what to expect, but I like him as a prospect.

I don’t think we have a lot of NBA-level prospects on that team, though. It’s pretty rough to watch for the most part, even by Summer League standards.

There's obviously Pat, Ayo, and Marko.

Beyond them, from the limited play I've seen I like Thompson and Adams as G-League/2-way possibilities.

The rest can pack their bags for international play, including Dotson who doesn't do anything for me.

I like Dotson quite a bit, but also admit that it might be tough for him to ever become more than a fringe NBA guy with his limitations. It’s definitely not encouraging that he still can’t shoot at all, he really needs that.

I don’t see anything in Adams. Thompson is probably going to have a nice career overseas, he’s that kind of player to me. Not quite an NBA player, but still a guy who can have a nice pro career. Shittu and Spellman, who many here seemed to like, also do nothing for me.

The fact that Jerome Robinson got drafted in the lottery still amazes me.

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[samwana]

Finally got to watch the second game. Ayo’s defense really impressed me. Always puts pressure on the ballhandler, good hands, gets around screens well, has good help instincts. Didn’t do any draft scouting this year, so I didn’t have much of an idea what to expect, but I like him as a prospect.

I don’t think we have a lot of NBA-level prospects on that team, though. It’s pretty rough to watch for the most part, even by Summer League standards.

There's obviously Pat, Ayo, and Marko.

Beyond them, from the limited play I've seen I like Thompson and Adams as G-League/2-way possibilities.

The rest can pack their bags for international play, including Dotson who doesn't do anything for me.

Yeah Dotson is not an NBA player, he is way too limited.

Ayo looking poised to make an impact.
Marko seems to have a good basketball IQ, not sure he has enough to make it on the floor in the real games. He doesn't seem strong enough.
Pat is on another level on this team.

The other guys won't get on a roster. I'm not sure I want any of them even on a 2way contract. Definitely not Dotson again.

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[Michael Jackson]

Finally got to watch the second game. Ayo’s defense really impressed me. Always puts pressure on the ballhandler, good hands, gets around screens well, has good help instincts. Didn’t do any draft scouting this year, so I didn’t have much of an idea what to expect, but I like him as a prospect.

I don’t think we have a lot of NBA-level prospects on that team, though. It’s pretty rough to watch for the most part, even by Summer League standards.

There's obviously Pat, Ayo, and Marko.

Beyond them, from the limited play I've seen I like Thompson and Adams as G-League/2-way possibilities.

The rest can pack their bags for international play, including Dotson who doesn't do anything for me.

Yeah Dotson is not an NBA player, he is way too limited.

Ayo looking poised to make an impact.
Marko seems to have a good basketball IQ, not sure he has enough to make it on the floor in the real games. He doesn't seem strong enough.
Pat is on another level on this team.

The other guys won't get on a roster. I'm not sure I want any of them even on a 2way contract. Definitely not Dotson again.

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Dotson is black. I see the reason why we didn't play him last year.

Williams looks good on his feet in SL. I mean he still needs a lot of work skill wise but he absolutely has a NBA body. His alpha mentality is nice to see in SL, we will see if he is the same when he gets to play with the big boys, but at least it is a 180 of what he looked like last season.

Ayo looks good enough. I am pretty happy with the pick. I slate him as the Caruso replacement when that time comes.

I think Marko will be OK, he is not going to be good this year though, he needs to get stronger for sure and just get a little more NBA ready but I think this year we will see improvements and he can be a rotation player for us in the future. He does seem to have good IQ which counts for a lot.

[fleet]

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What it means if anything IDK, but he is definitely putting more energy into his dunks this summer

[Michael Jackson]

Spellman also makes me think there is an angry Felicio out on the court.

[sco]

Pat struggled today, but I'm glad he/the coaching staff is focused on him working his iso game. It highlights an area that he's going to need to work on. I heard that he hopes to work with DD on it this season - good for him!

I liked his defense overall and rebounding.

Honestly, I'd be fine if he were done with SL. I think he got some good experience...now he needs to go away and work on things.

