2025 NBA Draft Prospects

[moorhosj]

Perhaps it's not a good comparison, but I tend to think of Anthony Davis who as also a very hyped defensive first prospect.

Ad had better rebounding numbers, Stocks, DRTG, DBPM.

It's worth pointing out that AD turned 19 during March Madness of his freshman year. Flagg just turned 18 a few weeks ago. He is 16 months younger than AD was as a freshman.

[Jstock12]

Who's the better prospect?

Hansen Yang

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Jakucionis is going off on Peacock. 16 first half points on 5-6 FG, 3-4 3P.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Perhaps it's not a good comparison, but I tend to think of Anthony Davis who as also a very hyped defensive first prospect.

Ad had better rebounding numbers, Stocks, DRTG, DBPM.

It's worth pointing out that AD turned 19 during March Madness of his freshman year. Flagg just turned 18 a few weeks ago. He is 16 months younger than AD was as a freshman.

That would mean AD was about 8 months older.

[Rose2Boozer]

Who's the better prospect?

Hansen Yang

I've been out of the Hansen Yang loop.

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[Jstock12]

Who's the better prospect?

Hansen Yang

I've been out of the Hansen Yang loop.

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He's been productive. The Chinese league isn't the strongest, but the teams usually invest heavily in the center position by signing a good foreign player. So Hansen Yang is going up against the likes of Jared Sullinger, Eric Moreland, Darius Bazley, Kenneth Lofton, Damian Jones, Marquese Chris, Harry Giles... Those were solid college players who now have even more experience and are matured as players. So I think the competition he's facing is at the very least NCAA level.

[DuckIII]

Perhaps it's not a good comparison, but I tend to think of Anthony Davis who as also a very hyped defensive first prospect.

Ad had better rebounding numbers, Stocks, DRTG, DBPM.

It's worth pointing out that AD turned 19 during March Madness of his freshman year. Flagg just turned 18 a few weeks ago. He is 16 months younger than AD was as a freshman.

That would mean AD was about 8 months older.

That’s basically a full basketball season for an 18 year old. It’s quite a bit.

Regardless one would expect AD, an athletic 7 footer who only played in the paint, to have more rebounds and blocks than a 6’8 guy who will play the 3/4. I don’t understand invoking Davis to discuss Flagg.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

It's worth pointing out that AD turned 19 during March Madness of his freshman year. Flagg just turned 18 a few weeks ago. He is 16 months younger than AD was as a freshman.

That would mean AD was about 8 months older.

That’s basically a full basketball season for an 18 year old. It’s quite a bit.

Regardless one would expect AD, and athletic 7 footer who only played in the paint, to have more rebounds and blocks than a 6’8 whom will play the 3/4. I don’t understand invoking Davis to discuss Flagg.

I’m not invested in the AD vs Flagg comp. Just correcting the math here.

Though, generally speaking, I don’t find Flagg’s age nearly as compelling as the fact he reclassified.

[drosestruts]

It's worth pointing out that AD turned 19 during March Madness of his freshman year. Flagg just turned 18 a few weeks ago. He is 16 months younger than AD was as a freshman.

That would mean AD was about 8 months older.

That’s basically a full basketball season for an 18 year old. It’s quite a bit.

Regardless one would expect AD, and athletic 7 footer who only played in the paint, to have more rebounds and blocks than a 6’8 whom will play the 3/4. I don’t understand invoking Davis to discuss Flagg.

Fair enough

Would Ryan Dunn be a better defensive comparison?

Flagg much better rebounds

Similar in steals

Dunn blocked way more shots

Advanced stats mixed: Dunn better DWS | Flagg better DRTg and DBPM


I personally don't care for the comparison since I wasn't repeatedly told how great of a defender Dunn would be like I am with Flagg, and if I point out Flagg not producing at the level of previous great defensive prospects it's always "his age" or "his role is different"

I invoked Davis because he was very hyped, much like Flagg. And both for their defense.

For Flagg fans - does Flaggs performance and output and success in college matter at all in your ongoing evaluation of Flagg or have you just determined he's great?

Same question for Ace Bailey fans - who in my view, as been bad, and I wouldn't draft anywhere near the top of the draft. You want an athlete who can't score - just pull up to the g-league.

[2weekswithpay]

That would mean AD was about 8 months older.

That’s basically a full basketball season for an 18 year old. It’s quite a bit.

Regardless one would expect AD, and athletic 7 footer who only played in the paint, to have more rebounds and blocks than a 6’8 whom will play the 3/4. I don’t understand invoking Davis to discuss Flagg.

Fair enough

Would Ryan Dunn be a better defensive comparison?

Flagg much better rebounds

Similar in steals

Dunn blocked way more shots

Advanced stats mixed: Dunn better DWS | Flagg better DRTg and DBPM


I personally don't care for the comparison since I wasn't repeatedly told how great of a defender Dunn would be like I am with Flagg, and if I point out Flagg not producing at the level of previous great defensive prospects it's always "his age" or "his role is different"

I invoked Davis because he was very hyped, much like Flagg. And both for their defense.

For Flagg fans - does Flaggs performance and output and success in college matter at all in your ongoing evaluation of Flagg or have you just determined he's great?

Same question for Ace Bailey fans - who in my view, as been bad, and I wouldn't draft anywhere near the top of the draft. You want an athlete who can't score - just pull up to the g-league.

