Coronavirus

[Ccwatercraft]

You guys are all freaking me the hell out right now.

It’s more freaky because I don’t consider any of these posts farfetched either, given the history of viruses.

That said, did I miss an update over the last two days? Has it began to spread in the states?

It has started to spread. It's hit California, Oregon, Washington, and NY so far (small numbers, but expected to spread).

florida as of a couple hours ago.

[bulls_troy]

Geez it's barely in Australia... we've had 30 cases of it here

[SimonFish]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

There have been reports that the structure of the virus contains DNA similar to HIVs, and that even when one is "cured", the virus would still exist in the patient's body.

All we have to blame is the totalitarian Chinese government who made the virus, and bribed the World Health Organization in talking down the impact.

The NBA and Adam Silver turned a blind eye when Lebron criticized Morey's tweet supporting pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong in favour of Renminbi. Rather sooner or later, we will all realize the harm that the Chinese Community Party brings to the entire world. Hopefully, it won't be too late by then.

[Bullstuff]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

I hope you have enough tin foil for a hat.

[coldfish]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

There have been reports that the structure of the virus contains DNA similar to HIVs, and that even when one is "cured", the virus would still exist in the patient's body.

All we have to blame is the totalitarian Chinese government who made the virus, and bribed the World Health Organization in talking down the impact.

The NBA and Adam Silver turned a blind eye when Lebron criticized Morey's tweet supporting pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong in favour of Renminbi. Rather sooner or later, we will all realize the harm that the Chinese Community Party brings to the entire world. Hopefully, it won't be too late by then.

Just to note, that's controversial at best. It came out after that the genes that were common between this and HIV were ones that were common in most viruses. Its like saying a human baby was bioengineered from a snake because they both have two eyes.

[Michael Jackson]

About all I'm doing is trying to call the bottom in the stock market crash, so I can go back in after pulling a bunch out in November since I thought it was overbought.

It looks most likely that in the long run, this virus will have no greater impact than the current flu. Sure, I wish we could contain it and stop it, so it never comes back, because adding one more opportunity to get the flu each year sucks for everyone, but there's not a lot of reason to think it will ultimately be more deadly or that if you get it that you are now in some death sentence type of situation.

i would have put money in the market at the end of friday if i could have. we're at long-term support right now and from a psychological standpoint people tend to take a deep breath over the weekend. see 1 yr chart:

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/funds-and-etfs/spy

i'll always regret trying to pick a bottom in the market in 2009. we had just hit a new low, so i didn't think the panic was over yet.
but things abruptly turned around without me and never came back

I did put in some buys on Friday afternoon just because of that. Let’s see if it was close to the bottom. I don’t care if it is the exact bottom it was still a good time long term to invest.

[dougthonus]

About all I'm doing is trying to call the bottom in the stock market crash, so I can go back in after pulling a bunch out in November since I thought it was overbought.

It looks most likely that in the long run, this virus will have no greater impact than the current flu. Sure, I wish we could contain it and stop it, so it never comes back, because adding one more opportunity to get the flu each year sucks for everyone, but there's not a lot of reason to think it will ultimately be more deadly or that if you get it that you are now in some death sentence type of situation.

i would have put money in the market at the end of friday if i could have. we're at long-term support right now and from a psychological standpoint people tend to take a deep breath over the weekend. see 1 yr chart:

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/funds-and-etfs/spy

i'll always regret trying to pick a bottom in the market in 2009. we had just hit a new low, so i didn't think the panic was over yet.
but things abruptly turned around without me and never came back

We're only back down to September prices. I thought the run up from September to pre-crash prices was insane. I think there is a lot to give back potentially still. That said, I'm not necessarily goign to try and find the absolute bottom or anything. I may get back in real soon.

[wolffy]

China seems to be doing s decent job of limiting the spread but they have a bit easier time policing their citizens than we will.

They allow one person from each household to leave the home once every two days. Grocery stores are still open but they check ur temp at the door.

[musiqsoulchild]

A few things to add as general maintenance:

1) Fasting - if you can fast, this is a GREAT opportunity. Its Lent and Ramzaan time anyway. Just extend the fast and bit more and dont gorge afterwards. Fasting helps your immune system to rebound as it frees up valuable resources that are otherwise committed to digestion.

2) Eat as clean as possible. Canned, Frozen and Fresh are all great options now

3) Go CRAZY on Limes and Lemons. And this might sound gross, but dont throw out the fruit after squeexing out the juice. Eat all of it. Its naturally available medicine.

4) Use water and rags for cleaning instead of Paper Towels.

5) Consume less. Live more.

6) If you have kids going to school etc, stay tuned with whats happening at school. And teach them all of the things that will help drive positive behavioral change. Touching the face with hands is the MOST PROBABLE way of getting any sickness. If they can reduce that, thats huge for their overall health

These are all just good to-do's anyway - Corona or not.

Stay safe and stay happy Fam!

[lemonmellow]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

I hope you have enough tin foil for a hat.

Right, because anyone doubting whether China is telling the truth, is the crazy one.

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[Jimako10]

Next year's Nyquil bottles will be labeled as "For Cold, Flu, and Coronavirus".

[HearshotKDS]

Me and my family were unlucky enough to travel in Central China in late January this year. Outside of cutting our vacation short, I'm doing nothing. I still suspect this goes the way of Zika, SARS, Bird FLu, Swine Flu, etc. and burns out/becomes a footnote within the next 2-3 months.

[Flopper]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

I hope you have enough tin foil for a hat.

Right, because anyone doubting whether China is telling the truth, is the crazy one.

Read on Twitter

That's basically a load of ****. There's credible research out there that indicates that bat to human coronavirus transmissions happen more easily and more frequently than previously thought.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/20/807742861/new-research-bats-harbor-hundreds-of-coronaviruses-and-spillovers-arent-rare

[Taikuri]

Eventually a vaccine will be out or drugs to help fight it.

