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I know everyone was watching Paolo and Chet. But the Duke center Williams really popped for me on defense- rangy and physical. He’s projected late 1st due to age and lack of all-around offensive game (he will be the ripe age of 20 lol) but I could see him in Chicago next year.
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Trace-Jackson the next Sabonis?
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superdave wrote:I know everyone was watching Paolo and Chet. But the Duke center Williams really popped for me on defense- rangy and physical. He’s projected late 1st due to age and lack of all-around offensive game (he will be the ripe age of 20 lol) but I could see him in Chicago next year.
Williams up to 14 here.
Murray from Iowa up to 7.
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Chi town wrote:Trace-Jackson the next Sabonis?
Seems almost a no brainer for me at this point Jackson-Davis or Williams with one of our picks ... if we have two picks and one of those is available.
Just started watching highlights today, but I really like Jackson-Davis fit.
1) We need to get some big depth.
2) We are a win-now, so it's ok if the guy is an upper classman (Jackson Davis obviously a Junior so three years of Big 10 experience ... Williams still very young but he will be a Sophomore so I take that as a plus).
3) Particularly we need an exuberant shot blocker to develop; Vuc here another year as post scorer, so a young off bench that can come in year one and just worry about doing one thing well on court while developing other aspects off court (both of these guys are committed rim protectors it seems).
4) Jackson-Davis has the style of play that fits in seemlessly with our offense ... rim to rim runner, strong and big ol' body, but still light on feet, gets up for ally-oops ... one highlights I'm really impressed with his movement off the ball and how he locates and gets into spaces around basket the set him up for a quick release after a pass inside.
I'll be keeping an eye on both of them.
If we get the Portland pick around 15-18 ... that will be wild! I'm excited to see AKME (please stay ME!!) draft two FRP with a competitive franchise set up already.
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Peyton Watson or Julian Champagnie @ 2-3-4
Mark Williams or Daimion Collins @ 4-5
Mark Williams or Daimion Collins @ 4-5
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#1 on my board is Ivey. Hard to do as a Hoosier alum and him playing for Purdue:)
He’s like the Ja Morant SG version. Incredible body control and athleticism. He knows how to play and anticipate. He has an extra elite gear. Better frame than Ja. What I like most is that he’s a dog. Plays with an edge the whole game. Most exciting player in college ball.
He’s like the Ja Morant SG version. Incredible body control and athleticism. He knows how to play and anticipate. He has an extra elite gear. Better frame than Ja. What I like most is that he’s a dog. Plays with an edge the whole game. Most exciting player in college ball.
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I know mocks don't mean anything yet, but if Kennedy Chandler or TyTy are available with the Portland pick, you run to the podium to select one of them.
Great Coby replacements.
Great Coby replacements.
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TheSuzerain wrote:I know mocks don't mean anything yet, but if Kennedy Chandler or TyTy are available with the Portland pick, you run to the podium to select one of them.
Great Coby replacements.
The Portland pick doesn’t exist this year. People gotta let go of it. Dame’s injury seems serious enough, and I just saw a headline about Chauncey calling out effort....again (already?!).
Portland should stealth tank this year, and hope to get an impact player to help Dame.
They’re in a tough spot though. I wouldn’t count on that pick anytime soon. Our best hope is probably that they do want to blow it up, and we can trade them back their pick for a guy like RoCo or Nance if ownership will hopefully pay up.
Reinsdorf & Co. - sell the team!!
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Wingy wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:I know mocks don't mean anything yet, but if Kennedy Chandler or TyTy are available with the Portland pick, you run to the podium to select one of them.
Great Coby replacements.
The Portland pick doesn’t exist this year. People gotta let go of it. Dame’s injury seems serious enough, and I just saw a headline about Chauncey calling out effort....again (already?!).
Portland should stealth tank this year, and hope to get an impact player to help Dame.
They’re in a tough spot though. I wouldn’t count on that pick anytime soon. Our best hope is probably that they do want to blow it up, and we can trade them back their pick for a guy like RoCo or Nance if ownership will hopefully pay up.
Blazers are the 10th seed (I.e. in the play-in) and that's with Lillard playing horrendously. West is soft this year though. Not going to be hard for them to rise in the standings.
We absolutely do not want them to blow it up.
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TheSuzerain wrote:Wingy wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:I know mocks don't mean anything yet, but if Kennedy Chandler or TyTy are available with the Portland pick, you run to the podium to select one of them.
Great Coby replacements.
The Portland pick doesn’t exist this year. People gotta let go of it. Dame’s injury seems serious enough, and I just saw a headline about Chauncey calling out effort....again (already?!).
Portland should stealth tank this year, and hope to get an impact player to help Dame.
They’re in a tough spot though. I wouldn’t count on that pick anytime soon. Our best hope is probably that they do want to blow it up, and we can trade them back their pick for a guy like RoCo or Nance if ownership will hopefully pay up.
Blazers are the 10th seed (I.e. in the play-in) and that's with Lillard playing horrendously. West is soft this year though. Not going to be hard for them to rise in the standings.
We absolutely do not want them to blow it up.
Soft compared to previous years, but still good. They’re going to keep losing ground while Dame is out. They’d actually have to win the play-in to get in if they even make that. We’ll see, but I’ll be really seriously surprised if it conveys this season.
Reinsdorf & Co. - sell the team!!
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/11/chicago-bulls-phoenix-suns-bad-ownership-robert-sarver-jerry-reinsdorf
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Keep an eye on Nzosa as well. Incredible length and athleticism with a high motor. Sushi raw offensive game but he will be an effective player on traits and effort alone.
