PG: Screwed the pooch

BahamaBull · Post #41 » by **BahamaBull** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:12 am

TheAznDoughBoy wrote:Lol homeboi Jimmy got ZERO clutch gene in him. Enjoy your franchise player Bulls!

Kings fan

Hangtime84 · Post #42 » by **Hangtime84** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:13 am

nomorezorro wrote:mo speights outscored our entire bench and people are defending the decision to leave bobby portis in because lopez would have been a bad defensive matchup

That has more to say about our bench being young and inconsistent than anything. If our bench played semi better we'd won that game. MCW and Doug out hurts us.

It's long season though I have hope they will figure it out

Post #43 » by **pduh01** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:13 am

When Portis struggle u got to adjust right on the fly and Fred didn't do such that. Yes Lopez can't guard stretch four/fives and not mobile but I take my chance at least Lopez may contribute some other areas while Portis who continue to struggle in all aspect of this game.

I even take a risk and play small do something when a certain thing doesn't work make a adjustment quickly.

MrSparkle · Post #44 » by **MrSparkle** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:13 am

TheAznDoughBoy wrote:Lol homeboi Jimmy got ZERO clutch gene in him. Enjoy your franchise player Bulls!

The Azn Dough Boy is back.

Red Larrivee · Post #45 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:13 am

GimmeDat wrote:I don't blame Fred for playing Bobby. You can definitely argue against it, but Lopez guarding a stretch 5 would've been a problem.

Thank you. Were people not paying attention the amount of PNR's they were running at the top? There's no way you can put Lopez in that with a big looking to shoot or put the ball on the floor.

BeatDaCavs420 · Post #46 » by **BeatDaCavs420** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:13 am

TheAznDoughBoy wrote:Lol homeboi Jimmy got ZERO clutch gene in him. Enjoy your franchise player Bulls!

King fan and then Rose in the avatar

it all makes sense

Get lost

Bulls03 · Post #47 » by **Bulls03** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

mmmmmbeeer wrote:
Payt10 wrote:A little glimpse into what bad coaching can do for you in close game situations. Some crucial rebounds missed in crunch time with Portis in the game over Lopez. This was a terrible loss. I don't really care who you're playing, but you shouldn't lose games when you establish a 19 point lead.

This **** isn't on Fred.

Explain and do not say it's because Lopez couldn't guard speights. That argument has no weight to it at all because speights scored 20 on the guys who were supposedly able to defend the 3.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #48 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

TheAznDoughBoy wrote:Lol homeboi Jimmy got ZERO clutch gene in him. Enjoy your franchise player Bulls!

You're a Kings fan, stfu.

TheSuzerain · Post #49 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

Red Larrivee wrote:It really is amazing the amount of fans who would've played our slowest big man against the Clippers most mobile front-court combination.

Mo Speights is not mobile. He's a stationary shooter.

And putting in the right lineup X's and O's wise doesn't work when you're replacing a competent NBA player (Lopez) with a terrible one (Portis).

nomorezorro · Post #50 » by **nomorezorro** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

i dunno how you watch the first 12 games of this season and don't recognize lopez's significant value as an offensive player for this team

our guards ignore bobby when he's wide open. you shouldn't torpedo your offense out of fear that an inability to guard mo speights will lose the game for you, especially when mo speights is already carving the defense up

mmmmmbeeer · Post #51 » by **mmmmmbeeer** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

TheAznDoughBoy wrote:Lol homeboi Jimmy got ZERO clutch gene in him. Enjoy your franchise player Bulls!

I wish y'all had a clutch player....if ya did, we might actually get your first this season.

Proven_Winner · Post #52 » by **Proven_Winner** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 am

GimmeDat wrote:I don't blame Fred for playing Bobby. You can definitely argue against it, but Lopez guarding a stretch 5 would've been a problem.

I don't think the problem was solely playing but just the lack of trying something different. Bobby was getting cooked and on the other end couldn't even get a board.

Lopez might have gotten cooked too but at least we'd try it out.