I read on CNN's website that about 20 vaccines are in development but to get one vaccine confirmed that it's working and in mass distribution will take at least a year.

[Taikuri]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

There have been reports that the structure of the virus contains DNA similar to HIVs, and that even when one is "cured", the virus would still exist in the patient's body.

All we have to blame is the totalitarian Chinese government who made the virus, and bribed the World Health Organization in talking down the impact.

If we are going to speculate about conspiracy theories we could go on forever and also say that it's in fact Americans who planted the virus to spead in China to make it look like China spread it. This would be a ploy to attempt to throw off China as the global economy leader that they are. Perhaps the vaccine is already made and it would be released only at the moment when it would look like it would start to be a major concern in North-America as well.

Perhaps it's a medicine company that started spreading it and this medicine company would have monopoly position on the only vaccine. Everyone would have to buy it from them and they could set the price as high as they would want to.

The whole idea of that isn't too far from the comparison of people speculating that WTC attacks were inside job by the Americans to get a reason to attack Middle East and eventually get the oil. Trade human lives for some major $$$ in both cases.

Not that I believe in any of that really but it's another conspiracy theory if we want to go that route. We can't know the truth so it seems pretty pointless at this point.

[ArtMorte]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

I hope you have enough tin foil for a hat.

Right, because anyone doubting whether China is telling the truth, is the crazy one.

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If corona was a biological weapon, why would it have such a low fatality rate?

[lemonmellow]

If you all want to believe the 'official' story from China, the authoritarian government that silenced the doctor, and any other 'rumor-mongers', who tried to warn people about the virus, that deliberately covered up and downplayed the seriousness and severity of the emerging crisis, that changed their 'official' story several times, that has never been honest about the actual numbers and facts involved, that has cost thousands of people their lives, interrupted and paralyzed daily life across nations, and sent world markets tumbling... Probably personally costing RealGM members here thousands of dollars or more... And oh by the way, that's the same China that encouraged the theft of our intellectual property and patents, has never played by the rules in negotiations or otherwise, and openly censors its citizens, being guilty of untold human rights violations...

...if you want to believe the 'official' story from China, be my guest.

But if you think mommy and daddy might have lied about Santa Clause, then start asking the right ****ing questions.

[samwana]

If you all want to believe the 'official' story from China, the authoritarian government that silenced the doctor, and any other 'rumor-mongers', who tried to warn people about the virus, that deliberately covered up and downplayed the seriousness and severity of the emerging crisis, that changed their 'official' story several times, that has never been honest about the actual numbers and facts involved, that has cost thousands of people their lives, interrupted and paralyzed daily life across nations, and sent world markets tumbling... Probably personally costing RealGM members here thousands of dollars or more... And oh by the way, that's the same China that encouraged the theft of our intellectual property and patents, has never played by the rules in negotiations or otherwise, and openly censors its citizens, being guilty of untold human rights violations...

...if you want to believe the 'official' story from China, be my guest.

But if you think mommy and daddy might have lied about Santa Clause, then start asking the right ****ing questions.

Honest question for you, what do you think are the right questions. I'm very sceptical about what really happens behind the scenes, so I'm very interested in your take.

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[lemonmellow]

If you all want to believe the 'official' story from China, the authoritarian government that silenced the doctor, and any other 'rumor-mongers', who tried to warn people about the virus, that deliberately covered up and downplayed the seriousness and severity of the emerging crisis, that changed their 'official' story several times, that has never been honest about the actual numbers and facts involved, that has cost thousands of people their lives, interrupted and paralyzed daily life across nations, and sent world markets tumbling... Probably personally costing RealGM members here thousands of dollars or more... And oh by the way, that's the same China that encouraged the theft of our intellectual property and patents, has never played by the rules in negotiations or otherwise, and openly censors its citizens, being guilty of untold human rights violations...

...if you want to believe the 'official' story from China, be my guest.

But if you think mommy and daddy might have lied about Santa Clause, then start asking the right ****ing questions.

Honest question for you, what do you think are the right questions. I'm very sceptical about what really happens behind the scenes, so I'm very interested in your take.

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How did this really happen? Where did it really start? When did they first know? Why wasn't it contained sooner? What are the odds that the Wuhan virology lab is at ground zero / dead center of the epidemic? What really goes on at that lab, and why should we trust the answer from the Chinese Communist Party, which lies about everything to maintain control? And most importantly, who benefits? Who stands to benefit from all this? "He who most benefits from a crime, is the one most likely to have committed it."

Also, should China get a free pass for this global disaster? Even if there was no intentional foul play, the grossly incompetent state response from the Chinese Communist Party--the deliberate lying, covering up, silencing the truth, punishing those who tried to warn everyone, misreporting the actual numbers or purposely falsifying them, the slow-to-respond, everything-is-all-right front that the government put up in the government controlled press--all in order to 'save face' and keep the status quo of power and control, has now cost thousands of lives the world over. Along with hundreds of billions, maybe trillions, of dollars.

To paraphrase Tarantino in Pulp Fiction, they're ****ing our **** up right now.

[dice]

The scariest thing about this virus is that it is highly likely to be a manufactured virus (or, a "bioweapon") instead of a natural one.

I hope you have enough tin foil for a hat.

Right, because anyone doubting whether China is telling the truth, is the crazy one.

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the new york post is a tabloid. you're most certainly the crazy one. not even donald trump is parroting this nonsense. he not only would not hesitate to try and blame china for something, but re-tweets everything loony conspiracy theory he sees which promotes his worldview

when prominent doctors are buying into the conspiracy, get back to us. until then...