2018 draft 3.0. #7, #22 - Merged

[Ugly Duckling]

Michael Porter Jr GQ article:
https://www.gq.com/story/michael-porter-jr-real-life-diet

GQ: How's the recovery going? How are you feeling?

Michael Porter Jr.: I’ve never felt better. I was in a lot of pain for a while—I had a back injury during my sophomore year, and even before I had my surgery, I was in pain all throughout high school. I always felt like I was playing at between 75 and 80 percent, and never really got back to the point where I should have been.

I came out to Chicago to do all my pre-draft workouts, and that was another one of the reasons I decided to go pro: Now I have the best trainers and chiropractors available, and the one goal is to make me feel 100 percent. I ended up being the top-ranked player in my high school class, but I always was thinking in the back of my head, like, If I didn’t have this pain, I could really be doing some crazy stuff.

What prompted the transition to (mostly) veganism and, soon, to raw veganism?

I was having some back and nerve pain, and was always thinking about what I could do to fix it. I met him through my parents, and he suggested that I try this and see how it makes me feel. If I never had had that back pain, I would have never given this a chance.

Within a couple of days, I noticed a difference with my energy and recovery, and had less soreness after workouts. When you eat the raw diet, it’s a completely anti-inflammatory diet. That’s why many people start to feel old and can’t move as well—their joints begin to get inflamed, and a lot of that is because of how they eat. Dr. Graham is 65, and he's deadlifting and bench-pressing more than I can.

I feel like veganism is a big secret that a lot of professional athletes have caught on to and are using.

How did your body feel after you played those final two games?

I obviously wasn’t ready to play yet, because I was eating differently, I knew I wouldn’t be as good as I felt a few days before, when we were practicing at home. It was disappointing, but it’s helpful for me to learn about how the way I eat affects how I perform. Now that my back pain has gone away, this entire ordeal is going to further my career and my potential.

He will be a star in the NBA if he stays healthy.

Possibly, but prob won't be there at 7. Let someone else take the risk. If he's there at 7 you pull the trigger tho

[Habs72]

He was a better hs player than Bagley and Ayton

What, u think it takes less than a year to regress to Marquis Daniels status?

He also had back surgery and looked awful. He is a gamble.

how would u look after back surgery?

If that would be the case, he shouldnt have even played ...thing is though that he says (in that interview that Hangtime linked) that it was cause of what he ate that he performed bad
"because I was eating differently, I knew I wouldn’t be as good as I felt a few days before, when we were practicing at home".....excuse me? That sounds weird when he is just before it praising how the eating has been the better choice for him . But if he can stay healthy (still big if) im all in.

[GimmeDat]

I think Okobo just blew up - he had 44 on 17 shots. Would be an awesome pick at 22 if he's available, see hin rising beyond that though.

If Phoenix goes Ayton #1 they could roll the dice and get Okobo at 16 since they still need a PG

Could definitely see that happening.

[RastaBull]

Watching Tatum really does make me like the idea of Porter. Not because I think Porter will be Tatum (that's an unfair comparison ... Tatum is proven now).

Just the way that he, as a wing with good size, gets to his spot on the floor to shoot his best shot. That is something I think is easy for Porter too, and something that he can do right away when he gets here.

Porter would obviously need to vastly improve/prove that ability to defend like Tatum ... and too me a lot of that is development that comes with Stevens. I'm not positive we have the type of influences to guide Porter similarly (would love to add another coach with that kind of pedigree).

I think Porter would have a really good year at the rim with the Bulls. Hoiberg wants to play fast and has a PG (Dunn) that's shown he can and likes to get out and push it. I've watched Porter since Junior High, and he can get out and run, and has such great length that getting to the rim on transition is easy. He's going to get a lot of easy buckets.

That's what I love hte most about Tatum's game, he gets easy buckets. He shows a lot of patience and as a big wing knows how to use which moves to take advantage of different mathups (he posts small guys, he dribbles around or step back on bigger guys with worse footskills). That is something I think Hoiberg and our coaches could help Porter develop. But it's important to focus on that and not just let Porter come in and jack up shots.

[bad knees]

I suggest everyone read that article about Porter’s diet. He still was feeling back pain at the end of the season, and it got worse when he played those last few games. It wasn’t rust, it was back pain.

At that point, he was mostly vegan. Now he says he is going to a all raw vegan diet. He says he feels good, but he still has not tested his back in real basketball situations. At this point, he is only doing basketball training for 75 minutes per day.

