OT: Terrorist attacks in Paris

YettiBull · Post #41 » by **YettiBull** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:32 am

Never said they are in cahoots. Iran is a country that they could acquire a weapon from for the right price. That is all. If you think that couldn't happen, you aren't smart.

TheSuzerain wrote:
YettiBull wrote:They could acquire the weapons from Iran. Don't be naive.

Says the guy acting like Iran is in cahoots with Sunni extremists. You are clearly talking out your ass.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #42 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:34 am

YettiBull wrote:They could acquire the weapons from Iran. Don't be naive.

Maybe if Iran builds a nuke then ISIS or Al-Queda somehow steals it, but before they even think about stealing it Iran would be bombed to smithereens for having a nuke by the US and allies according to the agreement.

Sunni terrorists consider Shia Muslims infidels like christians and Jews, Iran wont give nukes to sunni terrorists who would use it on them.

Forgot Pakistan is another dangerous one because its risk to become unstable, low risk but a risk

AKfanatic · Post #43 » by **AKfanatic** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:39 am

YettiBull wrote:Never said they are in cahoots. Iran is a country that they could acquire a weapon from for the right price. That is all. If you think that couldn't happen, you aren't smart.

TheSuzerain wrote:
YettiBull wrote:They could acquire the weapons from Iran. Don't be naive.

Says the guy acting like Iran is in cahoots with Sunni extremists. You are clearly talking out your ass.

edit: wasn't adding anything worthy of such a tragic day. Sorry fellas.

johnnyvann840 · Post #44 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:40 am

pylb, one of our regular posters here, I think is in Paris. Hey man, let us know you're OK, brother.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #45 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:46 am

I had a feeling the attacks were coming to Europe, its becoming a terrible problem over there and refugee crisis does not make it any better. Im also expecting a HUGE backlash from Europeans against muslims in their country, there already was but this is going to get much uglier. Angry europeans are also scary

dumbell78 · Post #46 » by **dumbell78** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:56 am

DarthDiggler69 wrote:I had a feeling the attacks were coming to Europe, its becoming a terrible problem over there and refugee crisis does not make it any better. Im also expecting a HUGE backlash from Europeans against muslims in their country, there already was but this is going to get much uglier. Angry europeans are also scary

Europe has been naive for many many years with its radical Islamic problem on its lands. Even the latest pledge from chancellor Merkel (shes now moonwalk'd from it after some backlash) was a perfect example. This has to be dealt with swiftly and needs immense RESOLVE and GUTS from the Europeans. I don't think they have it TBH. They are so afraid to come off as politically incorrect and intolerant that they are sadly dying for it.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #47 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:10 am

dumbell78 wrote:
DarthDiggler69 wrote:I had a feeling the attacks were coming to Europe, its becoming a terrible problem over there and refugee crisis does not make it any better. Im also expecting a HUGE backlash from Europeans against muslims in their country, there already was but this is going to get much uglier. Angry europeans are also scary

Europe has been naive for many many years with its radical Islamic problem on its lands. Even the latest pledge from chancellor Merkel (shes now moonwalk'd from it after some backlash) was a perfect example. This has to be dealt with swiftly and needs immense RESOLVE and GUTS from the Europeans. I don't think they have it TBH. They are so afraid to come off as politically incorrect and intolerant that they are sadly dying for it.

Agreed, their 'political correctness' is killing them.

Post #48 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:54 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:pylb, one of our regular posters here, I think is in Paris. Hey man, let us know you're OK, brother.

Yeah, hopefully he's okay.

Badbeats · Post #49 » by **Badbeats** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:00 am

Just horrible tragedy. My heart goes out to all the victims and families.

johnnyvann840 · Post #50 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:54 am

RedBulls83 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:pylb, one of our regular posters here, I think is in Paris. Hey man, let us know you're OK, brother.

Yeah, hopefully he's okay.

Yeah. I also think pylb might be a concert pianist.

TimRobbins · Post #51 » by **TimRobbins** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:59 am

An incident where 150 innocent people lose their lives is obviously a great tragedy. Still, France has had these types of Muslim terrorist shootings for decades and they have done absolutely nothing about it. So what has changed tonight?

I hope the French aren't dumb enough to start some mindless and useless bombing campaign in the ME (and worse-off drag the US in). The physical fighters of ISIS are not the problem. It's the idea and the solution is not further engagement in the ME, it's complete DISENGAGEMENT. Let them fight it out and sort it out on their own. If they want to behead and blow up each other, then it's their problem. The refugees caused by their wars should be resettled within the ME (including Turkey). There is no shortage of land or resources in the ME and Turkey and they can absorb all the Muslim refugees from their wars.

