OT: Sticky Situation

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

update:

I'll be home for Easter inshallah (God willing), mom said if I keep perfect from March 24 attendance until April 12 (second Saturday).

Alhumdulilah

[MalikJoakim24]

Woah dude get the eff out of there. Do what you want, don't waste precious years of your life being miserable. You can still pursue your career without having to go through this

I'm trying but now I have a huge problemo:
>local guardians, well ex guardians (dad said they aren't my guardians anymore /don't contact them) have my passport and won't give it back to me due to my parents.
>parents said if I call the us embassy and tell them about this & them making me send an email to the embassy about ny welfare then they'll show my old phone that has text messages about me smoking grass (never sold).

ps- any lawyers on here?

[League Circles]

I'm trying but now I have a huge problemo:
>local guardians, well ex guardians (dad said they aren't my guardians anymore /don't contact them) have my passport and won't give it back to me due to my parents.
>parents said if I call the us embassy and tell them about this & them making me send an email to the embassy about ny welfare then they'll show my old phone that has text messages about me smoking grass (never sold).

ps- any lawyers on here?

I'd highly recommend just going to the US Embassy and getting a new passport. Are you over 18 years of age? What is the nature of this guardianship?

I wouldn't worry at all about a text message on your phone that says you smoked grass, at least not with regards to the US Embassy. They don't care. What are they gonna do arrest you because your parents are trying to rat you out based on what I'd presume is inconclusive evidence that you did something that's not even a crime in parts of the US now?

Brother, I'm sorry to say this, but it seems like your parents are just as much to blame as the school staff. Just to be clear, you want to leave an oppressive situation, and you are an adult US Citizen, and your parents' response is to threaten you that that will attempt to get you in trouble with the law because you may have smoked herb at some point in the past?

My friend lost his passport in Munich, went to Amsterdam with me without it without problem, went to the US Embassy and got a new one in about 2 hours max. I'm not sure what else he had in terms of ID. Please tell me you have your driver's license or some other US form of ID with you. Don't ever give your passport to someone else again. That's incredibly **** up that someone is holding your passport hostage. I'm very confident that the US Embassy staff will help you out. When you get out and make it back to the US, you will be just fine.

[bledredwine]

Wow, no idea how I just read this post now for the first time.

Hey bud, remember... no matter what situation you are in life, it can change with at the drop of a hat.

We all go through rough times, but you'd be blown away with what a change in scenario will do. Life is a beautiful things, vague but true. Last year I was miserable in Paris France due to the situation living with my girlfriend at the time. I moved to Chicago and I'm happy as can be.

- When you get a speeding ticket, you're down for a moment, but in a year, it won't even matter. This is the same story with what you're going through... it's just a prolonged speeding ticket. You can't forget about the other side and everything that awaits you. In the meantime, try to find as much as you can do to enjoy it there without risking yourself. I know, I lived in Cleveland challenges, any mental stimulation

Everything is situational. Some day, it'll just be a story and life experience that you tell your grandkids.
Who knows, maybe next year you'll meet the love of your life. I've learned never to doubt because different things happen and all it takes is one small moment to change it all.

[Eduardo]

Woah dude get the eff out of there. Do what you want, don't waste precious years of your life being miserable. You can still pursue your career without having to go through this

I'm trying but now I have a huge problemo:
>local guardians, well ex guardians (dad said they aren't my guardians anymore /don't contact them) have my passport and won't give it back to me due to my parents.
>parents said if I call the us embassy and tell them about this & them making me send an email to the embassy about ny welfare then they'll show my old phone that has text messages about me smoking grass (never sold).

ps- any lawyers on here?

wtf is wrong with your parents? and i don't think them showing the embassy a text about you admitting to smoking weed would do ****. if this situation is even real (not sure what i believe), then contact the freaking embassy already.

[dumbell78]

Dude just run to the US embassy, Im not kidding.

Your parents....wow.

[TheSuzerain]

Don't take offense, but I'd probably bail on your family after you get home.

