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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#401 » by DxC17 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:41 am

BullsFTW wrote:Wendell Carter Jr, while not the most athletetic out of all the other bigs, probably has the most skills. We know he can score inside, shoot, rebound, and defend.

But the one skill he has that people tend to forget is his ability to pass. He's probably a big reason why Bagley had a productive season. Now imagine pairing him with Lauri, they're going to look great and feed off one another.


His best quality is basketball intelligence and love of the game. He's **** 19 years old. He's not 22-23 and fighting for his second contract already like a few GarPax picks. People who compare WCJ to Portis need to be banned. Wendell Carter Jr loves the game. He also knows how to play it, and from all accounts sounds like he likes structure and coaching.

We got a gem. I'll eat **** if Wendell Carter Jr is not in a Bulls uniform in 5 years.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#402 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:41 am

tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?


I think he is a bit more versatile than Brand. And taller.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#403 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:42 am

tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?

Actually even if you ignore the Duke connection that's actually not a bad comparison. Both of them had very long arms and played pretty hard and crafty could do a variety of stuff with both hands. Had a good sense of the moment timing stuff like that.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#404 » by DxC17 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:48 am

tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?



Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Do people seriously forget how good Elton Brand was?
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#405 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:51 am

DxC17 wrote:
tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?



Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Do people seriously forget how good Elton Brand was?


I'm not sure when people bring up Elton and Boozer as comparisons, I'm thinking to insult, that they are comparing Wendall to two All-Stars.
Why so serious?
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#406 » by MrFortune3 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:54 am

I would love an Elton Brand with legit young talent around him.
WCJ and Lauri is a good front court pairing. Adding a healthy LaVine to that along with Dunn and Hutchinson is nice.

That is a solid building block and we can continue to add young pieces going into next years draft. Should have 1 last down year that brings us a solid 10-14 pick with more player development.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#407 » by Onibuh » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:54 am

WCJ knows how to Play with a "star" 4 next to him and he will be a good Player. It's the safe pick and not the sexy one. It's how you build winners. Just hope they hit their ceilings and Star FAs will see a good Young Team that will have more than enough Cap Space.
I wonder if RoLo will be a good Mentor for him.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#408 » by qianlong » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:56 am

Very disappointed. I hope the best and will cheer for him, but we really fell short. I thought this was a very good draft with several good options but we were just outside the bubble and were not able to move up. Also sad about not being able to trade for bridges at 10.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#409 » by the ultimates » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:57 am

If WCJ averages 20 and 10 for nine straight seasons like Brand sign me up all day every day. Forget the other so-called sexy picks or always seeking high upside if he does that, that makes him a star player. A lot of Bamba and JJJ's star potential or upside is wrapped up in them getting better offensively. Carter is roughly the same age and way ahead of either offensively.
Losing to get high draft picks and hoping they turn into franchise players is not some next level, genius move. That's what teams want to happen in any rebuild/tank or whatever you want to market it as.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#410 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:58 am

can Carter be LEGIT NBA center with his size or he is more suitable to be PF and Lauri moves to 5?
Please someone reply who watched WCJ ,not some clueless fan who cant even compare players..
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#411 » by DxC17 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:04 am

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DxC17 wrote:
tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?



Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Do people seriously forget how good Elton Brand was?


I'm not sure when people bring up Elton and Boozer as comparisons, I'm thinking to insult, that they are comparing Wendall to two All-Stars.


Most fans have zero idea about what they're talking about.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#412 » by tunit213 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:05 am

Onibuh wrote:WCJ knows how to Play with a "star" 4 next to him and he will be a good Player. It's the safe pick and not the sexy one. It's how you build winners. Just hope they hit their ceilings and Star FAs will see a good Young Team that will have more than enough Cap Space.
I wonder if RoLo will be a good Mentor for him.


Makes you think Pax is building this team around Lauri.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#413 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:11 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:can Carter be LEGIT NBA center with his size or he is more suitable to be PF and Lauri moves to 5?
Please someone reply who watched WCJ ,not some clueless fan who cant even compare players..

