Orlando Postgame thread

kyrv · Post #41 » by **kyrv** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:58 am

I won't mind a trade, but I wouldn't mind playing the better players first. We got rid of Skiles, now we need to get rid of bad rotations and ween away from bad systems.

Duck does not believe the Bulls try their best to win every game (paraphrasing) - and I agree with him.

Wallace and Duhon are not in the top five Bulls players. If Boylan thinks that, well, he knows more about basketball than we do. Alledgedly.

If Gray/Tyrus/Noah played the same way Wallace does, they wouldn't sniff the court.

Post #42 » by **coldfish** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:58 am

theanimal23 wrote:I'm not rooting for this team. I'm just rooting for the young guys to play -- Tyrus, Noah, Gray, and Thabo. I can care less about anything else. If we win, great, that means the young guys are damn good. And if not, hey we may get lucky and win the lotto.

Just play the kids. Who cares about everything else.

Rooting for the young guys to play

IS

rooting for the team.

Post #43 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:59 am

tyrususi007 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I have to agree D.S.D.
If we lose and i would guess get blown out by miami. that should be the last straw for the season.

I say let the kids play the rest of the season out, or blow it up.

I'm almost done as a bulls fan. I'm not tring to be a fair weather fan, but they arent even trying to win games. I'm glad I didnt buy season tickets this year. I almost did. smart non-investment on my part.

I definitely think so.

When you think about us barely beat an injury riddled Sac at home. A game we probably should have lost. The loss to the Knicks at home. If it wasnt for a meltdown by the Sixers we would have been blown out 3 straight games. In reality we could easily be 0-5 in this stretch.

I mean I remember the Terribull years. But this team/issues surrounding the team, has never been this bad. We have no guidance, no leadership, no direction. Nothing. Its like just an empty feeling right now. We cant even root for the young guys because they dont even play. Its really hard being a bulls fan right now.

tyrususi007 · Post #44 » by **tyrususi007** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:59 am

Red Larrivee wrote:The last straw should have been

Losing to the Knicks Twice (One of them when they lost eight in a row)
Losing to the Sixers at Home
Getting blown out by the Hawks in a No-Contest after the 1st quarter
Barely scoring 60 points against Toronto, in Chicago.
Barely beating a team who had their top 3 players injured. (Sacremento)

The straws are gone, just make a trade.

any crazy straws?????

Post #45 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:59 am

Well, here's my plan:

Resign Gordon and Deng for the full MLE over 6 years. Sure, we overpay, but these guys could be good one day. Jason Kapono good.

Draft say, Brook Lopez, and stay mired in the pit of mediocrity we have dug for ourselves until we choke on it.

Tommy Turtle · Post #46 » by **Tommy Turtle** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:59 am

theanimal23 wrote:I'm not rooting for this team. I'm just rooting for the young guys to play -- Tyrus, Noah, Gray, and Thabo. I can care less about anything else. If we win, great, that means the young guys are damn good. And if not, hey we may get lucky and win the lotto.

Just play the kids. Who cares about everything else.

theanimal23 · Post #47 » by **theanimal23** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:01 am

coldfish wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Rooting for the young guys to play

IS

rooting for the team.

Fine by me. I just don't care about this team or this season at all outside the young guys playing. The last 8 minutes of the game were one of the highlights of the season.

Best game all year was the win vs the Wiz in DC

Nothing matters to me anymore this season. We can lose by 60 with the young guys and I'll take that since they'll play. If we win by 1, I'll be happy. It doesn't matter to me. Sadly, I know if we gave them consistent playing time throughout the year, and I mean around 20mpg, we would be much better and the guys could take the reign and lead us to possibly another level. But whenever Griffin comes in before your top pick, then you know your organization is a mofo joke.

kyrv · Post #48 » by **kyrv** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I definitely think so.

When you think about us barely beat an injury riddled Sac at home. A game we probably should have lost. The loss to the Knicks at home. If it wasnt for a meltdown by the Sixers we would have been blown out 3 straight games. In reality we could easily be 0-5 in this stretch.

I mean I remember the Terribull years. But this team/issues surrounding the team, has never been this bad. We have no guidance, no leadership, no direction. Nothing. Its like just an empty feeling right now. We cant even root for the young guys because they
dont even play. Its really hard being a bulls fan right now.

Yes the Sac and Phillly are both bad wins because it hurts us lottery-wise and a two game lower win total in my opinion would more accurately relfect how the team has played. For example Boylan is 5-5, on the surface, sounds okay, but....it's not okay.

