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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#441 » by sco » Mon Jan 6, 2020 10:37 pm

Saw this and wondered if we could get in the middle of a BOS DET deal for Drummond:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/1/6/21051253/andre-drummond-nba-trade-deadline-hawks-raptors-celtics

Bulls out: Porter in: Gordon Hayward and Carsen Edwards
BOS out: Gordon Hayward, Carsen Edwards, Tacko Fall in: Drummond
DET out: Drummond in: Porter, Tacko Fall
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Post#442 » by MisterRoy » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:15 pm

If Blake does get his season ending surgery, GarPax need to just go get Rose. Period.


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Post#443 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Tue Jan 7, 2020 1:42 am

Dan Z wrote:
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That would be a terrible deal for the Kings and a huge addition for the Lakers, fingers crossed it doesn't happen. Vlade should be fired before he helps the Lakers
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Post#444 » by Chi town » Tue Jan 7, 2020 1:43 am

coldfish wrote:
Chi town wrote:What this team needs more than anything is a PG to make this whole thing work. CP3 would make Zach Lauri and WCJ so much better. I’ve been against it but believe it’s worth it after I’ve seen what’s it done for SGAs game.

CP3 has 2/80 left on his deal after this season.

Felicio is 2/16
Thad is 1/14
I’d even throw in Sato at 1/10
Or Kornet at 1/6.

Take on salary to win. CP3 would bypass Boylen On the court and make this offense hum. This gets OKC out of the tax too

CP3 would also mentor Coby.


I have said this in other threads. I think the age of point guards is over. You just can't win if the guy running the offense is small. You need to run the offense through a wing or a big who can handle the ball. I would save up assets and wait for someone to come available.


CP3 seems to be running their offense ok.
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Post#445 » by weneeda2guard » Tue Jan 7, 2020 2:50 am

I said months ago the guy we should go after was cp3. We need a coach on the floor especially down the stretch of games. If we had a pg to run the offense especially in crunch time we would probably he 10 games above. 500 and not 10 games under. Garpax realized this was a need which is why they went after darrin collinson and settled on sato who has failed at this pg job. We still have to hand the ball to lavine which we knew last season he didnt need to be in that role.

OKC is actually in the playoff hunt out west, and they have a ton of picks. Their future is good and cp3 might not be on the move anymore.
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Post#446 » by Ayman78 » Tue Jan 7, 2020 8:40 am

How about a three team trade:

76ers receive: Zach Lavine, Thad Young and 2nd round pick from Bulls also get Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma and Jared Dudley from the Lakers. 

Bulls receive: Ben Simmons and Mike Scott, and Cadwell-Pope from the Lakers 

Lakers Receive: Al Horford and Denzel Valentine or Chandler Hutchison a top ten protected 1st round pick from the Bulls and a future second round pick from both the Bulls and 76ers. 

Rational: Bulls gain star to build around in Ben Simmons. 
The 76ers get a bonafide 2nd scorer in Lavine with quality supporting players for a championship run in Green, Young and Kuzma really rounds the team around Embied. The Lakers get a true third star quality player for their championship run a clear big three in Horford.
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Post#447 » by humble servant » Tue Jan 7, 2020 9:18 pm

Lonzo ball is balling and I have always like him as a pure passer and defender trade Dunn now
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Post#448 » by The Senator » Tue Jan 7, 2020 9:31 pm

Ayman78 wrote:How about a three team trade:

76ers receive: Zach Lavine, Thad Young and 2nd round pick from Bulls also get Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma and Jared Dudley from the Lakers. 

Bulls receive: Ben Simmons and Mike Scott, and Cadwell-Pope from the Lakers 

Lakers Receive: Al Horford and Denzel Valentine or Chandler Hutchison a top ten protected 1st round pick from the Bulls and a future second round pick from both the Bulls and 76ers. 

Rational: Bulls gain star to build around in Ben Simmons. 
The 76ers get a bonafide 2nd scorer in Lavine with quality supporting players for a championship run in Green, Young and Kuzma really rounds the team around Embied. The Lakers get a true third star quality player for their championship run a clear big three in Horford.


Not interested in helping the Lakers out under almost any circumstances, and I especially wouldn't do it to bring in Ben Simmons, who is going to need dynamic shooters in the backcourt to flourish. It'd be better to trade Lauri but that leaves the Bulls with a gaping hole at the 4 spot, so I'd just as soon forget about this one for the time being.
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Post#449 » by sco » Tue Jan 7, 2020 10:14 pm

humble servant wrote:Lonzo ball is balling and I have always like him as a pure passer and defender trade Dunn now

IMO the rumored discussion were for our pick or our pick plus Dunn. Would you do Coby & Dunn for Ball? It's not as obvious, but not crazy in hindsight.
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Post#450 » by Ayman78 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 2:23 am

The Senator wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:How about a three team trade:

76ers receive: Zach Lavine, Thad Young and 2nd round pick from Bulls also get Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma and Jared Dudley from the Lakers. 

