Dennis Schroder, Lonzo Ball, Reggie Jackson, Dinwiddie, Cameron Payne, Lowry, take your pick

[Chi town]

I keep coming back to the $18.7M figure we can reach in cap space by:

Not picking up the option on Arcidiacano
Stretching Aminu
Trading Sato for pure cap space
Renouncing all free agents except for Theis

Is the best use of $18.7M to put it all towards one player like Ball?

Is $18.7 enough to get both Nunn and Bullock? Or some other combination of 2 players?

What would you do with $18.7M in cap space and a roster of:

White/
LaVine/Brown
Williams
Theis/Young
Vucevic/Theis/Simonivic

Ball with a starting salary of 18.7M. Then trade Thad for space to get Bullock and resign Temple.

[drosestruts]

I keep coming back to the $18.7M figure we can reach in cap space by:

Not picking up the option on Arcidiacano
Stretching Aminu
Trading Sato for pure cap space
Renouncing all free agents except for Theis

Is the best use of $18.7M to put it all towards one player like Ball?

Is $18.7 enough to get both Nunn and Bullock? Or some other combination of 2 players?

What would you do with $18.7M in cap space and a roster of:

White/
LaVine/Brown
Williams
Theis/Young
Vucevic/Theis/Simonivic

Ball with a starting salary of 18.7M. Then trade Thad for space to get Bullock and resign Temple.

I feel the motivation to trade Thad comes from too much looking ahead, yes Thad is old and not some core piece moving forward, but he was really good last year, and hopefully can be very good for us again this season.

If we have goals of making the playoffs next season, we'll need Thad Young. He's not so easily replaced.

[CubbyBear2290]

Though, I know this board may not agree. My opinion of the point guard position and their target is this. I think and have thought for some time that the Lonzo Ball rumors while they may have legs may be more Klutch Sports driven and more sizzle than actual steak. And with the movement of salary by the Pels. It makes me believe that while they are reportedly interested in Lowry, Zion and BI have stated how they would like to continue playing with Lonzo. That matters. Much more than I think anyone is caring to admit.

So, as it stands I believe there is a ton to the Dennis Schroder interest. Call it a hunch. We know he has a history with Billy D and fills a role and is likely attainable, starting PG with talent. That being said, much to the dismay of many Bulls' fans and this board. I think Schroder is like the guy who the Bulls tab and ultimately bring in.

[weneeda2guard]

Though, I know this board may not agree. My opinion of the point guard position and their target is this. I think and have thought for some time that the Lonzo Ball rumors while they may have legs may be more Klutch Sports driven and more sizzle than actual steak. And with the movement of salary by the Pels. It makes me believe that while they are reportedly interested in Lowry, Zion and BI have stated how they would like to continue playing with Lonzo. That matters. Much more than I think anyone is caring to admit.

So, as it stands I believe there is a ton to the Dennis Schroder interest. Call it a hunch. We know he has a history with Billy D and fills a role and is likely attainable, starting PG with talent. That being said, much to the dismay of many Bulls' fans and this board. I think Schroder is like the guy who the Bulls tab and ultimately bring in.

Shroder would have never turned down that laker deal unless he understood there were deals on the table for him

My personal opinion is , it's not 1 target. I think they have a plan a, b and c and even d. I think they know Lowry is off the table imo

I think plan a is lonzo
I think plan b is Schroder
I think plan c is a trade for kemba walker
And I think plan d is rose.

[BullChit]

What if AKME did the old GarPax standard and Stood Pat.

Where would that leave us for the next Free Agency and next season lotto odds.

Not advocating for that I'm on Team Lonzo but I'd be interested to see some of the more team finances savy posters discuss if that's a viable option.

[drosestruts]

What if AKME did the old GarPax standard and Stood Pat.

Where would that leave us for the next Free Agency and next season lotto odds.

Not advocating for that I'm on Team Lonzo but I'd be interested to see some of the more team finances savy posters discuss if that's a viable option.

If we stand pat, and add a bunch of 1-year deals to round out the roster this season and go into next offseason with contracts to only:

Vuc
Williams
White

And the cap hold on LaVine

We'd have around $40M in cap space depending on what pick we have.