Why is the solution always further engagement and an attempt to force your own set of values on a population which doesn't want it? Why is the solution always to force "PEACE" which has no chance of lasting a only causes further and bigger problems?

Stop meddling and stop talking about the Middle-East and its problems. Let the Arabs sort out their own wars. It's really non of our business.

Madhouse · Post #52 » by **Madhouse** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:47 am

Those europeans going to the ME and then coming back are the biggest problem and there were almost 200 in France alone who came back this year from Syria. This problem needs to be solved as soon as possible or more attacks are coming. The scary thing about this attack in Paris was that they had the intention to bomb the whole stadium.

pylb · Post #53 » by **pylb** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:33 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:
RedBulls83 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:pylb, one of our regular posters here, I think is in Paris. Hey man, let us know you're OK, brother.

Yeah, hopefully he's okay.

Yeah. I also think pylb might be a concert pianist.

Hey guys, I'm perfectly fine (and not a concert pianist at all, I work on computer stuff).

johnnyvann840 · Post #54 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:51 am

pylb wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
RedBulls83 wrote:Yeah, hopefully he's okay.

Yeah. I also think pylb might be a concert pianist.

Hey guys, I'm perfectly fine (and not a concert pianist at all, I work on computer stuff).

Great to hear. I can't remember who the pianist is that posts here. Somebody in Europe, though., I think. Glad to hear you are safe.

Post #55 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:57 am

pylb wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
RedBulls83 wrote:Yeah, hopefully he's okay.

Yeah. I also think pylb might be a concert pianist.

Hey guys, I'm perfectly fine (and not a concert pianist at all, I work on computer stuff).

Good to hear.

DaddyCool19 · Post #56 » by **DaddyCool19** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:00 am

Once USA invaded the middle east and took down the dictators like Saddam (and later Gaddafi and next is Assad) **** went down hill really fast. Saddam was like the lesser evil as he kept the terrorists under control and keep them down so they can't do anything.

Bombing in Turkey, Beslan School Massacre, Charlie Hebdo, Paris attacks and a plane bombing. There are people who don't want democracy (I'm a muslim and i have relatives in turkey who would have no problem with the sharia) and will never accept it. Why force it down their throat while people getting killed on both sides in the process. Leave them their alone and let them handle their **** on their own. That way they can't hate you and have no reason to attack the western world. Let them fight each other.

Especially the borders here are a joke. You can go to syria through turkey and come back with a long ass beard and still travel around, visit islamistic mosques and no one really cares.

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #57 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:02 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:I am slowly and sadly coming to the point where I have to evolve on my position towards Islam.

Mainstream Islam needs to reclaim its place back and take away ANY and ALL power that the crazies have. This isnt a splinter group anymore - this is a serious threat to a large region of the world, if not the entire world.

yes.. it could emerge really to world war 3

DarthDiggler69 · Post #58 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:12 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:Once USA invaded the middle east and took down the dictators like Saddam (and later Gaddafi and next is Assad) **** went down hill really fast. Saddam was like the lesser evil as he kept the terrorists under control and keep them down so they can't do anything.

Bombing in Turkey, Beslan School Massacre, Charlie Hebdo, Paris attacks and a plane bombing. There are people who don't want democracy (I'm a muslim and i have relatives in turkey who would have no problem with the sharia) and will never accept it. Why force it down their throat while people getting killed on both sides in the process. Leave them their alone and let them handle their **** on their own. That way they can't hate you and have no reason to attack the western world. Let them fight each other.

Especially the borders here are a joke. You can go to syria through turkey and come back with a long ass beard and still travel around, visit islamistic mosques and no one really cares.

If everyone left them alone they will come to us, for 1400 years they been trying to conquer the world over and over and over and its commanded they do it by terror and subduing everyone, the dictators only slowed them down.

I thought we had them where we wanted them by containing them in the middle east and letting then fight each other, its only when the refugee crisis and other nations jumped in on their own it seemed to intensify things

DarthDiggler69 · Post #59 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:30 pm

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DarthDiggler69 · Post #60 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:40 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:I am slowly and sadly coming to the point where I have to evolve on my position towards Islam.

Mainstream Islam needs to reclaim its place back and take away ANY and ALL power that the crazies have. This isnt a splinter group anymore - this is a serious threat to a large region of the world, if not the entire world.

Problem is the 'moderate' or 'mainstream' muslims can't deny the violent teachings against non-believers their books(many of them don't even know its there or turn a blind eye) so they cannot speak out against it without rejecting some of their commands. What they can do is focus on the good stuff but problems arise when groups like ISIS highlight the bad teachings and bring it all down.

Another problem is they cannot leave the religion (death penalty) and they cannot criticize whats written.