Bulls receive: Ben Simmons and Mike Scott, and Cadwell-Pope from the Lakers 

Lakers Receive: Al Horford and Denzel Valentine or Chandler Hutchison a top ten protected 1st round pick from the Bulls and a future second round pick from both the Bulls and 76ers. 

Rational: Bulls gain star to build around in Ben Simmons. 
The 76ers get a bonafide 2nd scorer in Lavine with quality supporting players for a championship run in Green, Young and Kuzma really rounds the team around Embied. The Lakers get a true third star quality player for their championship run a clear big three in Horford.


Not interested in helping the Lakers out under almost any circumstances, and I especially wouldn't do it to bring in Ben Simmons, who is going to need dynamic shooters in the backcourt to flourish. It'd be better to trade Lauri but that leaves the Bulls with a gaping hole at the 4 spot, so I'd just as soon forget about this one for the time being.


My thinking is that Ben Simmons becomes the point guard and you'd already have good shooters around him and a couple of pick and roll bigs.
PG: Simmons
SG: Satoranský
SF: Porter
PF: Markkanen
C: Carter/Gafford

You don't like that lineup.
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Post#451 » by Dez » Wed Jan 8, 2020 2:33 am

sco wrote:
humble servant wrote:Lonzo ball is balling and I have always like him as a pure passer and defender trade Dunn now

IMO the rumored discussion were for our pick or our pick plus Dunn. Would you do Coby & Dunn for Ball? It's not as obvious, but not crazy in hindsight.


Absolutely not and it is crazy.
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Post#452 » by scottyg » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:01 am

I say we trade Otto Porter and Christiano Felicio and a 2nd rd pick for Demar Derozan and Dereck Rose, then we start Coby white and let the offense run through Derozan and then let Rose come in and take over as the bench scorer !
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Post#453 » by AKfanatic » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:33 am

sco wrote:
humble servant wrote:Lonzo ball is balling and I have always like him as a pure passer and defender trade Dunn now

IMO the rumored discussion were for our pick or our pick plus Dunn. Would you do Coby & Dunn for Ball? It's not as obvious, but not crazy in hindsight.


I was really hoping for Ball. I get why others didn’t/don’t like him but what he does well seemed to be a really good fit next to Zach, Lauri, and Carter.

I wasn’t sure about trading the 7 plus for him as there were other prospects I was hoping for at 7 or trades that I’d hoped got the Bulls an extra pick for the 7....

That said, I’d do Dunn and White for Ball with no hesitation. White has potential and Dunn has been solid, but I still think he’d (Ball) of been really good for the Bulls. He rebounds, plays solid D, and can run an offense. He has better instincts than anyone on the roster. I’d of been really high on a Ball, Lavine, Porter, Markkanen, and Carter starting 5.
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Post#454 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am

scottyg wrote:I say we trade Otto Porter and Christiano Felicio and a 2nd rd pick for Demar Derozan and Dereck Rose, then we start Coby white and let the offense run through Derozan and then let Rose come in and take over as the bench scorer !


I say, what photos do you have in your possession to make the Spurs and Pistons play along?

Unless Christiano and Dereck aren't typos and you're talking about some players from outside the NBA
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Post#455 » by GimmeDat » Wed Jan 8, 2020 10:45 am

I was an advocate of 7 for Lonzo, and I still feel positive about that. Lonzo's been taking his time to get healthy, but look at how he's playing now. He'd have been a great fit at PG. It was a risk, sure, but so is drafting a rookie.
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Post#456 » by wolffy » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:26 pm

I just still don't see the point of trades that make us a little bit better. Is the goal to just be a good team or to win a championship. Adding vets will help this team win more games but the main core of this team is incapable of a title. There has to be a superstar, period.
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Post#457 » by sco » Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:41 pm

wolffy wrote:I just still don't see the point of trades that make us a little bit better. Is the goal to just be a good team or to win a championship. Adding vets will help this team win more games but the main core of this team is incapable of a title. There has to be a superstar, period.

IMO, a superstar will only either come through FA (likely if we are a better team than we are today), through a trade of a good draft pick (which we are likely to have this year regardless of the tinkering trades) or via drafting.
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Post#458 » by humble servant » Wed Jan 8, 2020 9:36 pm

Garpax trade for lonzo now
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Post#459 » by drosereturn » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:07 am

humble servant wrote:Garpax trade for lonzo now


too late. Lonzo's value is probably at its highest while White is lowest.
A lot of prospects picked later than White are already way ahead of him in terms of production.
I am not even sure he has more potential.

This is why archetypes matter when your building a team. The Bulls lacked a lead playmaker at the 1 spot and Ball was literally the only guy that fit the bill. Plus he showed DPOY potential.

But Bulls foolishly thought just signing Sato and Lavine developing into one would solve the conundrum they couldnt solve for years.
Choosing quantity over quality (signing, Arci, Shaq, etc) was a disastrous choice when they could have rather done what CHA is doing.
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Post#460 » by MisterRoy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:08 am

Go. Get. Rose.


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