Potential Zach Trade Partners? 24/25 Edition

[DuckIII]

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The Sixers do have their eyes on other lucrative-salary impact players just in case they don’t get George. That’s why they also are looking at potential free agents like the Los Angeles Lakers’ LeBron James and New York Knicks forward OG Anunoby. If not in free agency, the Sixers believe they can use their draft assets and available cap space to acquire a difference-maker via a trade. That has led to Miami Heat forward Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls guard Zach LaVine, and New Orleans Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram being among trade interests.

I think the most interesting part of this isn't the overall news, but the severe disconnect between what the general NBA thinks of Lavine (listed among players like Butler & Ingram) and here in Chicago where people think Lavine is so bad we need to attach picks to move him.

It’s one report. All other reports, dating back nearly 6 months at this point, have consistently said Lavine’s value is in the tank and teams won’t give up real assets to get him.

Has never made sense to me, but that is the overwhelming weight of the reports. What are we supposed to do in evaluating Lavine’s potential trade value? Ignore them all because of one sentence?

[Jcool0]

I think the Bulls would say yes.

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To draft who exactly? If I'm getting the number 3 pick, I'm shopping it right away for a future pick. Though, I doubt that the Rockets are going to give up that pick for Zach of all players. No, it's not even a doubt, I know that's not the level of player they'd be hoping for in return.

Nikola Topic?

[kulaz3000]

I think the Bulls would say yes.

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To draft who exactly? If I'm getting the number 3 pick, I'm shopping it right away for a future pick. Though, I doubt that the Rockets are going to give up that pick for Zach of all players. No, it's not even a doubt, I know that's not the level of player they'd be hoping for in return.

Nikola Topic?

He is an interesting prospect but I'm not moving up for him. This is the last draft class I'd want to move up in, because some of the better players could very well end up going in the middle or the late first round. I prefer to just stay at number 11, and take my chances. Unless, the Rockets are willing to give up the 3, for just Zach straight up, which I highly doubt. And even in that case, I'd look to flip it again for a future pick.

[Jcool0]

To draft who exactly? If I'm getting the number 3 pick, I'm shopping it right away for a future pick. Though, I doubt that the Rockets are going to give up that pick for Zach of all players. No, it's not even a doubt, I know that's not the level of player they'd be hoping for in return.

Nikola Topic?

He is an interesting prospect but I'm not moving up for him. This is the last draft class I'd want to move up in, because some of the better players could very well end up going in the middle or the late first round. I prefer to just stay at number 11, and take my chances. Unless, the Rockets are willing to give up the 3, for just Zach straight up, which I highly doubt. And even in that case, I'd look to flip it again for a future pick.

I'm not sure any team likes a guy enough to move up a ton in this draft. But the best asset the Bulls could get for LaVine might be pick #3.

[Muzbar]

I think the Bulls would say yes.

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Not sure the Rockets would though.

Plus they've already got Zach LaVine in Jalen Green but younger.

[WindyCityBorn]

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The Sixers do have their eyes on other lucrative-salary impact players just in case they don’t get George. That’s why they also are looking at potential free agents like the Los Angeles Lakers’ LeBron James and New York Knicks forward OG Anunoby. If not in free agency, the Sixers believe they can use their draft assets and available cap space to acquire a difference-maker via a trade. That has led to Miami Heat forward Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls guard Zach LaVine, and New Orleans Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram being among trade interests.

I think the most interesting part of this isn't the overall news, but the severe disconnect between what the general NBA thinks of Lavine (listed among players like Butler & Ingram) and here in Chicago where people think Lavine is so bad we need to attach picks to move him.

It’s one report. All other reports, dating back nearly 6 months at this point, have consistently said Lavine’s value is in the tank and teams won’t give up real assets to get him.

Has never made sense to me, but that is the overwhelming weight of the reports. What are we supposed to do in evaluating Lavine’s potential trade value? Ignore them all because of one sentence?

We should not trade him while his value is in the toilet. That’s what a smart front office would do.

[Chi town]

I’d rather have Cam Whitmore than the 3 pick.

[Jcool0]

I think the Bulls would say yes.

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Not sure the Rockets would though.

Plus they've already got Zach LaVine in Jalen Green but younger.

And worse.

[Muzbar]

I think the Bulls would say yes.

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Not sure the Rockets would though.

Plus they've already got Zach LaVine in Jalen Green but younger.

And worse.

And developing.

Either way. Houston would have to match Zachs salary which means that'd likely have to include Dillon Brooks plus 2 or so other contracts to make it work financially and then they're throwing in the #3 pick aswell?