Hit them up for an airplane ticket on Easter, and then just leave.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Woah dude get the eff out of there. Do what you want, don't waste precious years of your life being miserable. You can still pursue your career without having to go through this

I'm trying but now I have a huge problemo:
>local guardians, well ex guardians (dad said they aren't my guardians anymore /don't contact them) have my passport and won't give it back to me due to my parents.
>parents said if I call the us embassy and tell them about this & them making me send an email to the embassy about ny welfare then they'll show my old phone that has text messages about me smoking grass (never sold).

ps- any lawyers on here?

Dude....you'll be fine. I know culturally and religiously it is important to have a good connection to your parents, particularly your mother...but fend for yourself and do what makes you happy right now. Your parents will get over it once they realize you're an adult. I know a lot of people, and even myself to a lesser extent who have experienced "traditional, old school" type parenting. For a lack of a better term, grab your balls and man up. Everything will be okay.

[kyrv]

This is wild. If I just saw this on the web I'd probably wonder if the person was making it up.

Not sure your age, someone asked, are you 18?

1) I would contact the police, most likely your passport is your property and they can't steal it/keep it from you.

2) Above may depend on guardian status. Does your dad saying he's not your guardian make him legally not your guardian? I don't see how. Was he ever "legally" and "officially" your guardian? If not, again, he is in possession of your personal property, contact the police. If he is your legal guardian, can he keep your passport from you legally? Seems unlikely.

3) As others mentioned, if you must, go to the embassy and file a form to get a replacement. You may want to ask them first, before the police, as they may be able to advise you.

4) I put this one last, but do you have access to advice from a local attorney there, I'm assuming no or you would do it. If not, decide on embassy or police first. Just my opinion, first order of business is getting my passport back (or a replacement).

Wacky story man best of luck.

[MalikJoakim24]

I'd highly recommend just going to the US Embassy and getting a new passport. Are you over 18 years of age? What is the nature of this guardianship?
Brother, I'm sorry to say this, but it seems like your parents are just as much to blame as the school staff. Just to be clear, you want to leave an oppressive situation, and you are an adult US Citizen, and your parents' response is to threaten you that that will attempt to get you in trouble with the law because you may have smoked herb at some point in the past?

Yes, I am 19... I have my driver's license always. I'm worried because federally the herb is still illegal and I don't know how many texts they still have... I don't want to go to prison because they threatened that they will send the phone in if I talk.

Nature of the guardianship is that they are my dad's old school friend but now dad said they are not my guardians.

I messaged them and they said they will give the passports when I told thr I will call the us embassy...

wtf is wrong with your parents? and i don't think them showing the embassy a text about you admitting to smoking weed would do ****. if this situation is even real (not sure what i believe), then contact the freaking embassy already.

I messaged my ex legal guardians here and told then to give the passports and they said no need to talk to the embassy, they will give it tomorrow.

Dude just run to the US embassy, Im not kidding.

Your parents....wow.

Running is not an option, well until April 12th(once a month we can leave) because I won't get past the security.

Don't take offense, but I'd probably bail on your family after you get home.

Hit them up for an airplane ticket on Easter, and then just leave.

I told them I just want my passports but my pops is like I will only give it to you on April 12.

This is wild. If I just saw this on the web I'd probably wonder if the person was making it up.

Not sure your age, someone asked, are you 18?

Yes, 19.

2) Above may depend on guardian status. Does your dad saying he's not your guardian make him legally not your guardian? I don't see how. Was he ever "legally" and "officially" your guardian? If not, again, he is in possession of your personal property, contact the police. If he is your legal guardian, can he keep your passport from you legally? Seems unlikely.

He's my guardian however my dads old schopl friend is my local guardian well make that ex guardian now.

[Keller61]

Running is not an option, well until April 12th(once a month we can leave) because I won't get past the security.

I don't know what country you're in, but I would think that in any free country, an educational institution doesn't have the authority to forcefully stop you from leaving.

If you are not in a free country, then perhaps it's best to just comply until you can leave safely. April 12th is less than 2 weeks away, after all.

[Space Indaver]

What kind of school has security to stop students getting out at the request of their parents?

You should leave as soon as it's safe to do so, IMO. Your parents are horrid people. And this is just my assumption, but there's religion controlling a lot of this, right? Your parents' decisions, and the rules of the country/school you're in?

GET. OUT.

[MalikJoakim24]

double post.

[MalikJoakim24]

Running is not an option, well until April 12th(once a month we can leave) because I won't get past the security.