He’s hopeful that the raw vegan diet will keep the back pain away, but he really doesn’t know.

The scary point is that he was feeling significant back pain four months after his surgery. That’s not good. Doesn’t sound like one would call his surgery a complete success by any means. He’s counting on a raw vegan diet to fix the back pain that his surgery did not fix. Ugh.


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[Truebiscuit]

So if Porter's a ball-stopper like I've read, and LaVine seems like a ball-stopper as well... and Dunn needs the ball in his hands to facilitate... how the hell is that grouping going to work?

[Indomitable]

I suggest everyone read that article about Porter’s diet. He still was feeling back pain at the end of the season, and it got worse when he played those last few games. It wasn’t rust, it was back pain.

At that point, he was mostly vegan. Now he says he is going to a all raw vegan diet. He says he feels good, but he still has not tested his back in real basketball situations. At this point, he is only doing basketball training for 75 minutes per day.

He’s hopeful that the raw vegan diet will keep the back pain away, but he really doesn’t know.

The scary point is that he was feeling significant back pain four months after his surgery. That’s not good. Doesn’t sound like one would call his surgery a complete success by any means. He’s counting on a raw vegan diet to fix the back pain that his surgery did not fix. Ugh.


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Wow

[RememberLu]

I suggest everyone read that article about Porter’s diet. He still was feeling back pain at the end of the season, and it got worse when he played those last few games. It wasn’t rust, it was back pain.

At that point, he was mostly vegan. Now he says he is going to a all raw vegan diet. He says he feels good, but he still has not tested his back in real basketball situations. At this point, he is only doing basketball training for 75 minutes per day.

He’s hopeful that the raw vegan diet will keep the back pain away, but he really doesn’t know.

The scary point is that he was feeling significant back pain four months after his surgery. That’s not good. Doesn’t sound like one would call his surgery a complete success by any means. He’s counting on a raw vegan diet to fix the back pain that his surgery did not fix. Ugh.


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Wow

Why would he think a raw vegan diet would fix his back pain? Who's giving this kid advice? It sounds like he was brainwashed by some quack

[Chicago-Bull-E]

So if Porter's a ball-stopper like I've read, and LaVine seems like a ball-stopper as well... and Dunn needs the ball in his hands to facilitate... how the hell is that grouping going to work?

Just repeat after me: "It's ok to have more than one scorer on the team..."

[Indomitable]

He was a better hs player than Bagley and Ayton

What, u think it takes less than a year to regress to Marquis Daniels status?

He also had back surgery and looked awful. He is a gamble.

how would u look after back surgery?



he put up 14 & 9 in limited minutes. now, imagine if he wasn't coming off surgery.

Am I trying to get drafted?

This is just a stupid statement. I said he has not been able to play or compete in a year. He is still struggling to get his health back.

Did I claim I am the best NBA prospect.

He was bad and in pain. He has done nothing in the last year to make me say we should draft him. Back problems can be for ever.

[Truebiscuit]

So if Porter's a ball-stopper like I've read, and LaVine seems like a ball-stopper as well... and Dunn needs the ball in his hands to facilitate... how the hell is that grouping going to work?

Just repeat after me: "It's ok to have more than one scorer on the team..."

Let's take it a step further is what I'm saying, how would it work? How does your mind envision it?

I'm in no rush to go back to the days of "your turn, my turn" with Jimmy and Derrick.

[Indomitable]

I suggest everyone read that article about Porter’s diet. He still was feeling back pain at the end of the season, and it got worse when he played those last few games. It wasn’t rust, it was back pain.

At that point, he was mostly vegan. Now he says he is going to a all raw vegan diet. He says he feels good, but he still has not tested his back in real basketball situations. At this point, he is only doing basketball training for 75 minutes per day. I

He’s hopeful that the raw vegan diet will keep the back pain away, but he really doesn’t know.

The scary point is that he was feeling significant back pain four months after his surgery. That’s not good. Doesn’t sound like one would call his surgery a complete success by any means. He’s counting on a raw vegan diet to fix the back pain that his surgery did not fix. Ugh.


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Wow

Why would he think a raw vegan diet would fix his back pain? Who's giving this kid advice? It sounds like he was brainwashed by some quack

There are some real red flags. Draft someone else.

[Habs72]

I suggest everyone read that article about Porter’s diet. He still was feeling back pain at the end of the season, and it got worse when he played those last few games. It wasn’t rust, it was back pain.