[Stratmaster]

TBJ over Gafford was a no-brainer. Russ Westbrook could make a broomstick look like a beastly frontcourt player

TBJ has way higher upside, and is a way better investment to make in 2020

I ignore what Westbrook did for Gafford. Just looking at what Gafford did in Chicago, he looked like a better overall prospect than TBj. They're the same basic age, both highly athletic guys with questionable skills, but Gafford is far more productive in his career so far.

Beyond that, Gafford had a much better contract, and TBJ will be gone next year unless he's a min player (in which case he didn't really pan out much anyway).

Caruso + TBJ are players that fit the contemporary NBA mould. Having two bigs who can't shoot & can't handle on the same team makes zero sense, and neither fit BD's rapid-pace style of basketball

Having a big who can dunk the hell out of everything and make athletic plays at the rim sure seems like a guy who could fit into a veyr high pass, high pace team which should be true this year.

Maybe I'm just too low on Troy Brown, but he doesn't seem like he has any particular talent we'll utilize, one way defensive guard at this point.

This is part of why I don't like PWill at the 4.

If the Bulls go small ball pace they not only are shorthanded in the front court they also don't have a Center who makes sense.

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[PaKii94]

Damn didn't even realize there was a game on today

[VolumePoster]

Patrick is obviously talented, but not ready to have a focal offensive role with the team. That makes me feel a lot better about signing DDR.

[tedwilliams1999]

Offensively today was a mixed bag for Patrick, with a few nifty passes, some jumpers, and a few strong finishes. There was a lot of driving into the paint into difficult shots, and a lot of turnovers as well. He continued his work in the low post, where his only true move leads to a quick jump shot. Not as much pick and roll handling in this game.

Defensively he was a lot better, with more energy both on the perimeter and on the inside. He always has several moments a game where you want him to move or a chase down a rebound that's not in his zone, but this is the pitfall of having a low motor.

I'm happy to get a glimpse into Patrick's work this offseason, but I don't think summer league really changes anything - he's still a couple years away from unlocking more individual skills, but hopefully he's ready to contribute at the level of a high level role player as early as this season.

Ayo looked good defensively, but otherwise this game was just garbage to watch.

[Michael Jackson]

Patrick is obviously talented, but not ready to have a focal offensive role with the team. That makes me feel a lot better about signing DDR.

Thats why this team as built is actually a good situation for him. He will actually have time to develop as a player instead of just being gifted the keys to the cart and expected to drive, which we have done too much in the past with our players (including PWIll last year). I think it will help White too in the long run, he can focus on the things he needs to focus on instead of just going out and trying to score. In fairness to him we technically needed that from him. If we can develop Williams and White from this point on, that makes up for the two picks we have to give up for Vuc, who in that environment we likely wouldn't have developed.

[CBS7]

Damn didn't even realize there was a game on today

Neither did most of the Bulls' SL roster

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I recorded this game to watch it later but from the box score that seems to be a waste of time.

[mtron32]

Patrick is obviously talented, but not ready to have a focal offensive role with the team. That makes me feel a lot better about signing DDR.

Thats why this team as built is actually a good situation for him. He will actually have time to develop as a player instead of just being gifted the keys to the cart and expected to drive, which we have done too much in the past with our players (including PWIll last year). I think it will help White too in the long run, he can focus on the things he needs to focus on instead of just going out and trying to score. In fairness to him we technically needed that from him. If we can develop Williams and White from this point on, that makes up for the two picks we have to give up for Vuc, who in that environment we likely wouldn't have developed.

I was just thinking about this as I was watching him today, the dude is the 5th option and 19 years old playing with a good group of scorers he can learn from. By the time the Bulls are ready to move on from one of DeRozan or Vucc, Pat will have had plenty of time to make progress at his own pace. Gone are the days where Bulls nation has to heap all this draft pick of destiny BS on him and call him a bust after three seasons of forcing him to be the man when he isn't ready. Same thing with White, let them come up naturally.

[kodo]

I recorded this game to watch it later but from the box score that seems to be a waste of time.

Go watch some kids play on a playground, you'll watch much better basketball. Patrick was clearly the best player on the court and he was 4-12 with like 19 turnovers.