New Head Coach Mega Thread

transplant · Post #441 » by **transplant** » Fri Sep 4, 2020 9:54 pm

I didn't read all of this, but does it matter that it's obvious that Nash got the gig 'cause Durant wanted him to get it. Like that's 100% of why he got it. No other reason. None.

ImSlower · Post #442 » by **ImSlower** » Fri Sep 4, 2020 10:31 pm

I pretty much hit the FF button on the entire debate regarding Nash. Durant and Irving got rid of one guy, wanted a certain kind of new guy, they said a name, and they got that guy. End of story.

Post #443 » by **dougthonus** » Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:09 pm

transplant wrote:I didn't read all of this, but does it matter that it's obvious that Nash got the gig 'cause Durant wanted him to get it. Like that's 100% of why he got it. No other reason. None.

I agree.

Beyond that, ignoring Durant's desire, PG has long been the most common player position to become a head coach and many guys have gotten the gig without being an assistant first.

VDN
Derek Fisher
Doc Rivers
Isiah Thomas
Jason Kidd
Steve Kerr (does he count as a PG?)
Mark Jackson

Kurt Heimlich · Post #444 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:21 pm

The whole racial twist put on the Nash hiring is wild. Imagine if(when) Chris Paul gets a job without any experience. Because similar to Nash, any normal person realizes he has the inherent bball acumen and respect in his field to command such a position.

I'm sure if that happened Screamin' A would be just as livid that he got the job over more experienced candidates.

2018C3 · Post #445 » by **2018C3** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 12:52 am

I have to admit, If Ak pulled Steve Nash out of his hat of tricks as the bulls coach: I would have been very intrigued.

Its not like this guy was pulled out of the boonies with no credentials. Even without prior coaching experience He's still a former MVP with years of experience at a top level in this league. That has to also count for something,

The Nets took a gamble, I will be interested to see how it all turns out.

kodo · Post #446 » by **kodo** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 1:26 am

Well it looks like Bud may join the candidates looking for a job.

Chi town · Post #447 » by **Chi town** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 1:29 am

kodo wrote:Well it looks like Bud may join the candidates looking for a job.

And he’d be my hire day one.

Bucks are losing because they don’t have the players. Way too old.

samwana · Post #448 » by **samwana** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 2:07 am

chefo wrote:I think people miss the irony that asking for 'quotas' based on ANY personal characteristic rather than merit is a very, very slippery slope.

Ok, how about we have a representative racial quota for players--13% black, 62% white, 17% Hispanic, 5% Asian. Would anybody sign up to watch that? Or how about the NBA mandates that 5% of players need to be LGBT?

Or better yet, how about the NBA mandate that the players be equally distributed according to height? I mean, the league is really, really prejudiced against short people. The average guy in the US is what? 5'9? That's to say, half are shorter than that. That preference for tall guys is also inherently racist, if you think about it, because it discriminates against Latinos and Asians who are a good 3 inches shorter on average than whites and 2 inches shorter than African Americans.

Or, we should have the NBA mandate that we should also distribute according to arm length. I feel greatly oppressed because as a -2.5 height to reach, my chance of making millions of $ putting an inflated, leather-bound object through a hoop was denied to me, despite the fact that I had a 35' vertical and could shoot better than probably half of the players in the league. I mean, the only one of my (T-Rex) kind to make it in the NBA seems to be JJ Reddick. That's what? 1 out of 450? The average height to reach is 0, which is to say the minus, which is half of us, are greatly oppressed by this preference for guys with long arms.

The NBA is entertainment. It needs to put the best possible product on the floor. If that means 3/4 Black players and 3/4 white coaches, that's what they'll do.

And one last point to make with regards to the above--the league's audience is much broader and more racially diverse and I would argue that the NBA under Stern and Silver has done wonders to make a select group of 450 dudes / year insanely wealthy over the last 30 years. 30 years ago an average NBA player made as much $ as a doctor. Now they make more than anybody but the CEO's of Fortune 500 companies. The reason the NBA has been so good at it is because they've made it a point to not alienate anybody who's a potential customer. The NBA is not a black league per say, no matter what people in the media say--it just happens so that most the best players on the planet happen to be black and therefore fully deserve to be in the spot they are in. If somehow, over the next generation, Asians find some secret sauce to where they can dominate in hoops, you'd better believe it that the league will become 3/4 Asian.