2022 is also a much better free agent class: Durant, Harden, Curry, Beal, Butler, Kawhi, Kyrie, Smart, Warren, Luka, JJJ, Boucher, Trae, Sexton, Bridges, Porter Jr (the Michael variety), Rozier, Rubio

[sco]

What if AKME did the old GarPax standard and Stood Pat.

Where would that leave us for the next Free Agency and next season lotto odds.

Not advocating for that I'm on Team Lonzo but I'd be interested to see some of the more team finances savy posters discuss if that's a viable option.

If we stand pat, and add a bunch of 1-year deals to round out the roster this season and go into next offseason with contracts to only:

Vuc
Williams
White

And the cap hold on LaVine

We'd have around $40M in cap space depending on what pick we have.

2022 is also a much better free agent class: Durant, Harden, Curry, Beal, Butler, Kawhi, Kyrie, Smart, Warren, Luka, JJJ, Boucher, Trae, Sexton, Bridges, Porter Jr (the Michael variety), Rozier, Rubio

It's a good plan that Doug has been putting out there. We just need to use the MLE to find a lesser PG upgrade for a guy who might do a 1 year deal for the starting gig, but those are guys like McConnell (who'd I'd be happy with), Payne, or Caruso, etc.

[ATRAIN53]

LeBron rejected Schroeder and Ball.

Ball might have been more of a throw in in the AD trade- but if LA wanted to keep him LeBron would have found a way.

LA Could just straight up sign Scroeder if LeBron wanted him, they could make money work and smart players do take discounts to play and win with LeBron. Doesn't want him.

Jackson was on another level in the playoffs. He's 32 but he may have just figured it out.
I'm surprised if the Clippers let him go, that guy looked like a key piece of their little core to me, even if they have some young cheap guys like Mann.


3 years of Ball to Chicago rumors. I'll be shocked if we don't end up with him.

[MGB8]

What if AKME did the old GarPax standard and Stood Pat.

Where would that leave us for the next Free Agency and next season lotto odds.

Not advocating for that I'm on Team Lonzo but I'd be interested to see some of the more team finances savy posters discuss if that's a viable option.

If we stand pat, and add a bunch of 1-year deals to round out the roster this season and go into next offseason with contracts to only:

Vuc
Williams
White

And the cap hold on LaVine

We'd have around $40M in cap space depending on what pick we have.

2022 is also a much better free agent class: Durant, Harden, Curry, Beal, Butler, Kawhi, Kyrie, Smart, Warren, Luka, JJJ, Boucher, Trae, Sexton, Bridges, Porter Jr (the Michael variety), Rozier, Rubio

It's a good plan that Doug has been putting out there. We just need to use the MLE to find a lesser PG upgrade for a guy who might do a 1 year deal for the starting gig, but those are guys like McConnell (who'd I'd be happy with), Payne, or Caruso, etc.

Can you do a 1 year MLE? I thought it had to be 3 for some reason.

[Poohdini1]

Has to be Zo. His playmaking & defense perfectly compliments Zach.

[MGB8]

LeBron rejected Schroeder and Ball.

Ball might have been more of a throw in in the AD trade- but if LA wanted to keep him LeBron would have found a way.

LA Could just straight up sign Scroeder if LeBron wanted him, they could make money work and smart players do take discounts to play and win with LeBron. Doesn't want him.

Jackson was on another level in the playoffs. He's 32 but he may have just figured it out.
I'm surprised if the Clippers let him go, that guy looked like a key piece of their little core to me, even if they have some young cheap guys like Mann.


3 years of Ball to Chicago rumors. I'll be shocked if we don't end up with him.

Rumors are just that, though. Don't necessarily have much of anything behind them. Granted, the Pat Williams rumor broke just before the draft last year, so anything that breaks this week or over the weekend might be worth taking more seriously (Schroder), but until we see something from a more serious source, or basically a done deal (like the surprise Memphis/New Orleans trade)...

[Andi Obst]

Can you do a 1 year MLE? I thought it had to be 3 for some reason.

You can definitely do 2 years with the second year being a team or player option.

