Omer Asik and Rockets agree to deal 3 years 25 million

[Red Larrivee]

I understand why people are bringing up the Nocioni situation, but saying it's the same thing is wrong. We signed Noc for 5 years. This is a 3 year. That's pretty short term, and his salary is reasonable within the majority of the contract.

I think it's being brought up because the Bulls overvalued a backup SF because of his intangibles, hard-work ethic and defense, and the contract blew up in their face from Day 1. Nocioni signed a six-year, $45M contract. It was easily one of the worst contracts in Bulls history.

And for those bringing up that we got Salmons and Miller out of it, once we dealt Nocioni with Gooden, you can't always bank on the stupidity of a team like the Kings to bail you out when looking at bad contracts.

[RichardsRival3]

If we can get a first round pick for Asik in a S/T, awesome. If we get nothing for Asik? Oh well, sucks, but it's better than not having to pay that last year.

You're not paying Asik's salary. The Bulls are.

And our Jew owner isn't paying the tax.

So you better love Asik.

Really is that necessary?

[Rerisen]

It's not like the money saved is going to magically be used to bring over a $5mil a year scorer. 5 million a year gets you a player like kyle korver.

A 5m player whose improvement over Rip Hamilton and Butler (or just bringing back Kyle) does not even make up the loss of Omer in impact.

Look at all the 5m targets of last year, JR Smith, Jamal Crawford, Vince Carter, Jason Richardson, none of them were (or would have been) the answer. 5m MLE cannot solve our offensive weaknesses. It's going to take a trade. And for that it will take having assets.

[U boj]

Some team would want Asik at Deadline or in the Summer. Trading him then once we have a long term Backup Center Spot in place would be ideal.

No one is touching that contract.

[Senor Chang]

The bulls should be on the phone "threatening" to match the offer to convince Houston to work out a s&t

[boogydown]

Michael Rosenberg ‏@Rosenberg_Mike
Since Daryl Morey is such a stats guy, I'm sure he knows he offered Omer Asik $57,603 for every NBA point he's scored.

[Red8911]

How long do bulls have to match???

[EastBayFJ]

If the idea is to keep Omer around because you want to trade him because he is an asset, he has to be on a contract that is actually an asset. NO ONE wants to pay Omer $15 million in crazy luxury tax times and no one is going to risk that they can't move that deal for something more appropriate. I don't get why people want to re-create the Knicks where the idea was to keep taking bad contracts, wait until they were expiring, then flip them for average players on bad contracts. Why is this the way people want to build a team?

I have a retained Asik in the final year of his contract and Taj at $8m with the rest of our team ( less Deng ) + 3 draft 1st round draft picks and Mirotic to come and 2 minimum end of bench scrubs for between $75m to $80m cash cost ( including $5m to $6m of L tax penalties

The only holdover of cost in 2015 is Rose, Noah , Butler in RFA , Mirotic, Gibson ( say ) Teague , 3 other 1st roundpicks between now and then + the maturing Charlotte pick

That's around a $48m cost for 10 players and say $12m in cap room assuming a salary cap of say $60m by then

[JDRochholz]

Omer was a HUGE factor for back-to-back best records.....we lose Omer, we lose a giant chunk of our depth.

[DanTown8587]

If the idea is to keep Omer around because you want to trade him because he is an asset, he has to be on a contract that is actually an asset. NO ONE wants to pay Omer $15 million in crazy luxury tax times and no one is going to risk that they can't move that deal for something more appropriate. I don't get why people want to re-create the Knicks where the idea was to keep taking bad contracts, wait until they were expiring, then flip them for average players on bad contracts. Why is this the way people want to build a team?

Bulls aren't re-allocating Asik's money to get the perfect player we need. There's a great chance that if you lose Asik, this results in Korver's option being picked up instead of not being picked up. That's it.

No, but keeping Korver and letting Asik walk won't effect me keeping Noah, Gibson or Deng in a few years and will actually allow me to use the full MLE this year (2012) and next (2013) to sign better talent at a position of serious need (SG).

Yes, the Bulls are a worse team with Korver and a MLE guy over Omer. They're also in SIGNIFICANTLY better financial shape by letting Omer walk. And a team that still has holes needs some flexibility.

[Red Larrivee]

You're not paying Asik's salary. The Bulls are.

The Bulls are my favorite team. Can we kill this half-ass response already? Should Knicks fans have been fine with their payroll when Isiah Thomas and James Dolan were running it into the ground for a crap team? "Well gee it's their money so let them do what they want."

No fan wants to see their team make bad financial decisions. Point blank.

[JDRochholz]

How long do bulls have to match???

July 11-14

[RichardsRival3]

Some team would want Asik at Deadline or in the Summer. Trading him then once we have a long term Backup Center Spot in place would be ideal.

No one is touching that contract.

Well we know at least the Rockets would. Maybe we can get one of their many young PFs in return.

[nitric0]

Damn I really liked Asik. This sucks

[boogydown]

How long do bulls have to match???

July 14 I believe

[U boj]

Why are people against matching acting like the Bulls will keep the same exact roster for the next 3 years? It isn't like we're locking in the roster for the next 3 years at their salaries and we can't make any moves. The Bulls can and will make transactions between now and 2014.

Like what?

How am I supposed to know? I just have a problem with people saying that we're going to be paying x player, y player, and z player these salaries in 2014. How do you even know those same guys are going to be on the roster? Rosters change a LOT in 2 years.

There is nothing out there that makes us closer to winning it all. Trading Deng or Noah for savings/draft picks/inferior players makes the team worse.

[WAYSA]

And our Jew owner isn't paying the tax.

So you better love Asik.

Really is that necessary?[/quote]

He's Jewish. This is a fact. Look it up.

[Helix]

I honestly don't see how this is even a question.

You really don't? I can see why you'd want to keep him... but not even a question?

Look. I love Asik and wish we could keep him. But that 15 million dollar hit is an absolute nuclear warhead for a back up.

And don't think "Oh we can just move him before the hit takes effect." Tell me a team that would take that much on for a guy who has been a back up his whole career in the NBA. Plus, we would likely have to take back roughly the same amount in salary from the other team, which would leave us in the same or worse position.

Not everybody loves Asik as much as we do as Bulls fans.

[freshtrinity46]

I do think the Bulls match this. Very likely imo. Not sure if it'd be such a slam dunk for me though. Everyone always go nuts about expirings, but very rarely if ever do I see any amazing deal come from those situations

Asik can't even catch the ball. How lazy does he get once he's paid? He may already have issues when it comes to the mental aspect of the game. It's going to be annoying to hear his salary brought up every second if he's terrible in that 3rd year.

[LoveDaBoo]

I always find it funny when a players contract changes the fans perception on the players impact on the court, like the money is coming from your pocket. Be a fan.

This is RealGM, not RealBigHomer.