If a black coach is the most deserving candidate--fire away and hire him. But to see people complain about the Nets hiring the coach hand-picked by Durant and Kyrie is just bizarre. There were a couple of front-page articles today about how the hiring of Nash shows how racist the NBA is with regards to coaches which were performing mental gymnastics worthy of the Olympics to try to prove the above. It's simplistic, low-resolution thinking at its most naïve, and straight-up race-baiting at its worst.

Great post!

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Jcool0 · Post #449 » by **Jcool0** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 2:31 am

Chi town wrote:
kodo wrote:Well it looks like Bud may join the candidates looking for a job.

And he’d be my hire day one.

Bucks are losing because they don’t have the players. Way too old.

I think he would go to New Orleans.

MrFortune3 · Post #450 » by **MrFortune3** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:14 am

I don't think Bud is getting fired. It would be pretty silly given how good their team has been and I doubt Giannis would take kindly to it.

Chi town · Post #451 » by **Chi town** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:24 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
kodo wrote:Well it looks like Bud may join the candidates looking for a job.

And he’d be my hire day one.

Bucks are losing because they don’t have the players. Way too old.

I think he would go to New Orleans.

Probably. Griffin is a great GM.

Truebiscuit · Post #452 » by **Truebiscuit** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:51 am

Surprised nobody is talking about this...

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Miami Heat grant permission for assistant Dan Craig to interview for Chicago Bulls coaching vacancy

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-dan-craig-chicago-bulls-20200902-omqop56vazedvlgngk2hvjsrzi-story.html

Chi town · Post #453 » by **Chi town** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:57 am

Truebiscuit wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about this...

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Miami Heat grant permission for assistant Dan Craig to interview for Chicago Bulls coaching vacancy

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-dan-craig-chicago-bulls-20200902-omqop56vazedvlgngk2hvjsrzi-story.html

Already did. Pages back.

Jcool0 · Post #454 » by **Jcool0** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:58 am

Truebiscuit wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about this...

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Miami Heat grant permission for assistant Dan Craig to interview for Chicago Bulls coaching vacancy

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-dan-craig-chicago-bulls-20200902-omqop56vazedvlgngk2hvjsrzi-story.html

We talked about it already. And FWIW the Bulls are interviewing him so yes they are interested so its not really news.

Truebiscuit · Post #455 » by **Truebiscuit** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:08 am

Jeeeezus, sorry! :lol:

MrFortune3 · Post #456 » by **MrFortune3** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:27 am

Truebiscuit wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about this...

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Miami Heat grant permission for assistant Dan Craig to interview for Chicago Bulls coaching vacancy

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-dan-craig-chicago-bulls-20200902-omqop56vazedvlgngk2hvjsrzi-story.html

We already talked about it and the announcers mentioned him being in demand for coaching interviews.

JimmyButler21 · Post #457 » by **JimmyButler21** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 6:04 am

Chi town wrote:
kodo wrote:Well it looks like Bud may join the candidates looking for a job.

And he’d be my hire day one.

Bucks are losing because they don’t have the players. Way too old.

Bud is pretty much Thibs 2.0

Andi Obst · Post #458 » by **Andi Obst** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:32 am

MrFortune3 wrote:I don't think Bud is getting fired. It would be pretty silly given how good their team has been and I doubt Giannis would take kindly to it.

Yeah, it probably comes down to how Giannis feels about Bud. They will do anything to convince him to stay. No way they fire him unless Giannis is okay with it.

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #459 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Sat Sep 5, 2020 9:37 am

Soo our coaching candidates list is getting bigger and bigger

Chewie · Post #460 » by **Chewie** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 3:02 am

https://pippenainteasy.com/2020/09/05/chicago-bulls-karnisovas-strong-idea-wants-hire/

But apparently some other executives around the NBA feel that Karnisovas already has a “strong idea” of who he wants to hire as the Bulls next head coach to replace Boylen. In a recent episode of the “Bulls Talk Podcast”, Sports Illustrated NBA reporter/insider Chris Mannix joined up to talk about Chicago’s candidate search that is actively ongoing.

Here’s a bit of what Mannix had to say on the matter of Karnisovas and the Bulls head coaching search on this podcast released on Sep. 5.

I’ve heard from a lot of executives that believe that Arturas (Karnisovas) has a strong idea of who he wants to hire and just is keeping a kind of under his hat for right now.

Maybe soon?