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By draft time we won't have a 1st rd pick anymore.
Our gm will include them (with DJJ, and P.Will) in a trade for a PF.
Our gm will include them (with DJJ, and P.Will) in a trade for a PF.
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I pray that the Portland pick conveys because our own pick is going to be pretty low. We need more size. So drafting any of the guards in this draft is probably not our best move. IF the Portland pick conveys it MIGHT give us a shot at Nikola Jovic, Roko Prkacin, Ousmane Dieng of New Zealand, Jabari Walker of Colorado, or Keegan Murray out of Iowa. For a big our own pick might get us someone like Mark Williams of Duke. If we get both picks we need to draft a "4" with the Portland pick and then the best shooter left on the board with our pick, regardless of position. I wish we had a high second rounder in 2022, we could use Drew Timme.
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TheSuzerain wrote:Blazers are the 10th seed (I.e. in the play-in) and that's with Lillard playing horrendously. West is soft this year though. Not going to be hard for them to rise in the standings.
Lillard is now out for awhile, McCollum just got hurt (not sure if he will miss time or how much just saw headline), the coach is criticizing them regularly. We'll see what happens here, but I'd bet on Portland to miss the playoffs. I'd say fair chance they go into fire sale mode at the deadline and move Lillard too.
We absolutely do not want them to blow it up.
I agree, odds are that if they do this pick conveys into second rounders a long time out. I think it's now or never with this pick. It's a shame we didn't get top 8 protection on it instead or declining protection in future years so we eventually get something like top 8 protection, but Portland knew what they were doing here.
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I could see a Lillard trade where the Blazers actually improve. He has been no bueno this year due to injury. He wants the Knicks but I think he will settle for the Sixers. Simmons and Maxey could really help the Blazers go.
Could also see Lillard staying if ME takes over after the season. He won’t want to trade him. He will build around him AK style.
Could also see Lillard staying if ME takes over after the season. He won’t want to trade him. He will build around him AK style.
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DASMACKDOWN wrote:GimmeDat would normally answer this but whomever else can chime in. What is the actual NBA version of Chet Holmgren?
He obviously isnt a 5. I think Derrick Jones Jr weights more than he does. Is he going to be a SF or PF in the NBA?
Ha! I'm not completely gone.
I need to preface this by saying I haven't watched much college basketball so far this season though, so these observations aren't very informed.
What I've seen of Chet, yeah the frame is wildly thin, but he doesn't get knocked around with a bad center of gravity ala other thin bigs (the one that comes to mind is Thon Maker). He moves really well, and he actually plays quite physical and doesn't back down from contact. Would I rather him not look like a daddy long legs out there physically? Absolutely. But I don't think it's nearly as big an issue as it looks. He can hold his own down there. He has some differences physically, but look at Evan Mobley; he's pretty thin/long and dangly, and he's doing more than fine.
I also think it's tenable that he's a big in the NBA. Like a 4/5. His rebound numbers are excellent, he's a prolific rim protector, and he scores in the paint offensively. I definitely don't think he's a 3 or should ever really be played there. But I would be interested to watch closer and see how his post defence is against bulkier guys.
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Also really like Mathurin, first came across him when he played in the NBA Global Academy team with Giddey in 2019. Shot's looking even more fluid than then.
You should bet on these guys that come through the Academy, seriously. Hyunjung Lee has been sensational for Davidson, 6'7 shooter with effectively 50/40/90 splits, Taran Armstrong is blowing up at CBU, then you have guys like Aly Khalifa, Efe Abogidi, etc, all doing their thing.
I also made this video on Dyson Daniels before the GL season -
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I like Dyson, he's done well so far with Ignite as well, but there's just a lack of fluidity to his game offensively that I think is going to limit him. But man, he does so many things at a high level on the floor. Had a game recently with 4 points, 9 rebounds, 10 assists, 1 steal, and 5 blocks, as a 6'6 guard. The scoring development will determine his ceiling.
I really like Jaden Ivy, best guard in the draft imo. Jovic's also really nice. I feel like this year's first round is going to be a bit of a mess beyond the top 5 ish picks, not necessarily a bad thing, I think someone interesting could fall to us.
You should bet on these guys that come through the Academy, seriously. Hyunjung Lee has been sensational for Davidson, 6'7 shooter with effectively 50/40/90 splits, Taran Armstrong is blowing up at CBU, then you have guys like Aly Khalifa, Efe Abogidi, etc, all doing their thing.
I also made this video on Dyson Daniels before the GL season -
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I like Dyson, he's done well so far with Ignite as well, but there's just a lack of fluidity to his game offensively that I think is going to limit him. But man, he does so many things at a high level on the floor. Had a game recently with 4 points, 9 rebounds, 10 assists, 1 steal, and 5 blocks, as a 6'6 guard. The scoring development will determine his ceiling.
I really like Jaden Ivy, best guard in the draft imo. Jovic's also really nice. I feel like this year's first round is going to be a bit of a mess beyond the top 5 ish picks, not necessarily a bad thing, I think someone interesting could fall to us.
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eierluke wrote:By draft time we won't have a 1st rd pick anymore.
Our gm will include them (with DJJ, and P.Will) in a trade for a PF.
That’s not legal, they have to keep their draft pick because they don’t have a 2023 pick.
The Bulls will have a draft pick on draft night. They can always trade the guy the drafted immediately after, but that’s it.
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