Bulls03 · Post #53 » by **Bulls03** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I don't blame Fred for playing Bobby. You can definitely argue against it, but Lopez guarding a stretch 5 would've been a problem.

Thank you. Were people not paying attention the amount of PNR's they were running at the top? There's no way you can put Lopez in that with a big looking to shoot or put the ball on the floor.

Speights had 16 and crucial offensive rebounds. This is no argument

Polynice4Pippen · Post #54 » by **Polynice4Pippen** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 am

Bulls03 wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:mo speights outscored our entire bench and people are defending the decision to leave bobby portis in because lopez would have been a bad defensive matchup

Name one shot Speights got off Portis that he wouldn't have gotten on Lopez? Come on now.

The offensive rebound and put back early in the quarter for sure. Whether he would have or not Lopez should've for sure been on the floor. If Bobby and Niko aren't defending him what's the difference? Bobby did nothing on offense and Mo wouldn't have been able to stop Lopez.

Yes, Lopez gets that rebound. But he also gives Speights a few more open looks because he can't move his feet in space. Perhaps Lopez could have been on Blake, but I think Fred wanted Taj on Blake. And putting Lopez on Speights at the 3 point line is just ridiculous. Taj, Niko and Bobby are your only options for Speights.

R3AL1TY · Post #55 » by **R3AL1TY** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 am

The Bulls' bench didn't score well to sustain the lead. The Bulls gave up wide open 3s in the end too.

Chi town · Post #56 » by **Chi town** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 am

Red Larrivee wrote:It really is amazing the amount of fans who would've played our slowest big man against the Clippers most mobile front-court combination.

Lopez would have done better than Portis.

Right gameplan from Fred but poor execution. If you are getting toasted. Switch it up earlier.

I would have played Canaan, Grant, Wade Jimmy Taj

Post #57 » by **RedBulls23** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:16 am

Rerisen wrote:Well learning experience in how to close. Clippers have been together way longer and it shows.

If the Bulls ever get it together long enough to try and make some noise, they would probably need to upgrade the bench bigs.

Fred needs to just have a short leash on Portis.

Honestly, might just be better off going with Taj and Lopez for 35 mins each, Niko for 20-26 and Bobby can get 0-6.

Bulls03 · Post #58 » by **Bulls03** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:16 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Bulls03 wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Name one shot Speights got off Portis that he wouldn't have gotten on Lopez? Come on now.

The offensive rebound and put back early in the quarter for sure. Whether he would have or not Lopez should've for sure been on the floor. If Bobby and Niko aren't defending him what's the difference? Bobby did nothing on offense and Mo wouldn't have been able to stop Lopez.

Yes, Lopez gets that rebound. But he also gives Speights a few more open looks because he can't move his feet in space. Perhaps Lopez could have been on Blake, but I think Fred wanted Taj on Blake. And putting Lopez on Speights at the 3 point line is just ridiculous. Taj, Niko and Bobby are your only options for Speights.

I'm not buying it. If anything Lopez would've stepped out and made Speights put it on the floor which would've led to good things for us.

BahamaBull · Post #59 » by **BahamaBull** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:16 am

One issue we must address asap...How to defend stretch 4s...Lakers have none of that so we are good tomorrow...But I wonder what are we going to do when we play Houston with a guy like Ryan Anderson? Are we going to ride Bobby Portis the entire game?? If so, let me know so I can make other plans.

Chi town · Post #60 » by **Chi town** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:16 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Bulls03 wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Name one shot Speights got off Portis that he wouldn't have gotten on Lopez? Come on now.

The offensive rebound and put back early in the quarter for sure. Whether he would have or not Lopez should've for sure been on the floor. If Bobby and Niko aren't defending him what's the difference? Bobby did nothing on offense and Mo wouldn't have been able to stop Lopez.

Yes, Lopez gets that rebound. But he also gives Speights a few more open looks because he can't move his feet in space. Perhaps Lopez could have been on Blake, but I think Fred wanted Taj on Blake. And putting Lopez on Speights at the 3 point line is just ridiculous. Taj, Niko and Bobby are your only options for Speights.

Nope. You put Jimmy on him.