PG: Windy City Bulls lose

[nekorajo]

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Zach, he is not an impactful guy. Empty stats charge holds on…

Zach was not the problem tonight.

Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.

Vuc was terrible. Terrible. And not just today. He plays with no force. And worse he keeps missing wide open shots. Its one thing for a shooter to miss contested shots, but this dude has been missing open shots all season.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Should’ve won this game tbh. Still had Zach, Vuc, Caruso, Ball. This game should’ve been a W.

Bad loss, can’t blame Covid

[Jcool0]

I think COVID is the bigger problem, but Vooch’s sharp decline is certainly up there.

But shame on the league for not postponing this game. That team out there tonight wouldn’t be able to beat Detroit. Until we get some people back, it’ll be Ls across the chest.

the bulls gave up 118 points to a team whose 2 best players have been a 35 year old lowry and 36 year old PJ tucker. the heat had a similar menu of excuses not to show up tonight

I will say it is a different mindset of a player being out because of an injury and a player being out because of contagious disease.

[bearadonisdna]

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Zach was not the problem tonight.

Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.

Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

Don’t worry I told him how he was wrong.

[Jcool0]

Read on Twitter

[WindyCityBorn]

Read on Twitter

Vuc sucks and has all season. Time to perform.

[WindyCityBorn]

Should’ve won this game tbh. Still had Zach, Vuc, Caruso, Ball. This game should’ve been a W.

Bad loss, can’t blame Covid

Vuc doesn’t count for much these days. Just a name at this point.

[BloodyQ]

Should’ve won this game tbh. Still had Zach, Vuc, Caruso, Ball. This game should’ve been a W.

Bad loss, can’t blame Covid

Yep, as long as they have those 4 I expect them to win any games that's not against the Warriors, Bucks or Suns. But it looks like Demar is really the goddamn MVP.

[coldfish]

I'll repeat what I said in the game thread.

The Bulls use the same defense and help scheme all the time. You know how it seems that the Bulls are always running out on an open shooter? If you watch, there is a pattern. Opposing teams know where the help is going to come from and when. The well coached teams drive and kick right to these guys.

On the other side of the court, the Bulls really don't have a lot of set plays or player movement. Its very much up to a few players to create. When one of those guys is out (Demar), it noticeably hampers the offense. Teams are just setting up for Zach and that's why it looks like Zach is seeing heavy coverage with no one else being open.

Hopefully Vuc plays better. The covid guys out will return. A lot of this is going to look better.

That said, there are some lingering tactical issues that I worry will hurt them even when fully healthy.

[fleet]

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Zach was not the problem tonight.

Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.

Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.

[bearadonisdna]

You would be hard pressed to find a vuc defender out there but I’m still seeing the accusations.

Even if somebody said he is rushing his shots , that’s more than likely a reality . An objective negative critique on his game. It’s funny how the meat heads just wanna fling sauce.

[Jcool0]

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Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.

Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.

What is Zach supposed to do exactly when Ball, Brown and Vuc go 12-41?

[dice]

I think COVID is the bigger problem, but Vooch’s sharp decline is certainly up there.

But shame on the league for not postponing this game. That team out there tonight wouldn’t be able to beat Detroit. Until we get some people back, it’ll be Ls across the chest.

the bulls gave up 118 points to a team whose 2 best players have been a 35 year old lowry and 36 year old PJ tucker. the heat had a similar menu of excuses not to show up tonight

I will say it is a different mindset of a player being out because of an injury and a player being out because of contagious disease.

huh?

the bulls were 1 point favorites heading into this game. the heat were missing better players

[biggestbullsfan]

Vuc is struggling and idk what it is. It might just be mental knowing he is 3/4 on the list. But he needs to shake it out and maximize his touches. We need it. Especially now.

[Jcool0]

the bulls gave up 118 points to a team whose 2 best players have been a 35 year old lowry and 36 year old PJ tucker. the heat had a similar menu of excuses not to show up tonight

I will say it is a different mindset of a player being out because of an injury and a player being out because of contagious disease.

huh?

the bulls were 1 point favorites heading into this game. the heat were missing better players

You said they had similar excuses and i am saying COVID is not the same as an injury.

[biggestbullsfan]

Also, you’ll be fooling yourself if you don’t think the current Covid outbreak is effecting our team mentality. They’re probably worried they’re next.

[FriedRise]

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He’s obviously out of ideas and kinda crying for help now… not sure if we have anyone on the coaching staff who can help him get through this slump.

[chicago paxsons]

Didn't watch the game but as an avid boxscore-watcher, Vuc is trash and should be packaged with Coby/Pwill and a pick for Turner asap

How does a big man manage to go 3/15? It's not like his bigman matchup was an elite defender, it was Dedmon and some washed up midget defender in Tucker. He might be the epitome of an empty stats "star" when he was in ORL. He's horrendous in Chicago so far.

Not excusing vuc for the horrid performance, but dedmon and tucker are both good defenders. Tuckers definitely not washed up on the defensive end and his being shorter hasn't stopped him from defending guys like durant very well.

I like turner, but not for this team. Donovan likes to have his center be a passing hub, and turner is definitely not that. I'd prefer sabonis, who isn't the defender turner is, but can actually rebound, and can do everyone vuc can do, but better, while have an excellent basketball iq. The other problem with turner is that, on offense he'd be a third or fourth option, and from what i've heard, that's the very reason he wants out of indiana.

[dice]

I will say it is a different mindset of a player being out because of an injury and a player being out because of contagious disease.

huh?

the bulls were 1 point favorites heading into this game. the heat were missing better players

You said they had similar excuses and i am saying COVID is not the same as an injury.

the players on the floor didn't give a rat's ass why their teammates were missing. it's not like anyone died

[Chi town]

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Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.

Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.

Fully agree. Zach has grown a lot and even showed me a little more tonight trying to talk to guys after FTs etc. watching the game for the first 6 mins isn’t good enough. He had to attack the basket. 3 TOS in PNR is awful.

I think Zach will get there. DDR will help him.