At that point, he was mostly vegan. Now he says he is going to a all raw vegan diet. He says he feels good, but he still has not tested his back in real basketball situations. At this point, he is only doing basketball training for 75 minutes per day.

He’s hopeful that the raw vegan diet will keep the back pain away, but he really doesn’t know.

The scary point is that he was feeling significant back pain four months after his surgery. That’s not good. Doesn’t sound like one would call his surgery a complete success by any means. He’s counting on a raw vegan diet to fix the back pain that his surgery did not fix. Ugh.


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Wow

Why would he think a raw vegan diet would fix his back pain? Who's giving this kid advice? It sounds like he was brainwashed by some quack

May i present to you: Dr. Doug Graham!

Watch on YouTube

[Benedict Miller]

Yup that stood out to me, too. When do you see a center doing that?

Jahlil Okafor could that in high school

He was also great in defense .

Carter definitely is not a great defender, but he does offer weak side rim protection.

[navdeep_singh]

You realize that most doctors don’t have a goddamn clue about nutrition, receiving almost no training in their many years of med school and residency on the subject . There is nothing wrong with a vegan diet. It’s actually much healthier than a meat and dairy-based diet. Beans have far more protein and nutrients and fiber than meat, with no cholesterol. Vegans are far more healthier overall in society, by every measure, obesity, heart disease, cancer at Cetera. It’s been proven in study after study . People forget that large numbers of humanity can’t even digest dairy: That’s because it’s grown fluid to transform a baby cow to a 700 pound adult .

So if you want to attack MPJ go ahead but don’t invite this garbage about diet, that’s a non sequitur and red herring .

[Chicago-Bull-E]

So if Porter's a ball-stopper like I've read, and LaVine seems like a ball-stopper as well... and Dunn needs the ball in his hands to facilitate... how the hell is that grouping going to work?

Just repeat after me: "It's ok to have more than one scorer on the team..."

Let's take it a step further is what I'm saying, how would it work? How does your mind envision it?

I'm in no rush to go back to the days of "your turn, my turn" with Jimmy and Derrick.

Well, for starters, Dunn will be doing literally the opposite of what you are claiming Lavine and Porter do. He is distributing to the shooters, scorers.

Secondly, there is no gaurantee Lavine is back next year.

Thirdly, it's the coaches job to implement a ball movement offense. If he can't mold a rookie that's begging to be in Chicago and a 22 year old, then the coach is the problem.

Fourthly, scoring (or "ball stopping" if you like putting a negative spin on it) is a trait the Bulls should be desperate for. Their leading scorer from last year is no longer on the team. Let's get the two 20 points scorers first, then worry about ball distribution.

Lastly, calling Porter a ball stopper is a bit premature. It's probably the same posters that claim thy don't have enough information on him.

[Habs72]

Jahlil Okafor could that in high school

He was also great in defense .

Carter definitely is not a great defender, but he does offer weak side rim protection.

He most definitely is a good defender, if not the best on all of the top bigs in the draft currently.

[Chi town]

He also had back surgery and looked awful. He is a gamble.

how would u look after back surgery?



he put up 14 & 9 in limited minutes. now, imagine if he wasn't coming off surgery.

Am I trying to get drafted?

This is just a stupid statement. I said he has not been able to play or compete in a year. He is still struggling to get his health back.

Did I claim I am the best NBA prospect.

He was bad and in pain. He has done nothing in the last year to make me say we should draft him. Back problems can be for ever.

Yep. Damaged goods. 3 years of HS ball playing at 75%. That’s nuts.

PASS.

[kodo]

So if Porter's a ball-stopper like I've read, and LaVine seems like a ball-stopper as well... and Dunn needs the ball in his hands to facilitate... how the hell is that grouping going to work?

What is a ball-stopper to you?

If you mean someone who sets screens and himself comes off screens to catch & shoot...both GS & CLE have won championships with Klay Thompson & Kyle Korver mainly shooting off screens.

Porter & Lavine are nothing alike, they are probably the opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of how much they dribble the ball.

This is similar to asking how Kyrie Irving & Kevin Love can co-exist. One is an on-ball creator, the other sets screens and pops or spaces the floor without the ball.

Porter was measured a .25" taller than Anthony Davis...I do not foresee him dribbling that rock much unless he breaks out into some best case SF like KD or Giannis (very rare).

[Hangtime84]

My father in law is raw vegan he has seen a improvement in his health. If you like salads, sprouts and fruits not too difficult.

I’ve done for a week but damn its expensive