Valentine appreciation thread (signed with CLE)

The Senator · Post #41 » by **The Senator** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:17 am

Mr. Tibbs wrote:I think I'm on my own island here but I actually liked Denzel. Awful athleticism, couldn't really finish around the basket and didn't try to. But I thought he kept the offense humming and could put up points fast when he was hot. I think there's a tendency to overreact to people who have Javale Mcgee level cringey bad moments..which admittedly valentine definitely had lol.

I'm not at all torn up that he's not here anymore, but I think he's good enough to be an NBA rotation player on a number of teams. I also think he's infinitely better than say a Chandler Hutchison (which may not be saying much but still).

On a slightly related note..does anyone have that gif where Denzel looked like a crazy person on the bench reacting to Makoka going nuts in his first game? I feel like I've had nightmares of that.

Spoiler:

Found a bonus clip, even if I couldn't find the actual full gif I was looking for.

pipfan · Post #42 » by **pipfan** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:46 am

One of my least favorite Bulls of the last 10 years. My starting 5 of guys I wanted off the team

CPayne
Valentine
Dougie
Boozer
Felicio (more for the stupid contract-I STILL can't see why they gave him 4 guaranteed years)

erlim · Post #43 » by **erlim** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:36 pm

I found this interview he did about his rap career with USA today last February.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/02/bulls-denzel-valentine-music-rap-ep-videos

And here’s a YouTube video I found by the random dude off the street that sonned Denzel in the Drew League. Denzel sounds like a pompous ass. And one that couldn’t back up his words in the least. Quite the opposite of Brian Scalabrine destroying NCAA starters and the like.

Watch on YouTube

TheHrvReport · Post #44 » by **TheHrvReport** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:19 pm

I'm more athletic than Denzel Valentine

Mk0 · Post #45 » by **Mk0** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:15 am

TheHrvReport wrote:I'm more athletic than Denzel Valentine

Tell me you can jump over a phone book without telling me you can jump over a phone book.

MalagaBulls · Post #46 » by **MalagaBulls** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:41 pm

Denzel trippin:

Read on Twitter

sco · Post #47 » by **sco** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:50 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Denzel trippin:

Read on Twitter

He may be equally bad guarding 1-4 :lol:

HoopsterJones · Post #48 » by **HoopsterJones** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:18 pm

He’s just too inconsistent, not very athletic, and doesn’t have good BBIQ. Maybe he’ll be a fringe NBA player for a few more years but his days are numbered. Still wish him the best though.

robert76 · Post #49 » by **robert76** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:17 pm

sco wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:Denzel trippin:

Read on Twitter

He may be equally bad guarding 1-4

In that case, he should add the 5 too. Why sell himself short?

Post #50 » by **HomoSapien** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:29 pm

Denzel may be might least favorite player that's donned our beautiful jersey.

jsleesl28 · Post #51 » by **jsleesl28** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:45 pm

TheHrvReport wrote:I'm more athletic than Denzel Valentine

standing reach of 8 ft 6 inches (combine numbers) and he could barely dunk. so yes I bet you are correct on this. lol

FYI, his vertical leap was 27inches

Axl Rose · Post #52 » by **Axl Rose** » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:10 am

HomoSapien wrote:Denzel may be might least favorite player that's donned our beautiful jersey.

Larry Hughes smiles now that he has been surpassed.

nomorezorro · Post #53 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:55 am

denzel is one of the funniest players i've ever had the fortune of watching. you are playing yourself if you hold any feelings of animosity toward him instead of just savoring the spectacle

plus he led the summer bulls, the franchise's pinnacle of success from 2015-2020. hang his jersey in the rafters

PlayerUp · Post #54 » by **PlayerUp** » Fri Oct 1, 2021 5:11 am

Valentine was bad, really bad.

This Season Stats:
37.3% FG
33.1% 3PT
6.5 PPG
17 MPG

He was given more opportunities than most players would ever get and failed to excel. He isn't a NBA level player.

Now 28 years old he is what he is. A player that peaked in college.

