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BullChit wrote:Muzbar wrote:BullChit wrote:I was really hoping for a vet presence Luke Millsap but now that he is gone I'm really down for some young blood with defensive potential like Vando.
I really think this team needs a Taj Gibson type coming off the bench... somebody who will just out hustle our opponents and give a needed burst of defensive energy.
Haha you're such an Aussie!
Hahaha I honestly couldn't be arsed trying to type his full name...
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:Vonleh Alize Vanderbilt 2 of those 3 would be nice
Muzbar wrote:JohnnyKILLroy wrote:Vonleh Alize Vanderbilt 2 of those 3 would be nice
NoVo is my top choice followed by Vando.
BullChit wrote:Muzbar wrote:JohnnyKILLroy wrote:Vonleh Alize Vanderbilt 2 of those 3 would be nice
NoVo is my top choice followed by Vando.
Haha on that same note but slightly O.T but Lonzo already has an "Aussiefied" name...
After checking 4 sites, including NBA.COM, every one lists him as either 6'7 or 6'8. All 4 of those same sites now list PWill as 6'7" and 215'.MGB8 wrote:Stratmaster wrote:McDermott is 6'8" 225'. Bigger than Pwill. Crowder is 6'6" but is 234'. Even if they didn't include them, the average wouldn't have changed.GoBlue72391 wrote:I agree that we need at least 1 true PF with size to combat bigger lineups to prevent getting bullied as we are very small and lacking frontcourt depth. I've said before, we're one injury or player underperforming away from being forced to play ultra-small ball at all times and that is less than ideal.
As for the average heights, I said as much myself that the 6'8" average is likely a result of half the PFs being shorter and the other half being taller. My main concern with that average though is who exactly was counted as a PF when they calculated that number? If guys like Crowder, Tucker, McDermott, etc. were counted as SFs rather than PFs then that's going to artificially inflate the average height for PFs, so the actual average height could actually be lower than the listed 6'8". It depends on if guys are counted as their natural positions or the positions they've most frequently played in recent years. Like Crowder is a natural SF but he's played more PF in recent years, so what position did they count him as?
It even says in the "notes" section of that article that the data was collected from Basketball-Reference and has a number of shortcomings, including:
- Players are assigned a single position per season. In reality, a lot of players play multiple positions every game. For example, some players start games as a shooting guard but take over point guard duties with a bench unit later
- Height and weight data is registered once per player. This means that the data has Shaq weighing exactly 325lbs every season, and we all know that that’s not true
Based off B-R, guys like Tucker, Crowder, and McDermott's positions are all listed as SF first and other positions second/third, so I assume that data counted those players, and others like them, as SFs rather than PFs when determining the average height for PF, leading to an average of 6'8" that probably isn't all that accurate. I'm of the opinion that they should be counted among the position they have most frequently played in a given season rather than counted among their natural position.
My understanding is BBREF list the player at the position they played the most minutes at. But we are talking past the point.
The Bulls do not have any quality player as big as the AVERAGE PF to play at the 4. And after PWill it ain't even close.
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McDermott is 6’6.25 without shoes. Pat is taller (and has a longer wingspan / better reach)
Stratmaster wrote:After checking 4 sites, including NBA.COM, every one lists him as either 6'7 or 6'8. All 4 of those same sites now list PWill as 6'7" and 215'.MGB8 wrote:Stratmaster wrote:McDermott is 6'8" 225'. Bigger than Pwill. Crowder is 6'6" but is 234'. Even if they didn't include them, the average wouldn't have changed.
My understanding is BBREF list the player at the position they played the most minutes at. But we are talking past the point.
The Bulls do not have any quality player as big as the AVERAGE PF to play at the 4. And after PWill it ain't even close.
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McDermott is 6’6.25 without shoes. Pat is taller (and has a longer wingspan / better reach)
He is bigger than PWill.
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No. I don't.MGB8 wrote:Stratmaster wrote:After checking 4 sites, including NBA.COM, every one lists him as either 6'7 or 6'8. All 4 of those same sites now list PWill as 6'7" and 215'.MGB8 wrote:
McDermott is 6’6.25 without shoes. Pat is taller (and has a longer wingspan / better reach)
He is bigger than PWill.
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You have to look at pre-draft measurements. The rest is garbage. PWill is 6’7 barefoot, McDermott is 6’6.25
ThreeYearPlan wrote:Bulls fans defend HomoSapien more than Rose.
HomoSapien wrote:
This guy's growing on me. Not a big leaper or shot blocker, but I love his activity level. He just has a knack for grabbing rebounds and that'll always make him useful.
Risk Addict wrote:Alize highlight reel was one block and then all scoring. If that’s how he plays he doesn’t fit our need. We have plenty of scorers
drosestruts wrote:Shades of Joe Alexander and Chase Budinger and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
I remain wholly unimpressed by Matas and would be very upset not only if we trade up fo him, but if we even draft him at 11
Electric Slim wrote:Risk Addict wrote:Alize highlight reel was one block and then all scoring. If that’s how he plays he doesn’t fit our need. We have plenty of scorers
Not off the bench