Bears 11.0: Free Agency, College Pro days, Draft & beyond

[Dresden]

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

I’d take that bet. He finished the second half of his last season here playing really well. Played better than really well with a winning record with the Steelers. And if anyone has a good idea about what fields can do, I would think the guy who coached against him for a few years would.

I saw enough of Fields in his 3 years here. So frustrating watching him hold onto the ball forever, then take off running time after time. I don't think he's a winning QB, unless you have a really good defense and just want to run the ball a lot and try to win games where neither team breaks 20 points.

[Betta Bulleavit]

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

You don’t pay 20M a year for a guy that you plan on benching. Fields wasn’t “great” in the six games that he played for the Steelers. But he was decent/good and led them to a 4-2 mark, which is an indicator that his arrow is still very much pointing up. Remember, the guy we fired the day after Thanksgiving is the same guy that Fields spent his last two seasons here playing under. The same line that we’re overhauling….yeah.

[Dresden]

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

You don’t pay 20M a year for a guy that you plan on benching. Fields wasn’t “great” in the six games that he played for the Steelers. But he was decent/good and led them to a 4-2 mark, which is an indicator that his arrow is still very much pointing up. Remember, the guy we fired the day after Thanksgiving is the same guy that Fields spent his last two seasons here playing under. The same line that we’re overhauling….yeah.

Well, my hunch is that playing for a better coach, with a better off. line isn't going to make all that much difference, and the same flaws he had while he was here will eventually lead to his benching in NY. But we'll see.

[nomorezorro]

it's a free message board and all but i truly cannot imagine caring to argue about justin fields in the year 2025

[fleet]

I’m feeling like from what I am reading, the Jarret signing is an overpay when it comes down to projection of what he’s bringing at his age. I don’t quite get it. Hopefully it’s not a contract the Bears need to dump in a year or 2

The cap goes up every year and lots of teams have cap space, so I’m fine with an overpay. The criticism of Bears ownership over the years has been they’re cheap. Let’s spend the cap space we have and build the lines.

Welp, this is the cost of Zacch Pickens flaming out.

[TheSuzerain]

Like the OL signings.

Less crazy about the middle class DL signings. Would have preferred a splash there if we're spending.

Would still go Edge at 10 probably. Or Graham if he somehow slips.

[Dresden]

Like the OL signings.

Less crazy about the middle class DL signings. Would have preferred a splash there if we're spending.

Would still go Edge at 10 probably. Or Graham if he somehow slips.

I could see Edge at 10, but more likely in the second. Should be some decent guys there, and then you could possibly take a LT at 10, or Jeanty.

[Dresden]

Wouldn't be shocked to a few guys get cut now that they've taken on all this salary.

[TheSuzerain]

Like the OL signings.

Less crazy about the middle class DL signings. Would have preferred a splash there if we're spending.

Would still go Edge at 10 probably. Or Graham if he somehow slips.

I could see Edge at 10, but more likely in the second. Should be some decent guys there, and then you could possibly take a LT at 10, or Jeanty.

There's no LTs worth the #10 seemingly.

And there should be a great HB prospects in the 2nd as well (Henderson, Hampton, etc.).

Edge is just super expensive to fill. Would go for one if you like them (e.g. Mykel Williams, Shemar Stewart).

CB also a premium position but seems like people are cooling on Will Johnson?

[nomorezorro]

i'm cool with basically anything at 10 at this point. basically just want us to come away with a couple of the day 2 OL/DL guys that i'm a fan of and i should be happy with our draft

[biggestbullsfan]

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Glad he got paid but was really hoping he would be our DE 3/4

[Jcool0]

it's a free message board and all but i truly cannot imagine caring to argue about justin fields in the year 2025

[Dresden]

Charvarious Ward got 3/60. Yikes!

And Josh Sweat got 4/76. Don't know how well that will look a year from now.

[patryk7754]

Now that it’s clear the bears are not doing a youth movement and are in win now mode, I’m heavily in favor in bringing back Allen. Restructure how ever much money you need to make it happen. He may have dropped off in talent (just slightly) but his experience and having as much consistency as possible will be very beneficial to Williams. Now if his number is 20 plus, let him walk. But, for 15m, I’m bringing him back

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Now that it’s clear the bears are not doing a youth movement and are in win now mode, I’m heavily in favor in bringing back Allen. Restructure how ever much money you need to make it happen. He may have dropped off in talent (just slightly) but his experience and having as much consistency as possible will be very beneficial to Williams. Now if his number is 20 plus, let him walk. But, for 15m, I’m bringing him back

