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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#41 » by fudgie » Wed Oct 6, 2010 3:57 pm

The punching a wall thing is pure speculation. I'm going to believe Boozer until there's proof that something different happened.

I'm more worried that this could be a distraction for him this season.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#42 » by Howling Mad » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:01 pm

panthermark wrote:I'm FAR mor worried about Boozer's mental state instead of his broken hand. That is a big distraction.


This can not be underestimated. I'm not sure how to factor Boozer's mental state. Looking at past events; his draft position, the exit out of CLE, being abused on defense in the LA series last year but still fighting back on offense, and now this.

Seems like a guy who feeds of a chip on his shoulder, but this is emotionally personal. A factor completely different from the others.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#43 » by CjayC » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:09 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:So because he got divorced, he punched a wall? Not comprehending.


He could have been in the heat of the moment.

Not smart no matter how you slice it, but its better he take his anger out on a wall than smash her to pieces.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#44 » by DuckIII » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:19 pm

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DuckIII wrote:Accordiong to the Holmes and Rahe stress scale, the only thing more stressful than divorce is the death of a spouse. It ranks above all other deaths (including close family members and best friends), losing your job, etc.

i'm guessing the scale might be somewhat altered for filthy rich pro athletes


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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#45 » by The Big Dog » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:20 pm

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DuckIII wrote:Accordiong to the Holmes and Rahe stress scale, the only thing more stressful than divorce is the death of a spouse. It ranks above all other deaths (including close family members and best friends), losing your job, etc.

i'm guessing the scale might be somewhat altered for filthy rich pro athletes

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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#46 » by kyrv » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:21 pm

panthermark wrote:
At this point, I'm FAR mor worried about Boozer's mental state instead of his broken hand. That is a big distraction. Maybe basketball will help.


Excellent point. More than one pro athlete has had a bad year while going through a divorce. :(

Hopefully as you said he will use basketball as a place to focus his energy and thoughts and do better.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#47 » by dice » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:37 pm

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DuckIII wrote:Accordiong to the Holmes and Rahe stress scale, the only thing more stressful than divorce is the death of a spouse. It ranks above all other deaths (including close family members and best friends), losing your job, etc.

i'm guessing the scale might be somewhat altered for filthy rich pro athletes

Everybody hurts.

sometimes. so hold on

the typical divorce includes life-changing economic factors, which i would assume don't apply to carlos boozer
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#48 » by Scott May » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:53 pm

dice wrote:the typical divorce includes life-changing economic factors, which i would assume don't apply to carlos boozer


While I'm sad for Carlos's family and wish them all the best, I tend to agree with this. Divorce is ruinously expensive for working- and middle-class families and can lead to a complete loss of stability. I'm sure Carlos is going to cough up a big chunk of change, but nothing that will lead to a diminished standard of living.

But, yeah: the hand? The divorce? There's a risk that Year One of the Boozer contract is a punt.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#49 » by panthermark » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:55 pm

dice wrote:
the typical divorce includes life-changing economic factors, which i would assume don't apply to carlos boozer


And the typical divorce probaly does not include losing 10's of millions of dollars.

Boozer's first big contract was a 6 year $68M deal. He just signed a 5 year $75M deal.

How much of that will his future ex get? How much of that did his future ex earn?

No, Boozer won't starve to death...but divorce sucks....and losing that much money sucks when he was the one who made it all.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#50 » by dice » Wed Oct 6, 2010 4:59 pm

panthermark wrote:No, Boozer won't starve to death...but divorce sucks....and losing that much money sucks when he was the one who made it all.

no question. although i should note the he may very well have had a prenup. and if it's true that he was the one who filed, obviously the $ wasn't an overriding factor in his mind
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#51 » by League Circles » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:02 pm

panthermark wrote:
dice wrote:
the typical divorce includes life-changing economic factors, which i would assume don't apply to carlos boozer


And the typical divorce probaly does not include losing 10's of millions of dollars.

Boozer's first big contract was a 6 year $68M deal. He just signed a 5 year $75M deal.

How much of that will his future ex get? How much of that did his future ex earn?

No, Boozer won't starve to death...but divorce sucks....and losing that much money sucks when he was the one who made it all.


but marriage and divorce isn't about what you earn. It's about making a commitment and what that commitment does to your life. boozers wife will get money not because she earned it, but because she made the commitment to marry him. I think thats how it should be.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#52 » by dice » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:04 pm

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panthermark wrote:
dice wrote:
the typical divorce includes life-changing economic factors, which i would assume don't apply to carlos boozer


And the typical divorce probaly does not include losing 10's of millions of dollars.

Boozer's first big contract was a 6 year $68M deal. He just signed a 5 year $75M deal.

How much of that will his future ex get? How much of that did his future ex earn?

No, Boozer won't starve to death...but divorce sucks....and losing that much money sucks when he was the one who made it all.


but marriage and divorce isn't about what you earn. It's about making a commitment and what that commitment does to your life. boozers wife will get money not because she earned it, but because she made the commitment to marry him. I think thats how it should be.

but let's be honest - most people don't give the possibility of divorce enough consideration when they tie the knot
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#53 » by panthermark » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:05 pm

teamCHItown wrote:
but marriage and divorce isn't about what you earn. It's about making a commitment and what that commitment does to your life. boozers wife will get money not because she earned it, but because she made the commitment to marry him. I think thats how it should be.