Oh he's absolutely a legit Center. The only thing that would make you think twice is that he's only 6 foot 10 which is not really short at all but he has really long arms so he has good wingspan very good wingspan in fact he's like within an inch of Ayton. Probably has good standing reach also. And he has a good strong body. He can protect the rim and score in the post. He is most definitely a true Center.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#414 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:13 am

I used to criticize Krause hard for that Elton Brand trade but over the years of watching the types of teams that have been contending for titles now and in the past…

…Krause was right. Well the idea was. The execution obviously wasn't. But yeah, what are you really going to achieve when one of your max slots is going to Elton Brand?
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#415 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:13 am

League Circles wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:can Carter be LEGIT NBA center with his size or he is more suitable to be PF and Lauri moves to 5?
Please someone reply who watched WCJ ,not some clueless fan who cant even compare players..

Oh he's absolutely a legit Center. The only thing that would make you think twice is that he's only 6 foot 10 which is not really short at all but he has really long arms so he has good wingspan very good wingspan in fact he's like within an inch of Ayton. Probably has good standing reach also. And he has a good strong body. He can protect the rim and score in the post. He is most definitely a true Center.


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Post#416 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:18 am

Leslie Forman wrote:I used to criticize Krause hard for that Elton Brand trade but over the years of watching the types of teams that have been contending for titles now and in the past…

…Krause was right. Well the idea was. The execution obviously wasn't. But yeah, what are you really going to achieve when one of your max slots is going to Elton Brand?
I liked brand and I thought Krause was a good thinker but I support at trade. I think Tyson Chandler had a better career. Obviously not as good of a scorer but Tyson Chandler has been at or near the very top of the league in Rim protection defense and rebounding literally forever. He's still rather solid at it and he's almost been in the league for 20 years. He was legitimately the second best player on an NBA championship team. As for what are you going to win if you're paying Max salary to a guy like Elton brand? Well that all depends on how fortunate and smart or dumb you are with the rest of your roster. There's no reason you can't pay two or three guys Max salary and if Elton brand is your third best player you have a very good chance to be a very very good contending team.

Also it was a very different situation back then because I'm pretty certain that they did not have restricted free agency following your 3rd year the players actually became unrestricted free agents. And allegedly brand was probably going to leave after his 3rd year so we traded him for an elite Prospect rather than risk losing him for nothing A year later.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#417 » by the ultimates » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:21 am

Leslie Forman wrote:I used to criticize Krause hard for that Elton Brand trade but over the years of watching the types of teams that have been contending for titles now and in the past…

…Krause was right. Well the idea was. The execution obviously wasn't. But yeah, what are you really going to achieve when one of your max slots is going to Elton Brand?


For his first nine seasons Brand was 20 and 10 and a good defensive player. In seven seasons with the Clippers he had a PER 23.4 and TS% of .569. He was traded not because the Bulls felt they couldn't win with him or build around him its because he wanted out. He told Krause he wouldn't resign after his rookie deal expired. There was no RFA for rookies at so the Bulls if they didn't trade him they would have been left with nothing. Krause, Brand and Brand's agent at the time David Falk all confirmed it.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#418 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:26 am

the ultimates wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:I used to criticize Krause hard for that Elton Brand trade but over the years of watching the types of teams that have been contending for titles now and in the past…

…Krause was right. Well the idea was. The execution obviously wasn't. But yeah, what are you really going to achieve when one of your max slots is going to Elton Brand?


For his first nine seasons Brand was 20 and 10 and a good defensive player. In seven seasons with the Clippers he had a PER 23.4 and TS% of .569. He was traded not because the Bulls felt they couldn't win with him or build around him its because he wanted out. He told Krause he wouldn't resign after his rookie deal expired. There was no RFA for rookies at so the Bulls if they didn't trade him they would have been left with nothing. Krause, Brand and Brand's agent at the time David Falk all confirmed it.

Yes I'm very aware that Elton Brand put up numbers.

What I'm saying is…I don't really care. Relying on Elton Brands aren't how you win titles.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#419 » by LordBaldric » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:28 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
DxC17 wrote:
tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?



Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Do people seriously forget how good Elton Brand was?


I'm not sure when people bring up Elton and Boozer as comparisons, I'm thinking to insult, that they are comparing Wendall to two All-Stars.

Are those guys All-Stars in the current era of space and pace though? These days if a big isn't a really good defender, his scoring efficiency has to be elite to justify his spot. Elton and Boozer are dinosaurs.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#420 » by HomoSapien » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:30 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
DxC17 wrote:
tripledabull wrote:Elton Brand 2.0?



Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Do people seriously forget how good Elton Brand was?


I'm not sure when people bring up Elton and Boozer as comparisons, I'm thinking to insult, that they are comparing Wendall to two All-Stars.


I don't think the Brand comparison was an insult.
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