It would be a lateral move at best for Houston.

[drosestruts]

just curious when a player stops developing?

I'll often seen things like "Houston doesn't need Zach LaVine they have Jalen Green"

and if you point out that Zach is better than Green, the response is often that Green is young and still getting better (though not necessarily true).

But what about Zach? Is Zach, whom we all agree is better than Green, also still not improving? Is 29 too old to improve?

So Green is 22 and Zach is 29 - both are capable of continually improving their games.

It's also not only about Green's ability to one day be as good as Zach - which, if it ever happens, might not happen for another 6 years - and then what, your team is completely different. FVV and Brooks are likely no longer there.

The games get played now. Even if Jalen Green is someday as good as Zach - when will that day be?

[Jcool0]

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[Chi town]

If Lakers are out, Pistons out due to new GM, it leaves Sixers.

Very real possibility Lavine stays and rehabs his value before being sent out.

I’ll all in foret DDR walk and keep Lavine.

[Pax for Prez]

If Lakers are out, Pistons out due to new GM, it leaves Sixers.

Very real possibility Lavine stays and rehabs his value before being sent out.

I’ll all in foret DDR walk and keep Lavine.

This is probably the most realistic outcome.

Now do the Bulls move AC while his value is at it Highest (healthy, games available and contract length) ?

Pax

[sco]

If Lakers are out, Pistons out due to new GM, it leaves Sixers.

Very real possibility Lavine stays and rehabs his value before being sent out.

I’ll all in foret DDR walk and keep Lavine.

This is probably the most realistic outcome.

Now do the Bulls move AC while his value is at it Highest (healthy, games available and contract length) ?

Pax

IMO, if we keep Zach, then I'd definitely trade 1 of Coby, Caruso or Ayo because the roster needs better balance.

[jnrjr79]

If Lakers are out, Pistons out due to new GM, it leaves Sixers.

Very real possibility Lavine stays and rehabs his value before being sent out.

I’ll all in foret DDR walk and keep Lavine.

Not saying you're wrong, but why does Detroit having a new GM take them out of the running?

[WestsideResider]

Wow the bulls held on to another player until their trade value tanked. What a shocking turn of events. Truly unprecedented

[Chi town]

If Lakers are out, Pistons out due to new GM, it leaves Sixers.

Very real possibility Lavine stays and rehabs his value before being sent out.

I’ll all in foret DDR walk and keep Lavine.

This is probably the most realistic outcome.

Now do the Bulls move AC while his value is at it Highest (healthy, games available and contract length) ?

Pax

If keeping Zach which they will do to prove health and increase value…

Let DDR walk and trade Caruso for value.

AK won’t though. He will extend DDR and Caruso and trade Zach for nothing.

[boundbymusic]

Not sure the Rockets would though.

Plus they've already got Zach LaVine in Jalen Green but younger.

And worse.

And developing.

Either way. Houston would have to match Zachs salary which means that'd likely have to include Dillon Brooks plus 2 or so other contracts to make it work financially and then they're throwing in the #3 pick aswell?

It would be a lateral move at best for Houston.

Rockets Get:
Lavine
Drummond

Bulls Get:
Dillon Brooks
Jeff Green
Steven Adams
#3

Houston improves, imo (as long as Zach is healthy). We get contracts that are easier to sell off and a crap lottery ticket at #3.

[TheJordanRule]

Another mysterious / weak draft class. Usually, there's a ton of hype about the Top 10 dudes. This year, though, there's been little to no hype. Even a team with a Top 3 pick would struggle to identify a proven difference maker. Things look even more dire when you think about how teams feel that Bronny James is a mid to late first rounder, with career averages of 36 % from fg, 26 % from 3 pt, 67 % from ft, 4.8 ppg, 2.1 apg, 2.8 rpg, 0.8 spg. That's a dude who would go in the mid to late second round in most drafts. Bronny distinguished himself in the Combine against everything the top prospects did, so that serious bump up isn't just because of Lebron's influence, either. Yep. Time to be skeptical about what our #11 pick is gonna yield. At this point, I'd be happy with a PWill part 2 type of prospect.

[MGB8]

I posted the idea on another thread, but Charlotte might be willing to send Bertans contract, Grant Williams, Micic, Cody Martin and any other salary they need (maybe a sign and trade guy for filler) for LaVine and Vuc.

Basically, they get on LaVine for a couple of mediocre role players and taking on Vuc. Bulls could try to flip, say, Grant Williams plus some salary (and maybe the never-to-come Portland pick) to NY in a sign and trade for Hartenstein, too.