Yes, that is how it should be......until you are actually going through the divorce. Then all that ish goes out the window...
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#54 » by League Circles » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:11 pm

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teamCHItown wrote:but marriage and divorce isn't about what you earn. It's about making a commitment and what that commitment does to your life. boozers wife will get money not because she earned it, but because she made the commitment to marry him. I think thats how it should be.

but let's be honest - most people don't give the possibility of divorce enough consideration when they tie the knot


True. And I should have been more clear. IMO a man always has to pay to support his ex wife - to pay for her essentials - adequate housing, food and clothing. But IMO he also never has an obligation to give her half just for the sake of it (unless her sustenance takes up exactly half of what he has). I understand the courts disagree with me. Also many ex wives use child support to extract many more times the amount needed to support a child. I don't think the costs of child support should depend upon what the father makes.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#55 » by panthermark » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:11 pm

dice wrote:
panthermark wrote:No, Boozer won't starve to death...but divorce sucks....and losing that much money sucks when he was the one who made it all.

no question. although i should note the he may very well have had a prenup. and if it's true that he was the one who filed, obviously the $ wasn't an overriding factor in his mind


That's true....I hope he did have one. But I'm not sure how Florida laws work. The custody battle could get nasty (ask Wade)... I didn't have to go through that.....but man...writing that big azz check to my ex-wife SUCKED!

However.....once it was all done......I felt like a 20 ton weight was lifted off of me.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#56 » by League Circles » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:12 pm

panthermark wrote:
teamCHItown wrote:
but marriage and divorce isn't about what you earn. It's about making a commitment and what that commitment does to your life. boozers wife will get money not because she earned it, but because she made the commitment to marry him. I think thats how it should be.


Yes, that is how it should be......until you are actually going through the divorce. Then all that ish goes out the window...


No I actually believe that marrying a woman is an agreement to support her for the rest of her life (basic needs) or until she marries another man. Unless she's an adulterer, in which case of course she gets stoned.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#57 » by TeamMan » Wed Oct 6, 2010 5:20 pm

Actually, in a weird kind of way, I'm actually glad that this came out.

At least it makes some kind of sense.

If he'd hit himself with a hammer while driving a nail (or something) then that would have been stupid.

Richard Prior, for instance, got out his Magnum pistol and shot out the tires on his wife's car when he was going through the early stages of divorce!

And, of course, there are plenty of case histories where the person with the pistol (both male and female) didn't stop with the car.

So I totally agree with what DuckIII said earlier, punching a wall is one of the least stupid things that a person can do!
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#58 » by ATRAIN53 » Wed Oct 6, 2010 6:06 pm

if you read up and research his wife/personal life a bit the story really comes into focus.

this is a real tear jerker-
http://www.slcdunk.com/2008/10/28/64845 ... arless-lov

so the fact he has a very ill child, 2 more younger kids and a wife that felt isolated from her husband due to his profession-

i can see why the local media is not scrutinizing this as deeply as we are. there's no doubt the bag tripping story is BS - but i think they are trying to afford him so privacy. divorice, sick kid, new team, dumb self inflicted injury.....why pile on.


i sympathize with the guy and can see why he doesn't want to get into the personal details.
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#59 » by panthermark » Wed Oct 6, 2010 6:18 pm

ATRAIN53 wrote:if you read up and research his wife/personal life a bit the story really comes into focus.

this is a real tear jerker-
http://www.slcdunk.com/2008/10/28/64845 ... arless-lov

so the fact he has a very ill child, 2 more younger kids and a wife that felt isolated from her husband due to his profession-

i can see why the local media is not scrutinizing this as deeply as we are. there's no doubt the bag tripping story is BS - but i think they are trying to afford him so privacy. divorice, sick kid, new team, dumb self inflicted injury.....why pile on.


i sympathize with the guy and can see why he doesn't want to get into the personal details.
it'll all come out later on - like hopefully in the tell-all book The 2011-2014 Chicago Bulls NBA Championship story of the 2nd Dynasty. :thumbsup:

Agreed,
Some where wondering "why" it mattered.
Now we know.
"If" this is how he broke his hand....it all makes sense.....and he goes from "Boozer you injury prone, money stealing, stupid SOB!....how do you break that particular bone by tripping over a bag?!?"...to "Get well soon, Booz...we will respect your privacy....hope it all works out for the better".
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Re: Boozer files for divorce 

Post#60 » by half 'n' half » Wed Oct 6, 2010 7:34 pm

TheCly wrote:I don't care when they started proceedings or how they spin this. That's a boxer fracture, by definition.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/boxers_f ... cle_em.htm

I know, because I broke mine punching a german guy in the head years ago when he grabbed my wife at a party. Of course, I did tell the doctor I fell too. :)


this is indeed a boxer's fracture but that is only the name for it and punching something is the classic mechanism of injury but that does not mean it the ONLY mechanism of injury. I had a patient today who has a boxer's fracture but her explanation was such that her fall makes total sense, actually much more sense than punching a wall given her size and strength. I don't know the details of boozer's injury, but i think it is unfair to immediately assume that he's lying just cuz you looked up something on the internet and injured yourself in the classic manner. sure it's suspicious, but hardly conclusive.

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