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GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2

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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#401 » by TheEndIsNigh » Mon Mar 8, 2021 12:39 am

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Yeah, it's not like Dick Motta or James Johnson or Kerry Wood - Willy just makes me think of Willy the wimp. And his Cadillac coffin.


I think Willy is actually worse in terms or referring to a Penis than anyone's name, because you've changed his name to turn it into a penis joke.


No, I meant that like Duck, I've never heard of it referred to as a willy. DM and JJ and KW, obvious jokes in the making. But not willy for me, either.

Of course it's too late now, you guys already cancelled Duck so he'll probably never be back



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Post#402 » by FriedRise » Mon Mar 8, 2021 1:34 am

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Post#403 » by PaKii94 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 1:44 am

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Post#404 » by CobyWhite0 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 2:12 am

TheEndIsNigh wrote:
CobyWhite0 wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
I think Willy is actually worse in terms or referring to a Penis than anyone's name, because you've changed his name to turn it into a penis joke.


No, I meant that like Duck, I've never heard of it referred to as a willy. DM and JJ and KW, obvious jokes in the making. But not willy for me, either.

Of course it's too late now, you guys already cancelled Duck so he'll probably never be back



What is wrong with P-Dub?


Huh? I never said anything about P-Dub?
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#405 » by CaPiTanAK » Mon Mar 8, 2021 2:41 am

It seems that PWill has an elite work ethic unlike the GarPax bums on this team. That bodes well for him reaching his potential.
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Post#406 » by Wingy » Mon Mar 8, 2021 3:22 am

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Wingy wrote:I worry that he has been given too much, too soon in terms of minutes. I get the pluses of development, and learning through mistakes.

Yet that’s also a risk if it leads to a softening of his work ethic, and gives him any kind of sense of entitlement. Subconsciously that is. I don’t think he’d make an intentional choice to throttle back.

Seems like he gets time no matter what, and that’s risky if it’s not managed the right way. Depends on who he is, and how he shows up to work behind the scenes too...but ultimately, it’s a league of results. I’d like to see his time reduced, in hopes of lighting a fire that he seems to lack by most accounts.


There isn’t any indication that he “lacks fire” to improve. Don’t confuse that with instances of in-game reluctance.

As for what he’s been given, he’s starting and playing 28 minutes a game. It’s significant exposure for a 19 year old, I agree. But the gross minute numbers are offset by the role he plays which is essentially 5th wheel.

The Bulls have taken an unusual approach with Willy, which is giving him the minutes, but significantly reducing his role. Had they brought him off the bench with limited minutes, but used those minutes to give him a bigger role when he’s in, I don’t think anyone would say he’s being gifted anything. But the approaches are similar despite their differences in my view.

It’s unique. And it has its ups and downs. But I like the approach. I also liked the approach with White last year, which was to do the opposite. Different things can make sense for different prospects.

I’d also add that some of this “entitlement” may also stem from injuries to OPJ, Lauri and Hutch being AWOL. BD has limited options anyway. He may have made Willy “earn it” more or reduced his role had the roster been healthier.


I'm not confusing anything, as I am talking about in-game aggressiveness only. As I said, what he's doing away from the eyes of fans may very well be what's keeping him on the court. His improvement, and work since college over only a few months was noted by many here. My fear may be completely unfounded, but it worries me that this huge asset (work ethic) could get dulled by too many "meh" minutes w/o any playing time repercussions.

I don't look so much at the role as you appear to...I just don't see it that way, and presume that's a matter of folks' worldview. You're on the floor. You have an opportunity to make some plays, or not. There are guys that make entire careers w/o a single play drawn up for them.

Agree re: limited options that could certainly be a factor. I almost mentioned that in my post, but in haste, skipped it.

I agree with the general crew here that I've always found the "Willy" name odd...but at least humorous too. I'm glad you relented there. :lol: Lastly, we both like Willy, Patrick, Pat, Pat Will, PWill, Patrick Williams, whatever you wanna call him (I'm not a huge fan of the whole Stacey King Paw bla bla either)..a lot. I have high hopes that he's a core piece. Think this is just a difference of opinion on how best to raise him. It's complete conjecture by us as fans, and an inexact science for even those closest (Billy, AKME...and oh man...writing this last line just made "Billy & Willy" show up in my brain for the very first time).
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Post#407 » by HouseOfLight » Mon Mar 8, 2021 3:41 am

....Willy is the name of an 8 year old mouth breathing beanpole lol
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Post#408 » by kodo » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:56 am

CaPiTanAK wrote:It seems that PWill has an elite work ethic unlike the GarPax bums on this team. That bodes well for him reaching his potential.