I don't know what country you're in, but I would think that in any free country, an educational institution doesn't have the authority to forcefully stop you from leaving.

If you are not in a free country, then perhaps it's best to just comply until you can leave safely. April 12th is less than 2 weeks away, after all.

Problem is that the institution won't let me. My only option now is to leave April 12 and run straight to the embassy.

What kind of school has security to stop students getting out at the request of their parents?

You should leave as soon as it's safe to do so, IMO. Your parents are horrid people. And this is just my assumption, but there's religion controlling a lot of this, right? Your parents' decisions, and the rules of the country/school you're in?

GET. OUT.

Even if the parents ask, the institution won't allow people to leave unless it's a medical emergency but the institution has a hospital onsite... I wish I could take pictures but there's cameras everywhere.

Yeah grandparents called, threatened me saying I dont have the right to come back to the us apparently and to start a barber shop here... I said they are they are keeping me hostage, they said no but they have people to kidnap me, they just have to say the word...

How can I convince the US embassy I'm telling the
truth? My parents threatened me to tell the the US embassy that I am fine here and to retract my statement of being suicidal. The embassy will think I'm crazy or lying to them now.
I have the phone calls recorded but unsure of the legality, I told them its being recorded.

[kyrv]

Running is not an option, well until April 12th(once a month we can leave) because I won't get past the security.

I don't know what country you're in, but I would think that in any free country, an educational institution doesn't have the authority to forcefully stop you from leaving.

If you are not in a free country, then perhaps it's best to just comply until you can leave safely. April 12th is less than 2 weeks away, after all.

Problem is that the institution won't let me. My only option now is to leave April 12 and run straight to the embassy.

What kind of school has security to stop students getting out at the request of their parents?

You should leave as soon as it's safe to do so, IMO. Your parents are horrid people. And this is just my assumption, but there's religion controlling a lot of this, right? Your parents' decisions, and the rules of the country/school you're in?

GET. OUT.

Even if the parents ask, the institution won't allow people to leave unless it's a medical emergency but the institution has a hospital onsite... I wish I could take pictures but there's cameras everywhere.

Yeah grandparents called, threatened me saying I dont have the right to come back to the us apparently and to start a barber shop here... I said they are they are keeping me hostage, they said no but they have people to kidnap me, they just have to say the word...

How can I convince the US embassy I'm telling the
truth? My parents threatened me to tell the the US embassy that I am fine here and to retract my statement of being suicidal. The embassy will think I'm crazy or lying to them now.
I have the phone calls recorded but unsure of the legality, I told them its being recorded.

If you are 19 and have your license you should be okay. That is great.

I think I would go to the embassy, they can tell you if they will issue a new one or you should go to the police.

You are being held prisoner there. Doesn't mean you can't overcome it, but yikes.

The embassy may be familiar with the school. I really think they are the best place to grant a new one or advise you what to do.

Best of luck man.

[League Circles]

Yeah grandparents called, threatened me saying I dont have the right to come back to the us apparently and to start a barber shop here... I said they are they are keeping me hostage, they said no but they have people to kidnap me, they just have to say the word...

Your grandparents are violent criminals and should be in jail. When you get out, if they are American, you should report them to the authorities.

How can I convince the US embassy I'm telling the
truth? My parents threatened me to tell the the US embassy that I am fine here and to retract my statement of being suicidal. The embassy will think I'm crazy or lying to them now.
I have the phone calls recorded but unsure of the legality, I told them its being recorded.

You don't need to convince the Embassy of anything such as a state of mind. All you have to do is tell them that you need a new passport because your "guardians" (it's unclear to me if that has any legal meaning whatsoever) won't give it to you. The Embassy is there to help YOU. If the guardians don't give you the passport, the Embassy will. If they do give you the passport, leave ASAP.

I would strongly suggest not going to the police wherever you are. That is likely to complicate and possibly make your situation much more difficult.

All I can say is that I'm sorry for your difficulties. Hopefully your family will come around in time, because as of now they are frankly just evil. Your parents and your grandparents for threatening you. You are an adult U.S. citizen and as such, you can do mostly whatever the **** you want. If your parents cut you off financially, you're in the same position as countless other 19 year olds. You can easily still go to a good college with stafford loans.