Action Paxson · Post #49 » by **Action Paxson** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:03 am

I put something completely absurd on the Trade Board.

JackFinn · Post #50 » by **JackFinn** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:03 am

Bulls Jones wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

My first thought was Maker's Mark, but it feels like a Patron night.

You're a wild one, you. :thumbsup

Post #51 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:05 am

kyrv wrote:I won't mind a trade, but I wouldn't mind playing the better players first. We got rid of Skiles, now we need to get rid of bad rotations and ween away from bad systems.

Duck does not believe the Bulls try their best to win every game (paraphrasing) - and I agree with him.

Wallace and Duhon are not in the top five Bulls players. If Boylan thinks that, well, he knows more about basketball than we do. Alledgedly.

If Gray/Tyrus/Noah played the same way Wallace does, they wouldn't sniff the court.

I actually think thats the hidden message from Pax. He already said Boylan will be the interim guy till the end of the year. He has already packed it in. I dont know if you have seen an interim guy come in and lead a team to the playoffs. It rarely happens. Thats why hes called interim.

Pax has to realize that he is not going to get a new philosophy with this team with Boylan. Thats like firing Phil Jackson and not liking the triangle for your team, but you promote Jim Clemens or Tex Winter. Makes absolutely no sense. So maybe im thinking it was other stuff concerning Scott why he was let go. Maybe Scott wanted out.

Ben Wilson25 · Post #52 » by **Ben Wilson25** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:18 am

jack finn wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You're a wild one, you. :thumbsup

OK, you got me. Half a bottle of Boone's Farm that was opened a month ago.

ikeziskash · Post #53 » by **ikeziskash** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:19 am

I am in and have been in the camp who wants to tank and play the youth. Who is NOT in?

AirP. · Post #54 » by **AirP.** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:20 am

Can we get a vote on the starting lineups and have Duck take the results to Boylan/Paxson?

CousinOfDeath · Post #55 » by **CousinOfDeath** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:27 am

Trade everyone on our team accept Noah, Tyrus, Gray and Thabo for Kobe.

Thabo
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: No one

Next year:

Derrick Rose
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: Thabo

Championship.

fudgie · Post #56 » by **fudgie** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:36 am

Wow, I'm glad I missed this one. Real gald. Like, holy ****, what the **** happened, kind of glad.

I expect tomorrow's Heat game to be one of the most brutally ugly games of the year.

*Sigh* This season sucks.......play the youngsters......kill Wallace.....etc.

girlygirl · Post #57 » by **girlygirl** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:16 am

Brando13 wrote:Trade everyone on our team accept Noah, Tyrus, Gray and Thabo for Kobe.

Thabo
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: No one

Next year:

Derrick Rose
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: Thabo

Championship.

Did you forget that Kobe has a no-trade clause? No way he agrees to that...

By the way, Lakers are in FIRST place in the West

fabio · Post #58 » by **fabio** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:17 am

Brando13 wrote:Trade everyone on our team accept Noah, Tyrus, Gray and Thabo for Kobe.

Thabo
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: No one

Next year:

Derrick Rose
Kobe
Tyrus
Noah
Gray

Bench: Thabo

Championship.

So the plan is to tank 2 years in a row? :wink:

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #59 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:34 am

As if I needed any more evidence - Ben Wallace just doesn't **** care. He's the Jerome James of the Bulls, only he is making 3 times as much

I stopped counting at ten the number of times Ben stood around flat footed while a defender flew past him or a rebound went another way.

I'd Nancy Kerrigan his ass if I wasn't afraid I'd end up in Federal "slam you in the ass" prison. I'm sick to my stomach, and the Ketel One isn't helping...

HINrichPolice · Post #60 » by **HINrichPolice** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:41 am

There was a game back in 89' or 90' when the Bulls were being
blown out by Charles Barkley and the 76ers.

I was a young kid and didn't understand why the Bulls couldn't make a come back and why they were being beaten so badly for the entire game.

I cried. That's what kids do. It's a result of not understanding what or why things are happening.

I fell asleep right after halftime of tonight's game. I woke up midway to see that the magic went on a 10-0 run.

It was the first time in 7 years that I gave up on a game and turned it off.

I feel like I'm reliving that Bulls/76ers game back in 89' all over again - where nothing makes sense and the only feeling I get after watching the Bulls is helplessness.

We might see things that could change the direction this season is heading, like playing the younger guys more, but in the end, the amount of disappointment is overwhelming.