Lavine is well known for his work ethic. Or did you just mean the GarPax draft picks?
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Post#409 » by sco » Mon Mar 8, 2021 1:17 pm

I thought that his middle name started with an A, and that's what gave secondary fuel to Paw, but alas it's Lee.
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Post#410 » by sco » Mon Mar 8, 2021 1:17 pm

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man, that release is slow. :wink:
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Post#411 » by gardenofsound » Mon Mar 8, 2021 2:57 pm

If/when he becomes a lockdown defender, I think District 9 would be a good nickname.

Or a Matrix reference... the Red Pill... the unpleasant reality he will expose upon his opponents and their fans.

Just calling him Patrick reminds me of Spongebob.
Pat reminds me of the SNL character.
P-Will... ever since A-Rod the First Initial / First syllable of last name nickname scheme is just tired.
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Post#412 » by ImSlower » Mon Mar 8, 2021 3:26 pm

Nicknames aren't mandatory, nor are they always organic. One might stick on Williams, especially as he develops more of a game. I'm fine with PW (which works better if you're a P-Dubya type not a P-Double-You) or P-Will. If there's a unique nickname for him in the wings, more power to him.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#413 » by HouseOfLight » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:49 pm

sco wrote:I thought that his middle name started with an A, and that's what gave secondary fuel to Paw, but alas it's Lee.


Again, it isn’t “paw”, that isn’t the name. It’s THE PAW, obviously in reference to his humongous hands being able to Palm the ball like a polar bear paw.

It’s actually disturbing how difficult it is for this fanbase to grasp. Like did people not see the play where King coined it? :o :crazy:
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#414 » by Bulliever2020 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:53 pm

The PAW is cringeworthy to me. Can we get a nickname for the kid that isn't a ripoff or related to Kawhi in any way?
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#415 » by Dieselbound&Down » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:21 pm

sco wrote:
FriedRise wrote:
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man, that release is slow. :wink:


Holy smokes, you're right. :o Hopefully this was early and he was just getting warmed up.

I get why Donovan seems to like this kid. He seems like a worker who has a chance to maximize his physical gifts.
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Post#416 » by ZOMG » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:31 pm

ImSlower wrote:Nicknames aren't mandatory, nor are they always organic. One might stick on Williams, especially as he develops more of a game. I'm fine with PW (which works better if you're a P-Dubya type not a P-Double-You) or P-Will. If there's a unique nickname for him in the wings, more power to him.


Williams should inquire if Lauri has some of those rookie year "alpha dude" nicknames for sale. They haven't been getting much use.

It'd be great if Patrick purchased "The Finnisher" from Markkanen for $500. I'm sure Finland would grant him honorary citizenship.
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Post#417 » by madvillian » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:05 pm

ZOMG wrote:
ImSlower wrote:Nicknames aren't mandatory, nor are they always organic. One might stick on Williams, especially as he develops more of a game. I'm fine with PW (which works better if you're a P-Dubya type not a P-Double-You) or P-Will. If there's a unique nickname for him in the wings, more power to him.


Williams should inquire if Lauri has some of those rookie year "alpha dude" nicknames for sale. They haven't been getting much use.

It'd be great if Patrick purchased "The Finnisher" from Markkanen for $500. I'm sure Finland would grant him honorary citizenship.


lol, maybe he should try to create a Non Fungible Token for a nickname. For real, buddy bought a top shotz pack for $30 and already has made 200 bucks selling worthless **** highlights.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#418 » by Dez » Tue Mar 9, 2021 1:47 am

May as well just call him Penis given that's what people think when someone says Willy.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#419 » by Indomitable » Tue Mar 9, 2021 5:35 am

TheEndIsNigh wrote:
CobyWhite0 wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
I think Willy is actually worse in terms or referring to a Penis than anyone's name, because you've changed his name to turn it into a penis joke.


No, I meant that like Duck, I've never heard of it referred to as a willy. DM and JJ and KW, obvious jokes in the making. But not willy for me, either.

Of course it's too late now, you guys already cancelled Duck so he'll probably never be back



What is wrong with P-Dub?

I hate the name Willy. I just ignored it but his name is not willy. Who shortens a last name. Pat yes
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#420 » by CobyWhite0 » Tue Mar 9, 2021 6:04 am

Indomitable wrote:
TheEndIsNigh wrote:
CobyWhite0 wrote:
No, I meant that like Duck, I've never heard of it referred to as a willy. DM and JJ and KW, obvious jokes in the making. But not willy for me, either.

Of course it's too late now, you guys already cancelled Duck so he'll probably never be back



What is wrong with P-Dub?

I hate the name Willy. I just ignored it but his name is not willy. Who shortens a last name. Pat yes


You're a fan of the wrong team with the wrong current roster to ask that question... ;)

...and he has two different names from shortening his last name

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