But I'd bet that once you're out of that situation and back in the U.S., your parents will change their tone quite a bit. It's highly likely that your dad is panicking and making a major mistake due almost entirely to how he thinks it will make the family look if you leave. I'm familiar with this dynamic. A lot of Americans can't understand, but my wife is a foreigner and I understand what it's like for people who are attached to cultures where everyone is always judging each other and giving a **** about what everyone does. What I'm saying is that once the "damage" is done to your family's reputation by you leaving, your dad has nothing to be scared of anymore and might treat you how he he should have all along.

Stay up brother.

[kyrv]

Yeah grandparents called, threatened me saying I dont have the right to come back to the us apparently and to start a barber shop here... I said they are they are keeping me hostage, they said no but they have people to kidnap me, they just have to say the word...

Your grandparents are violent criminals and should be in jail. When you get out, if they are American, you should report them to the authorities.

How can I convince the US embassy I'm telling the
truth? My parents threatened me to tell the the US embassy that I am fine here and to retract my statement of being suicidal. The embassy will think I'm crazy or lying to them now.
I have the phone calls recorded but unsure of the legality, I told them its being recorded.

You don't need to convince the Embassy of anything such as a state of mind. All you have to do is tell them that you need a new passport because your "guardians" (it's unclear to me if that has any legal meaning whatsoever) won't give it to you. The Embassy is there to help YOU. If the guardians don't give you the passport, the Embassy will. If they do give you the passport, leave ASAP.

I would strongly suggest not going to the police wherever you are. That is likely to complicate and possibly make your situation much more difficult.

All I can say is that I'm sorry for your difficulties. Hopefully your family will come around in time, because as of now they are frankly just evil. Your parents and your grandparents for threatening you. You are an adult U.S. citizen and as such, you can do mostly whatever the **** you want. If your parents cut you off financially, you're in the same position as countless other 19 year olds. You can easily still go to a good college with stafford loans.

But I'd bet that once you're out of that situation and back in the U.S., your parents will change their tone quite a bit. It's highly likely that your dad is panicking and making a major mistake due almost entirely to how he thinks it will make the family look if you leave. I'm familiar with this dynamic. A lot of Americans can't understand, but my wife is a foreigner and I understand what it's like for people who are attached to cultures where everyone is always judging each other and giving a **** about what everyone does. What I'm saying is that once the "damage" is done to your family's reputation by you leaving, your dad has nothing to be scared of anymore and might treat you how he he should have all along.

Stay up brother.

Yep agreed on all of this. I would, just from what I know, go to the embassy first, if they will issue a passport, no need to involve the police.

[TheSuzerain]

So is it Uzbekistan or Uruguay?

[League Circles]

So is it Uzbekistan or Uruguay?

I was thinking probably Uzbekistan or United Arab Emirates. Could also be Uman (Oman) or Uganda.

[MalikJoakim24]

Your grandparents are violent criminals and should be in jail. When you get out, if they are American, you should report them to the authorities.

It's recorded but I dont know the legality of recording.

You don't need to convince the Embassy of anything such as a state of mind. All you have to do is tell them that you need a new passport because your "guardians" (it's unclear to me if that has any legal meaning whatsoever) won't give it to you. The Embassy is there to help YOU. If the guardians don't give you the passport, the Embassy will. If they do give you the passport, leave ASAP.

Guardians just said they are giving it to my grandfather, the one who threatened me and hes coming April 9.

I told them to give it to me or to my aunt (another fam friend) whos the principal here and they said if they are free they will give.

also this aunt said today that she won't let me leave the institution

All I can say is that I'm sorry for your difficulties. Hopefully your family will come around in time, because as of now they are frankly just evil. Your parents and your grandparents for threatening you. You are an adult U.S. citizen and as such, you can do mostly whatever the **** you want. If your parents cut you off financially, you're in the same position as countless other 19 year olds. You can easily still go to a good college with stafford loans.

I have no means for a plane ticket and if the embassy pays, I have no place to stay in us... that's why I'm worried.

also im scared of the weed texts in the old phone, I don't want to go to jail. the old phone was registered under my moms name and she paid for the service. they took the phone fron me when i was 18 though.