BullChit · Post #55 » by **BullChit** » Fri Oct 1, 2021 10:26 am

PlayerUp wrote:Valentine was bad, really bad.

This Season Stats:
37.3% FG
33.1% 3PT
6.5 PPG
17 MPG

He was given more opportunities than most players would ever get and failed to excel. He isn't a NBA level player.

Now 28 years old he is what he is. A player that peaked in college.

Not according to Denzel he isn't... he can play and gaurd 4 positions and do so much more than the Bulls allowed him to do...

Plus he is like the top 5 MCs of all time
DENZEL
DENZEL
DENZEL
DENZEL AND
DENZEL....

erlim · Post #56 » by **erlim** » Wed Oct 6, 2021 2:19 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Denzel trippin:

Read on Twitter

Any player of any of those positions is liable to put 60 on Val.

MrSparkle · Post #57 » by **MrSparkle** » Wed Oct 6, 2021 6:07 pm

Denzel might hang on for a few years cause he really can shoot and pass the ball, but beyond that he's not NBA caliber. Coupled with Thad's retirement, I'm really not surprised if most of GarPax's 19/20 roster is basically out the league or fishing for camp deals by 2023... just like the 13-18 crop, largely out the league. Had a knack for overpaying guys who need to retire or belong in the Euroleague. Of course I'm not talking about starters who simply got injured like Noah or Rose, or Taj, but I speak of their back-end roster: paying cap space for Kirk and Dunleavy clearly 1 tweak away from retirement. Giving Boozer 5y (didn't understand why they gave 5; he already was a shadow of his pre-surgery self in Utah). Giving Wade 2y. They just had a knack for not really projecting a guy's drop in 1-2 years, which is interesting considering they patted themselves on being excellent cheap talent scouts.

But it was more surprising to me that they started drafting guys with athletic specs barely resembling 41 year olds still playing in the league (i.e. Vince Carter, Jamal Crawford and Udonis Haslem): Denzel, Doug, Zipser, Bairstow, Wendell, Lauri, Coby.

Coby can run fast, which is his saving point, but man... the kid can't jump. I say this with 100% seriousness; I think that Michael Jordan at freaking 58yo can still beat any of those guys less than half his age in 1-on-1. I realize he's the GOAT, but I'm just saying that GarPax kept nabbing some SUPER sub-par NBA athletes.

Post #58 » by **HomoSapien** » Wed Oct 6, 2021 6:34 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Denzel might hang on for a few years cause he really can shoot and pass the ball, but beyond that he's not NBA caliber.Coupled with Thad's retirement, I'm really not surprised if most of GarPax's 19/20 roster is basically out the league or fishing for camp deals by 2023...

Thad retired??

MrSparkle · Post #59 » by **MrSparkle** » Wed Oct 6, 2021 6:48 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:Denzel might hang on for a few years cause he really can shoot and pass the ball, but beyond that he's not NBA caliber.Coupled with Thad's retirement, I'm really not surprised if most of GarPax's 19/20 roster is basically out the league or fishing for camp deals by 2023...

Thad retired??

No, badly worded... I meant 2023-ish (I imagine he'll be retired... at least he seemed to suggest that in an interview of him, coupled with how he needed a 20 mpg workload). Fact is he had a great bounce-back year but he is on his last legs.

Post #60 » by **HomoSapien** » Wed Oct 6, 2021 6:56 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:Denzel might hang on for a few years cause he really can shoot and pass the ball, but beyond that he's not NBA caliber.Coupled with Thad's retirement, I'm really not surprised if most of GarPax's 19/20 roster is basically out the league or fishing for camp deals by 2023...

Thad retired??

No, badly worded... I meant 2023-ish (I imagine he'll be retired... at least he seemed to suggest that in an interview of him, coupled with how he needed a 20 mpg workload). Fact is he had a great bounce-back year but he is on his last legs.

Oh! Gotcha. I was thinking the Bulls really did a number with Thad's emotions considering he considered retiring after Boylen.