RFA contracts have to be at least a 2+1, maybe that's what you're thinking of.

[TheHrvReport]

I'm actually fine with Schroder if we can get him for 20-22 million. He's a clear upgrade over White, can defend well at his position, gets to the line about 4x more than Lonzo and has underrated vision (watch some of his highlights). He's also 27 and about to enter his prime so he should be better than what he has shown thus far. I think he should play up to his contract so he can also be moved if we think we can sign a big FA next season.

[Andi Obst]

I'm actually fine with Schroder if we can get him for 20-22 million. He's a clear upgrade over White, can defend well at his position, gets to the line about 4x more than Lonzo and has underrated vision (watch some of his highlights). He's also 27 and about to enter his prime so he should be better than what he has shown thus far. I think he should play up to his contract so he can also be moved if we think we can sign a big FA next season.

And again: Dennis Schröder is not a good defender. Like not at all. He's fine at the MLE or slightly above. It's like his ridiculous decision to turn down that Lakers offer has tricked people into believing he was actually worth that money (or even more). He was not and he is not.

[DuckIII]

What if AKME did the old GarPax standard and Stood Pat.

Where would that leave us for the next Free Agency and next season lotto odds.

Not advocating for that I'm on Team Lonzo but I'd be interested to see some of the more team finances savy posters discuss if that's a viable option.

Don’t know the precise answer but it would be a lot. Because we won’t have to worry about Lavine’s next deal either because he’ll leave.

[TheHrvReport]

I'm actually fine with Schroder if we can get him for 20-22 million. He's a clear upgrade over White, can defend well at his position, gets to the line about 4x more than Lonzo and has underrated vision (watch some of his highlights). He's also 27 and about to enter his prime so he should be better than what he has shown thus far. I think he should play up to his contract so he can also be moved if we think we can sign a big FA next season.

And again: Dennis Schröder is not a good defender. Like not at all. He's fine at the MLE or slightly above. It's like his ridiculous decision to turn down that Lakers offer has tricked people into believing he was actually worth that money (or even more). He was not and he is not.

I hope you're joking lol

[Andi Obst]

I'm actually fine with Schroder if we can get him for 20-22 million. He's a clear upgrade over White, can defend well at his position, gets to the line about 4x more than Lonzo and has underrated vision (watch some of his highlights). He's also 27 and about to enter his prime so he should be better than what he has shown thus far. I think he should play up to his contract so he can also be moved if we think we can sign a big FA next season.

And again: Dennis Schröder is not a good defender. Like not at all. He's fine at the MLE or slightly above. It's like his ridiculous decision to turn down that Lakers offer has tricked people into believing he was actually worth that money (or even more). He was not and he is not.

I hope you're joking lol

I am not.

[weneeda2guard]

I'm kinda on the "wait til next year" plan as well. I'm not devastated if we make a move this season but most of these prospects feel like overpaying a guy who only getting that deal due to a poor free agent class.

If we wait it out a year, we can bring in a couple of plug ins til next year and we would have full access to our pick as well. We could max out beal or even durant and create a trio then.

2 guys I would get for cheap, I would do a 1+1 deal for rose and make a small deal with dallas for Brunson. Alot of the fans wouldn't understand this though but I would. It's the better course. I also think with rose and Brunson we could still make the playoffs.

[sco]

I'm kinda on the "wait til next year" plan as well. I'm not devastated if we make a move this season but most of these prospects feel like overpaying a guy who only getting that deal due to a poor free agent class.

If we wait it out a year, we can bring in a couple of plug ins til next year and we would have full access to our pick as well. We could max out beal or even durant and create a trio then.

2 guys I would get for cheap, I would do a 1+1 deal for rose and make a small deal with dallas for Brunson. Alot of the fans wouldn't understand this though but I would. It's the better course. I also think with rose and Brunson we could still make the playoffs.

NFW is Dallas trading Brunson. He's great, and they know it. Only way would be if we "paid-up" for the unicorn too.

[TheSuzerain]

Schroeder is in the group with Eric Bledsoe where I wouldn't want them on the team even if they were on a vet min contract.