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tenritsu wrote:I think it's appropriate to bump this thread up with a meaningful contribution.
My sister drew this:
Link for full picture since realgm cuts the end.
http://i38.tinypic.com/x4lrhf.jpg
It's like a Pegasus/Unicorn cross, but how can you argue? The boy got wings.
Jcool0 wrote:aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?
If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.
coldfish wrote:Zach should file a complaint. Some of those non calls were battery complaints.
Stratmaster wrote:Will Perdue says asinine things, and his pants are way too short.
sco wrote: New Orleans has to be one of the, if not THE hardest city to eat healthy. I think they fry the water.
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d boy gentleman wrote:Yes, Derrick is a uincorn, but this is his true form:
Hangtime84 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQHlcweY114&feature=player_embedded#at=113[/youtube]
Scottie Pippen's response to whom he would pick for his running mate, Michael or LeBron: "That's a dumbass question. I've never done anything with LeBron. I wouldn't take LeBron to the movies."
tenritsu wrote:I think it's appropriate to bump this thread up with a meaningful contribution.
My sister drew this:
Link for full picture since realgm cuts the end.
http://i38.tinypic.com/x4lrhf.jpg
It's like a Pegasus/Unicorn cross, but how can you argue? The boy got wings.
DaBulls82 wrote:If Derrick were to read that he would:
1) Giggle
2) Look down
3) Blush
4) Say "No I'm not!"
"Just gotta stand in front of him," Butler said, as if it were simple.
Blue Note wrote:So when thinking about just why Rose's game is so intriguing and unique, I came to a fairly obvious conclusion: Having a PG as the biggest and most dynamic scoring threat on the floor is a huge coup. There were questions about whether you could win while being led by a PG, but it's becoming obvious how beneficial the dynamic can be.
Typically you don't expect the PG to be a credible threat in penetration. Some have reliable floaters and crafty footwork near the rim, but rarely is the drive-and-kick such a 'pick your poison' proposition for a defender. Rose is not only strong and athletic enough to finish, but his speed and compact frame allow him to simply beat the defense to the point of contest deep at the rim. He finishes as well as any SG, and has a huge advantage because of his size (big at the point of attack, small at the point of help).
Every defender has to know where he is. Only five or six players in the league pose the same kind of threat. Yet he is a willing and able passer. Forget the assist numbers and that it's his 'job' as a PG. There's nothing more dangerous than a scorer who knows how to pass. There are players who are described as 'score-first PGs'. Rose is simply a 'best-play-available PG', what all PGs should strive to be. His options to make a play are just more varied.
Now consider that he starts at the center of the court with the ball in his hands every possession. Add the fact that against most of the league's PGs he does not require a hard screen to beat his man. He's comfortable at every spot in the half court. He can back up and give himself more room to build up momentum. He can draw defenders in as far as possible and use the jump pass to find the open man or an economic move (i.e. behind the back vs. Jennings) to beat his. The floor game is, in the words of Stacey King, his playground. This is all at the start of the play, without having to engineer a set of screens, an isolation, an entry pass, etc. The game becomes smaller and more simple from the jump.
Simply put, an elite scorer, passer, & ball-handler regardless of position. These are your elemental triple-threat skills and he has them in spades.
Blue Note wrote:So when thinking about just why Rose's game is so intriguing and unique, I came to a fairly obvious conclusion: Having a PG as the biggest and most dynamic scoring threat on the floor is a huge coup. There were questions about whether you could win while being led by a PG, but it's becoming obvious how beneficial the dynamic can be.
Typically you don't expect the PG to be a credible threat in penetration. Some have reliable floaters and crafty footwork near the rim, but rarely is the drive-and-kick such a 'pick your poison' proposition for a defender. Rose is not only strong and athletic enough to finish, but his speed and compact frame allow him to simply beat the defense to the point of contest deep at the rim. He finishes as well as any SG, and has a huge advantage because of his size (big at the point of attack, small at the point of help).
Every defender has to know where he is. Only five or six players in the league pose the same kind of threat. Yet he is a willing and able passer. Forget the assist numbers and that it's his 'job' as a PG. There's nothing more dangerous than a scorer who knows how to pass. There are players who are described as 'score-first PGs'. Rose is simply a 'best-play-available PG', what all PGs should strive to be. His options to make a play are just more varied.
Now consider that he starts at the center of the court with the ball in his hands every possession. Add the fact that against most of the league's PGs he does not require a hard screen to beat his man. He's comfortable at every spot in the half court. He can back up and give himself more room to build up momentum. He can draw defenders in as far as possible and use the jump pass to find the open man or an economic move (i.e. behind the back vs. Jennings) to beat his. The floor game is, in the words of Stacey King, his playground. This is all at the start of the play, without having to engineer a set of screens, an isolation, an entry pass, etc. The game becomes smaller and more simple from the jump.
Simply put, an elite scorer, passer, & ball-handler regardless of position. These are your elemental triple-threat skills and he has them in spades.
coldfish wrote:Is there a stat for missed shots that turn into put backs? I swear derrick does that on purpose. . . . or at least, sees when he has big men near the rim and tries to get a soft shot up.
HINrichPolice wrote:coldfish wrote:Is there a stat for missed shots that turn into put backs? I swear derrick does that on purpose. . . . or at least, sees when he has big men near the rim and tries to get a soft shot up.
That's actually something that Calipari said was done by design in Memphis. It would make sense for him to continue that in the NBA. And when you have guys like Noah, Gibson, and Boozer to clean up, it makes for an effective strategy - its purpose is like an assist.
Furthermore, some PGs might resist this knowing that it'll drop their FG%. But Derrick? He doesn't care. He has no issue drawing the big interior defender, throwing up a soft layup for the now open big to clean up. He just wants to weee'in!
RyGuy24 wrote:Same thing with the full court heaves...he can be 1-8 from the field and will still throw it up there unlike the guys who blatantly wait a second after the buzzer sounds and throw up a shot for fun.
coldfish wrote:At some point in the offseason, I was going to make a thread about Derrick and advanced stats. The numbers still don't say that he is the greatest but my eyes tell me that he is top 3 right now with Lebron and Dwight. And then there is "mojo" factor. If you actually have to win a game, only Kobe strikes me as being on Rose's level.
So, what is it about Derrick's game that transcends the stats and box scores? I'm not sure how to quantify. Is there a stat for run stopping? Virtually every night he outplays the guy he is up against, no matter how good that guy is. Is there a stat for that? Is there a stat for missed shots that turn into put backs? I swear derrick does that on purpose. . . . or at least, sees when he has big men near the rim and tries to get a soft shot up.
Regardless, I was always kind of a Rose detractor but at the same time I said that he had the tools to be one of the greatest ever and it sure seems at this point that Derrick is going to do whatever he can to maximize the talents god gave him.
We are very lucky as Bulls fans. Lightning may have struck twice.
DaChozen1 wrote:I was wondering how this unicorn garbage started.