Dunn wasn't talked about too much because he couldn't do anything on offense besides dunk. I'm not making excuses for Flagg, but his defensive upside will never be the same as AD's because he's a forward, and AD is a big.

On Barttorvik's database since 2008, Flagg is 8th in DBPM for freshmen. 6th if you only include one and done freshmen. Only behind AD, Nerlens Noel, KAT, Jaren Jackson, and Chet.

Yeah, Flagg's performance matters. Flagg will probably be first team All-American, will probably win national player of the year, and the only college player I could confidently say is better than him is Johni Broome who is a 5th year senior. Flagg was probably overhyped a bit but his on-court performance isn't an issue.

[Rose2Boozer]

Too young to be a one and done, Jayden Quaintance

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[DuckIII]

Fair enough

Would Ryan Dunn be a better defensive comparison?

I guess. As a general matter it makes more sense to stay within the general position a guy plays if you are going to compare raw stats. Again, I wouldn't get overly caught up in that personally and I doubt scouts do either, but if you are going to make it a significant element of your analysis it makes sense to stay within the position.

I personally don't care for the comparison since I wasn't repeatedly told how great of a defender Dunn would be like I am with Flagg, and if I point out Flagg not producing at the level of previous great defensive prospects it's always "his age" or "his role is different"

You didn't hear about Dunn because no one cared about Dunn whereas Flagg is the most famous college basketball player in the world. Leading up to the draft I saw reviews of Dunn's defense that, for a wing, were the most glowing I can ever recall seeing. But I didn't pay any attention to him so I don't really know about the comp.

As for the responses you get about his age and position, those are just legitimate pieces of the picture. Especially the positional one. Comparing him to a center makes little sense.

For Flagg fans - does Flaggs performance and output and success in college matter at all in your ongoing evaluation of Flagg or have you just determined he's great?

This is a strange question given that his production is also remarkably strong. No one has to "just determine" what he is. He's having an excellent season. As I explained earlier, I don't consider him generational and never did. But he does look damn good and he's producing. So I don't get your point.

[drosestruts]

This is a strange question given that his production is also remarkably strong. No one has to "just determine" what he is. He's having an excellent season. As I explained earlier, I don't consider him generational and never did. But he does look damn good and he's producing. So I don't get your point.

It is a strange question yes - as you're right he is having a good season.

I'd argue he's getting better, which is helping the season as whole look strong.

Splits by month (rebounds have been good and consistent the whole time so omitting:

Nov: 16 points on 44/27/70 shooting splits with a 1.3:1 ASt to TO ratio

Dec: 18 points on 43/27/82 shooting splits with a 2:1 ASt/TO ratio

Jan: 24 points on 62/60/63 shooting splits with a 1.3:1 AST/TO ratio


The recent run he's been on has been great - he's scoring very well which will ultimately hold a lot of his potential at the next level.

Out of the gate I didn't feel like he was matching the hype and yet his status as #1 pick seemed to never waiver - so I asked about his production I guess as more of a hypothetical than due to his actual play which has continually improved and has recently been living up to the hype.

[Donkedave]

Last 5 games Ian Jackson has been hot! Moved into the starting line up,

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Yes I like hm for sure! See if he can keep that up

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[Muzbar]

Last 5 games Ian Jackson has been hot! Moved into the starting line up,

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Yes I like hm for sure! See if he can keep that up

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Dude's been coming on strong as of late, great to see.

I can't believe some are calling this a weak draft, it's not a 'can't miss' draft, but it's far from weak.

[Donkedave]

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Dude's been coming on strong as of late, great to see.

I can't believe some are calling this a weak draft, it's not a 'can't miss' draft, but it's far from weak.[/quote]

Who the heck was saying it is a weak draft?

[GuardianEnzo]

I completely reject the idea that Flagg has fallen short of (reasonable) expectations in any way. He's currently 5th in BPM for all freshmen since 2008. He's spent most of the season as a 17 year-old, and completely dominated in the 5 games since he turned 18. All playing against high level competition.

Flagg is going to be the #1 overall pick, he should be, and has a chance to be an MVP-caliber talent. Nothing we've seen this season does anything but support that prognosis.

[Muzbar]

Ace Bailey with probably his best all-round game today: 24pts, 11rbs, 4asts, 3blks, 8/16fgs, 4/7 3pt & 4/6 FT and helped Rutgers come back and take the win.

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Dylan Harper had himself a game too: 21pts, 5rbs, 4asts, 8/17fgs, 3/8 3pts & 2/5 FT.

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[Chi town]

Ace is def improving.

He will go 3-5 IMO.

[Guru]

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Dude's been coming on strong as of late, great to see.

I can't believe some are calling this a weak draft, it's not a 'can't miss' draft, but it's far from weak.[/quote]

Who the heck was saying it is a weak draft?[/quote]

I think it has a big drop off after 5 players.....but I am open to being wrong..

In fact I was just about to post that. I watched Kasp and he was solid...I am won over there....but so far I have

I'd like
Flagg-Kasp-Harper

I'd be interested in digging more
Bailey-Edgecombe-Newell

I can see why you like them
Demin

If we got one of those 3-6 I could be excited....but other drafts....including last year felt much deeper. Now it could just be because I'm not there on the process of evaluating them more yet and I will add more....that's not only possible, it's likely.....

but don't try to sell me on guys like Traore, who have a slow developing low shot, Or Kneuppel who is a negative athlete......

I am looking forward to finding 3-4 more guys that really have me excited about getting that most likely 7-10 draft spot.