Jimmy Butler Trade - Why and Ideas

[realEAST]

I would do JB for Sacramento 5 and 10.
I would do it for Philly #3. (or Boston or LA but I don't think those are available)
I would do Phoenix #4 plus a future protected first

The only one I think is realistic is Philly. You might actually be able to screw Bryan Colangelo over as he is going to be under some pressure to deliver results. Jimmy + Simmons + Embiid + filler is a playoff team.

Well wouldn't actually call trading Jimmy for only #3 screwing anybody.
But I see 76-ers as only team willing to trade their 2017 pick for Jimmy, it doesn't make sense for others imo.
(Lakers to some degree, as they prepare for 2018 FA and George, and since they have to give up 2018 pick. I like the deal proposed in the article. If Lakers got #3 it would be all more probable imo.)

[MrSparkle]

I would do JB for Sacramento 5 and 10.
I would do it for Philly #3. (or Boston or LA but I don't think those are available)
I would do Phoenix #4 plus a future protected first

The only one I think is realistic is Philly. You might actually be able to screw Bryan Colangelo over as he is going to be under some pressure to deliver results. Jimmy + Simmons + Embiid + filler is a playoff team.

Well wouldn't actually call trading Jimmy for only #3 screwing anybody.
But I see 76-ers as only team willing to trade their 2017 pick for Jimmy, it doesn't make sense for others imo.
(Lakers to some degree, as they prepare for 2018 FA and George, and since they have to give up 2018 pick. I like the deal proposed in the article. If Lakers got #3 it would be all more probable imo.)

I know, right?

"Take that you clowns! Your new $20m salary, 25.1 PER piece of trash will screw you!"

[DuckIII]

Take the best offer, get bad, start over.

[TheStig]

I would do JB for Sacramento 5 and 10.
I would do it for Philly #3. (or Boston or LA but I don't think those are available)
I would do Phoenix #4 plus a future protected first

The only one I think is realistic is Philly. You might actually be able to screw Bryan Colangelo over as he is going to be under some pressure to deliver results. Jimmy + Simmons + Embiid + filler is a playoff team.

I think Philly jumps on that in a heartbeat, but I also think the Bulls can do a bit better than that for Butler.

Philly sends...
Gerald Henderson (purely for salary purposes),
Luwawu,
2017 #3,
2018 LAL 1st,
2018 PHI 1st or the rights to Furkan Korkmaz

I love the enthusiasm but your not getting their most recent 1st and 3 other 1sts for him. 2 of which are top 5 picks.

[gardenofsound]

I would do JB for Sacramento 5 and 10.
I would do it for Philly #3. (or Boston or LA but I don't think those are available)
I would do Phoenix #4 plus a future protected first

The only one I think is realistic is Philly. You might actually be able to screw Bryan Colangelo over as he is going to be under some pressure to deliver results. Jimmy + Simmons + Embiid + filler is a playoff team.

I think Philly jumps on that in a heartbeat, but I also think the Bulls can do a bit better than that for Butler.

Philly sends...
Gerald Henderson (purely for salary purposes),
Luwawu,
2017 #3,
2018 LAL 1st,
2018 PHI 1st or the rights to Furkan Korkmaz

I love the enthusiasm but your not getting their most recent 1st and 3 other 1sts for him. 2 of which are top 5 picks.

I see only one top 5 pick there, which is this year's #3. I'd bet that Butler + Simmons + Embiid + Saric + Bayless and the rest of the supporting group they have there is a playoff team. The Lakers next year are probably a mid to late lottery team, with a puncher's chance at the playoffs. Korkmaz was last year's 26th pick.

[TheStig]

I think Philly jumps on that in a heartbeat, but I also think the Bulls can do a bit better than that for Butler.

Philly sends...
Gerald Henderson (purely for salary purposes),
Luwawu,
2017 #3,
2018 LAL 1st,
2018 PHI 1st or the rights to Furkan Korkmaz

I love the enthusiasm but your not getting their most recent 1st and 3 other 1sts for him. 2 of which are top 5 picks.

I see only one top 5 pick there, which is this year's #3. I'd bet that Butler + Simmons + Embiid + Saric + Bayless and the rest of the supporting group they have there is a playoff team. The Lakers next year are probably a mid to late lottery team, with a puncher's chance at the playoffs. Korkmaz was last year's 26th pick.

I doubt Ball makes much of an impact as a rookie on their record. He might get them a couple more wins. Lakers will likely be a lotto pick again.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Not that I thought Boston was trading the pick anyway, but a Cavs sweep takes that option off the table entirely.

[erlim]

I love the enthusiasm but your not getting their most recent 1st and 3 other 1sts for him. 2 of which are top 5 picks.

I see only one top 5 pick there, which is this year's #3. I'd bet that Butler + Simmons + Embiid + Saric + Bayless and the rest of the supporting group they have there is a playoff team. The Lakers next year are probably a mid to late lottery team, with a puncher's chance at the playoffs. Korkmaz was last year's 26th pick.

I doubt Ball makes much of an impact as a rookie on their record. He might get them a couple more wins. Lakers will likely be a lotto pick again.

I think it's safe to assume they are going to land Paul George though.

Ball/Russell/PG13/Randall/ any c or pf

Is probably an 8th -5th seed.

[Ralphb07]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

[gardenofsound]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

I would think the Bulls should be able to get more for Butler than Sacramento got for Cousins. They get an extra half year of him, and he's not a total headcase.

I'd be very interested in that Minnesota deal if it's the 2020 pick, not 2019. I want a pick from them for the season AFTER Jimmy hits free agency, in case he decides to go elsewhere and Minnesota isn't that good.