You think old man Keenan Allen at 15 million is an all in win now move? Hes old and he’s unnecessary. New offense will look fine without him we’re not going to miss him on that end of the ball. When you factor in cost and the role he should have it would be grossly overpaying for a not very good 4/5/6 option

[Betta Bulleavit]

Now that it’s clear the bears are not doing a youth movement and are in win now mode, I’m heavily in favor in bringing back Allen. Restructure how ever much money you need to make it happen. He may have dropped off in talent (just slightly) but his experience and having as much consistency as possible will be very beneficial to Williams. Now if his number is 20 plus, let him walk. But, for 15m, I’m bringing him back

You think old man Keenan Allen at 15 million is an all in win now move? Hes old and he’s unnecessary. New offense will look fine without him we’re not going to miss him on that end of the ball. When you factor in cost and the role he should have it would be grossly overpaying for a not very good 4/5/6 option

You think Allen is going to command 15M? I mean, I’ve been all wrong about player values so far. But I didn’t see him getting more than 10 from anyone. But based on what you’re saying, even that may be too much for your taste??

[NZB2323]

Like the OL signings.

Less crazy about the middle class DL signings. Would have preferred a splash there if we're spending.

Would still go Edge at 10 probably. Or Graham if he somehow slips.

I could see Edge at 10, but more likely in the second. Should be some decent guys there, and then you could possibly take a LT at 10, or Jeanty.

There's no LTs worth the #10 seemingly.

And there should be a great HB prospects in the 2nd as well (Henderson, Hampton, etc.).

Edge is just super expensive to fill. Would go for one if you like them (e.g. Mykel Williams, Shemar Stewart).

CB also a premium position but seems like people are cooling on Will Johnson?

If Will Campbell falls to 10 I think we should take him. He may have short arms, but he’s 6’6”, 320, and played great in college.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Now that it’s clear the bears are not doing a youth movement and are in win now mode, I’m heavily in favor in bringing back Allen. Restructure how ever much money you need to make it happen. He may have dropped off in talent (just slightly) but his experience and having as much consistency as possible will be very beneficial to Williams. Now if his number is 20 plus, let him walk. But, for 15m, I’m bringing him back

You think old man Keenan Allen at 15 million is an all in win now move? Hes old and he’s unnecessary. New offense will look fine without him we’re not going to miss him on that end of the ball. When you factor in cost and the role he should have it would be grossly overpaying for a not very good 4/5/6 option

You think Allen is going to command 15M? I mean, I’ve been all wrong about player values so far. But I didn’t see him getting more than 10 from anyone. But based on what you’re saying, even that may be too much for your taste??

Yeah I’m not a fan of him coming back at all, especially when cheaper and younger should be the goal.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

This free agency shouldn’t be a win now scenario if anything it puts more pressure on the draft to sustain all this long term. Poles has to value his draft picks even more now. We should always be trading down acquiring more chances at it. The draft should still be about the trenches those first 4 picks definitely. Poles and Johnson are going older with the roster and now Poles has to hedge his bets with some more kids and keep the pipeline going. Poles hasn’t drafted as well as I’d like but he hasn’t been bad either. I hope he’s learned his lesson and considers the trenches far from finished and that’s where we focus in the draft. Say no to the Jeantys of the world. Show some **** patience for Christ’s sake. People here that want to go all in now did they forgot about our other wheeler dealer GM in Pace? It’s like that never happened and people want to be impulsive about it .

[Dresden]

This free agency shouldn’t be a win now scenario if anything it puts more pressure on the draft to sustain all this long term. Poles has to value his draft picks even more now. We should always be trading down acquiring more chances at it. The draft should still be about the trenches those first 4 picks definitely. Poles and Johnson are going older with the roster and now Poles has to hedge his bets with some more kids and keep the pipeline going. Poles hasn’t drafted as well as I’d like but he hasn’t been bad either. I hope he’s learned his lesson and considers the trenches far from finished and that’s where we focus in the draft. Say no to the Jeantys of the world. Show some **** patience for Christ’s sake. People here that want to go all in now did they forgot about our other wheeler dealer GM in Pace? It’s like that never happened and people want to be impulsive about it .

The problem is we just spent a lot of money on Swift that we can't get rid of. If it weren't for that, I'd be all in on Jeanty right now. From what people say, backs like him don't come around very often. He could get you 1200-1400 yards on the ground, and 3-400 in the air. that's more than a WR will get you. It's tempting to take him, but since we already have Swift, it would be a bit redundant, although as everyone points out, Johnson likes having two running backs.