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Re: Round 2 targets 

Post#41 » by Indomitable » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:37 pm

Salo23 wrote:Raynaud would be my target in a trade up, I think if we offered our 45th + cash considerations we could move into the 30’s for one of your 5 listed, but I doubt AKME would use cash to move up, they would build “negative equity” with ownership that way… most likely they would deal away multiple future 2nds like they did with Asik and Phillips.

If we stay put @45 I hope we take a flyer on Zikarsky (assuming Raynaud, Fleming, Kalkbrenner are gone).

Zikarsky was guy. Instead we will get more trash.
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#42 » by patryk7754 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:37 pm

I hate this man....but, the guys i want are likely to still be availble at 55 so i'm not to upset
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#43 » by PlayerUp » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:37 pm

Red8911 wrote:Well this was expected but why even take #55 if they don’t even want to draft anyone ?

Also when they say cash consideration, how much cash are we talking ? Why don’t they ever tell us the amount ?


Someone will buy the #55 pick or they'll draft someone overseas who will never make the roster.

This is an unserious team.
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#44 » by jordanwilliams6 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:38 pm

Red8911 wrote:Well this was expected but why even take #55 if they don’t even want to draft anyone ?

Also when they say cash consideration, how much cash are we talking ? Why don’t they ever tell us the amount ?

I get the feeling that we have some random Euro guy that we can stash that no other NBA team would no about.
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#45 » by burlydee » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:41 pm

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Red8911 wrote:Well this was expected but why even take #55 if they don’t even want to draft anyone ?

Also when they say cash consideration, how much cash are we talking ? Why don’t they ever tell us the amount ?

I get the feeling that we have some random Euro guy that we can stash that no other NBA team would no about.


They are going to take a 32 year old 5'11 guy from Macedonia and call it a night.
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#46 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:43 pm

I know we’ve had 1st cash considerations…But what about 2nd cash considerations?
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#47 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:46 pm

What do we need cash considerations for? It's not like we're hiring a new shooting coach. Maybe a printer?
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#48 » by patryk7754 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:47 pm

Joseph Tugler (Houston PF) and Will Richard (Florida SG) if we are able to get those two, i'd be very satisfied with the draft. They both contain defensive potential (especially Tugler) that could be valuable to playoff teams. With his versatility, athleticism, talent, drive, IQ (individual and team) , and skill on defense, I can see him reaching defensive impact levels close to guys like KG and Noah. Not that I actually see him reaching that peak, but I can definitely see him becoming a type of defender that has an impact so great he's directly responsible for a playoff win or two.
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Re: Shams: Bulls Trade #45 to Lakers for Cash and 55th pick 

Post#49 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:50 pm

Red8911 wrote:Well this was expected but why even take #55 if they don’t even want to draft anyone ?

Also when they say cash consideration, how much cash are we talking ? Why don’t they ever tell us the amount ?


It's literally just cash in the owners pockets. Has no impact on the team, so they would keep that amount secret, otherwise if just sounds like greed. Only time we see how much cash is exchanged is when it's straight up buying a pick.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#50 » by Guru » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:05 pm

Bulls approach is always so deflating. They need to feed the fans some bones sometimes.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#51 » by CobysHairpick » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:06 pm

Cash considerations for 2026 free agency! 4D chess galaxy brain move!
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Re: Round 2 targets 

Post#52 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:07 pm

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i don't think ryan kalkbrenner is gonna fall to 55


Goddamn this team is depressing.

Want to trade it for future 2nds or whatever? Fine. Just worsening your pick for money? Ugh.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#53 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:10 pm

This is the most loathsome org I’ve ever had the displeasure of following.

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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#54 » by Guru » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:14 pm

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Re: Round 2 targets 

Post#55 » by Ballerkingn23 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:19 pm

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We have one roster spot open, but easy way to open more is to move Jevon Carter to a contending team for a future 2nd that never conveys. Or the more difficult decision trade one or multiple of Coby/Lonzo/Vuc for future assets. We're not going to resign Coby next year if we give Giddey $30 million this year. Instead of doing the Bulls move, and holding onto assets for too long until they lose their value, we can be proactive for once. Also, I think people are forgetting about the 2-way slots. Draft someone in the 2nd, and give them the 2 way contract until we ultimately run into injuries and they get a standard NBA contract.