[GimmeDat]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

Only one that really interests me is Phoenix's 4/Bender, because I'm high on Bender. I'd try and push for one of the MIA picks or Ulis, if those got on the table I'd be in.

Denver's doesn't interest me. I like Murray but if he's the headline asset, nope.

I do feel Minny will include LaVine in to that package. LaVine/Dunn/7 would be up there, imo.

[Ralphb07]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

I would think the Bulls should be able to get more for Butler than Sacramento got for Cousins. They get an extra half year of him, and he's not a total headcase.

I'd be very interested in that Minnesota deal if it's the 2020 pick, not 2019. I want a pick from them for the season AFTER Jimmy hits free agency, in case he decides to go elsewhere and Minnesota isn't that good.

It just doesn't seem like teams are willing to offer much for him though. In regards to Minny yeah 2020 1st would be good.

[Ralphb07]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

Only one that really interests me is Phoenix's 4/Bender, because I'm high on Bender. I'd try and push for one of the MIA picks or Ulis, if those got on the table I'd be in.

Denver's doesn't interest me. I like Murray but if he's the headline asset, nope.

I do feel Minny will include LaVine in to that package. LaVine/Dunn/7 would be up there, imo.

As Bulls fans I think we need to hope LAL or Philadelphia take Jackson. If they do then it opens up Phoenix as a potential suitor. Still I don't see them breaking the bank.

The problem is obviously any team would want Jimmy but only Boston is in the win now position.

[DuckIII]

Not that I thought Boston was trading the pick anyway, but a Cavs sweep takes that option off the table entirely.

Especially when the average margin of victory is +30 per game.

[Rerisen]

Not only should Ainge not trade his pick(s) he might as well start trading the good players he does have for even more picks.

Even if Fultz becomes a superstar, he's going to need a lot more help that what's on this Celtics team, or what they'll be in 3-4 years.

[Just_Bullz]

Trading with Minny is a no brainer, #7+Lavine+Dunn for an all NBA 3rd team player that plays both ends for the floor. In fact, I feel Jimmy's game is gonna get better if he goes to Minny as he no longer has to shoulder the offensive load given that Wiggins and KAT are there. He can focus more on the defensive end which what the wolves need badly.

But the #7 pick is tricky, you can't get a Jayson Tatum yet if you draft Zach Collins, it could be too high.

Trading with the Sixers doesn't make sense, Simmons has not seen a single game in the NBA yet and is coming back from a serious injury, Embiid as good as he is with the limited games he played is treading on thin ice like a potential Greg oden. I doubt the Sixers front office would be so silly to trade away their first round pick when both Simmons and Embiid having injury history and the lack of games they have played.

[fleet]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

I would think the Bulls should be able to get more for Butler than Sacramento got for Cousins. They get an extra half year of him, and he's not a total headcase.

I'd be very interested in that Minnesota deal if it's the 2020 pick, not 2019. I want a pick from them for the season AFTER Jimmy hits free agency, in case he decides to go elsewhere and Minnesota isn't that good.

It just doesn't seem like teams are willing to offer much for him though. In regards to Minny yeah 2020 1st would be good.

That is why people ought to stop talking about what they think he is worth, and start accepting what we can get.

[GimmeDat]

Minnesota and Denver make a ton of sense and Phoenix if Josh Jackson is gone at 3. The problem is I don't think fans will like the returns much.

Minnesota- Dunn, 7th pick and a 2019 1st.

Denver- Murray, Hernangomez, 13th pick and Wilson Chandler.

Phoenix- 4th pick and Bender.

Pretty much what Sacramento got in return. I know it's not popular but if they aren't going to super max him, get what you can and start the process.

Only one that really interests me is Phoenix's 4/Bender, because I'm high on Bender. I'd try and push for one of the MIA picks or Ulis, if those got on the table I'd be in.

Denver's doesn't interest me. I like Murray but if he's the headline asset, nope.

I do feel Minny will include LaVine in to that package. LaVine/Dunn/7 would be up there, imo.

As Bulls fans I think we need to hope LAL or Philadelphia take Jackson. If they do then it opens up Phoenix as a potential suitor. Still I don't see them breaking the bank.

The problem is obviously any team would want Jimmy but only Boston is in the win now position.

I think most Philly fans want Jackson.

Thing is, if you're Phoenix, I think drafting Fox and trading Bledsoe looks very attractive even with Jackson gone.

[TheStig]

I see only one top 5 pick there, which is this year's #3. I'd bet that Butler + Simmons + Embiid + Saric + Bayless and the rest of the supporting group they have there is a playoff team. The Lakers next year are probably a mid to late lottery team, with a puncher's chance at the playoffs. Korkmaz was last year's 26th pick.

I doubt Ball makes much of an impact as a rookie on their record. He might get them a couple more wins. Lakers will likely be a lotto pick again.

I think it's safe to assume they are going to land Paul George though.

Ball/Russell/PG13/Randall/ any c or pf

Is probably an 8th -5th seed.

If the Pacers aren't getting real value, then they'd likely keep him for the year and see if he can't make an all nba team so that they can give him the designated player max. I know ESPN is blasting he'll be traded but it doesn't necessarily make sense. George still has a good chance to make an all nba team and hasn't demanded out. The LA talk is just speculation at this point.

[hellenicbull]

Butler for the number 3 pick and Saric plus the lakers 2018. The Sixers get a superstar and then can sign Lowery. They will still
have their 2018 pick. The Bulls finally go full rebuild. It's fair for both sides.