This sounds good. But AK dont make trades.

We should’ve been trade ball he’s still here.

Vuc shouldve been gone and still here.

So I dont know why you trust for them to make any trades for the foreseeable future.

And nobody wants Carter! He’s worthless and making 6 millions too. Nobodies touching that unless we’re given then an asset attached to him and or taking a salary dump.


I don't trust them to do anything. I'm simply stating there are multiple avenues to open up another roster spot, if they see someone in the 2nd they really want.

Carter isn't some trash player. He just didn't work out here. He was a contributor on two contending teams before he came to the Bulls. He simply doesn't have a role here. He can still be a vet who can give spot minutes. $6 million is taxpayer MLE money. It's definitely not a lot of money. Not saying it would be the easiest thing in the world, but it's definitely not some untradeable contract.


Carter's production says otherwise, and I'm merely speaking on how the league views hench why he's still here and not on another team although clearly being out of the rotation. Either way we're stuck with him unless the format as I lead out previously are met, which I doubt el cheapo Jerry or Lazy butt AK will explore.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#56 » by Guru » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:22 pm

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1 Ball 6'6 14/35 7.6p 3.4r 3.3a 1.3s (2) Dosunmu 6'5 26/46 12.3p 3.5r 4.5a (1) Carter 6'1 1/36 4.3p (1)
2 White 6'5 73/74 20.4p 3.7r 4.5a (1) Huerter 6'7 16/26 13.2p 3.3r 3.2a 1.2s (1) Terry 6'7 5/73 4.5p (1)
3 Buzelis 6'10 31/80 8.6p 3.5r (3) Williams 6'8 36/63 9p 3.8r 2a (4) Phillips 6'8 5/79 4.6p 2.1r (2)
4 Essengue 6'10 (4) Smith 6'9 2/64 8.2p 5.6r (2)
5 Vucevic 6'10 72/73 18.5p 10.1r 3.5a (1) Collins 6'11 8/28 8.6p 3.5r (1)

2 open spots

Free Agents
Giddey 6'8 69/70 14.6p 8.1r 7.2a 1.2s
Miller 6'7 0/6
Liddell 6'6 0/12
Jones 6'1 9/18 11.5p 3.2r 4.9a 1.1s
Young 6'1 0/6

If you didn't believe you would be able to use that 2nd rounder it makes sense to trade it. That could mean a couple things. They want Jones back, which they do and or they want space to trade 1 for 2's which they do.

While I would have kept the pick until I saw who was on the board it does make some sense to trade this pick away and or move back and take a stash guy.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#57 » by craigpb » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:28 pm

I'll take anyone as long as they have possibility to become something. Never know which project or 4 yr starter without measurables will be impactful in playoffs down the line.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#58 » by JohnnyTapwater » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:40 pm

It'll be someone we can stash. I'm 90% sure.
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Re: Round 2 Targets 

Post#59 » by Guru » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:56 pm

I think Tre Jones was universally loved here so I assume we are ok with us using that roster spot on him.
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Re: Round 2 targets 

Post#60 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:04 pm

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This sounds good. But AK dont make trades.

We should’ve been trade ball he’s still here.

Vuc shouldve been gone and still here.

So I dont know why you trust for them to make any trades for the foreseeable future.

And nobody wants Carter! He’s worthless and making 6 millions too. Nobodies touching that unless we’re given then an asset attached to him and or taking a salary dump.


I don't trust them to do anything. I'm simply stating there are multiple avenues to open up another roster spot, if they see someone in the 2nd they really want.

Carter isn't some trash player. He just didn't work out here. He was a contributor on two contending teams before he came to the Bulls. He simply doesn't have a role here. He can still be a vet who can give spot minutes. $6 million is taxpayer MLE money. It's definitely not a lot of money. Not saying it would be the easiest thing in the world, but it's definitely not some untradeable contract.


Carter's production says otherwise, and I'm merely speaking on how the league views hench why he's still here and not on another team although clearly being out of the rotation. Either way we're stuck with him unless the format as I lead out previously are met, which I doubt el cheapo Jerry or Lazy butt AK will explore.


He's here, because he picked up his player option which was $6 million guaranteed. No player would turn that down. Regardless it's a moot point as it seems they're going to stash the pick.
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