OT Election Thread

Post #441 » by **CBS7** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:05 am

Georgia is down to 3k. Biden only needs 57%. Georgia will likely flip in the next couple hours.

Post #442 » by **CBS7** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:07 am

I hope Trump loses PA, GA, AZ, and NV. I want this as much of a blowout as it can be.

Jo Jo English · Post #443 » by **Jo Jo English** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:08 am

That Trump speech was an utter embarrassment. A travesty. Pathetic.

Post #444 » by **kulaz3000** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:16 am

Jo Jo English wrote:That Trump speech was an utter embarrassment. A travesty. Pathetic.

What did you expect from him?

Jo Jo English · Post #445 » by **Jo Jo English** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:16 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
Jo Jo English wrote:That Trump speech was an utter embarrassment. A travesty. Pathetic.

What did you expect from him?

Nothing less than the poisonous tantrum we got. Felt that way for years. Just wanted those that need to accept that to hear it.

Post #446 » by **Ice Man** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:17 am

Objectively, the electoral college is an embarrassing remnant from 250 years ago, barely more appropriate for modern times than Black people counting for 3/5ths of representation. But it sure does add artificial drama to the proceedings.

TheSuzerain · Post #447 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:21 am

Have to give a hearty laugh at the posters who just had to preface all their posts pointing out that both candidates were terrible.

This was an all-time easy choice. And that speech pretty clearly showed why.

Post #448 » by **CBS7** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:22 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Have to give a hearty laugh at the posters who just had to preface all their posts pointing out that both candidates were terrible.

This was an all-time easy choice. And that speech pretty clearly showed why.

I mean, it could be both.

TheSuzerain · Post #449 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:33 am

CBS7 wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Have to give a hearty laugh at the posters who just had to preface all their posts pointing out that both candidates were terrible.

This was an all-time easy choice. And that speech pretty clearly showed why.

I mean, it could be both.

Nah. It's "both sides" garbage.

Biden is milquetoast as hell. Dem Party has issues, but running Biden for President is quite low on that list.

Bullflip · Post #450 » by **Bullflip** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:41 am

Trump is crazy. I cannot believe that I actually supported him previously. Never in my wildest dreams he would become like this.

Post #451 » by **dougthonus** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:42 am

TheSuzerain wrote:
CBS7 wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Have to give a hearty laugh at the posters who just had to preface all their posts pointing out that both candidates were terrible.

This was an all-time easy choice. And that speech pretty clearly showed why.

I mean, it could be both.

Nah. It's "both sides" garbage.

Biden is milquetoast as hell. Dem Party has issues, but running Biden for President is quite low on that list.

I'm generally a democrat, but I would have probably voted against Biden in most elections. Trump is a sociopath though. I mean literally, he is a sociopath. He just lies about everything he doesn't like. Invents whatever story he has. As I said earlier, he's like a villain written into a children's book that keeps getting away with everything. This isn't typical "both sides are bad" situation here.

Dresden · Post #452 » by **Dresden** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:43 am

CBS7 wrote:Georgia is down to 3k. Biden only needs 57%. Georgia will likely flip in the next couple hours.

Yeah, but is he picking up that % in recent counts? I heard Fulton Co. was all in.

Dresden · Post #453 » by **Dresden** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:45 am

Ice Man wrote:Objectively, the electoral college is an embarrassing remnant from 250 years ago, barely more appropriate for modern times than Black people counting for 3/5ths of representation. But it sure does add artificial drama to the proceedings.

Yeah, Biden is going to win the popular vote by around 4 million votes. This could be the 3rd time in the past 6 elections that they lose while winning the popular vote. I'm tired of knowing that my vote in CA is meaningless in the presidential race.

Post #454 » by **dougthonus** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:46 am

Dresden wrote:
CBS7 wrote:Georgia is down to 3k. Biden only needs 57%. Georgia will likely flip in the next couple hours.

Yeah, but is he picking up that % in recent counts? I heard Fulton Co. was all in.

I think the expectation was Biden would get a good lead in all remaining counties, because even in the republican heavy counties, the mail in ballets were still skewing democratic. I think we're down to like 17k votes left to count too, so obviously not a lock one way or the other.

Doing a quick scan of the county map on CNN, there were 5-6 counties left that weren't at 99% and all but one were blue.

Dresden · Post #455 » by **Dresden** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:48 am

dougthonus wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
CBS7 wrote:
I mean, it could be both.

Nah. It's "both sides" garbage.

Biden is milquetoast as hell. Dem Party has issues, but running Biden for President is quite low on that list.

I'm generally a democrat, but I would have probably voted against Biden in most elections. Trump is a sociopath though. I mean literally, he is a sociopath. He just lies about everything he doesn't like. Invents whatever story he has. As I said earlier, he's like a villain written into a children's book that keeps getting away with everything. This isn't typical "both sides are bad" situation here.

A lot of it is all about the people he puts around him, and how well he uses those people. I think Biden will realize his limits, appoint competent people to the cabinet, and just take the lead where it's needed. By the way, McConnell is already saying the senate will block any of his cabinet nominations that are too "radical". I guess it's fine for Trump to appoint a pretty radical justice to a lifetime appointment though. Or pick someone like Scott Atlas to Covid task force.

KissedByaRose1 · Post #456 » by **KissedByaRose1** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:48 am

dougthonus wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
CBS7 wrote:
I mean, it could be both.

Nah. It's "both sides" garbage.

Biden is milquetoast as hell. Dem Party has issues, but running Biden for President is quite low on that list.

I'm generally a democrat, but I would have probably voted against Biden in most elections. Trump is a sociopath though. I mean literally, he is a sociopath. He just lies about everything he doesn't like. Invents whatever story he has. As I said earlier, he's like a villain written into a children's book that keeps getting away with everything. This isn't typical "both sides are bad" situation here.

I’m not super into politics but any reason in particular you’re so strongly against Biden? I voted just to get Trump out but Joe seems pretty mild mannered/moderate in my book but I’m not the most educated on him.

the ultimates · Post #457 » by **the ultimates** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:55 am

Dresden wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Nah. It's "both sides" garbage.

Biden is milquetoast as hell. Dem Party has issues, but running Biden for President is quite low on that list.

I'm generally a democrat, but I would have probably voted against Biden in most elections. Trump is a sociopath though. I mean literally, he is a sociopath. He just lies about everything he doesn't like. Invents whatever story he has. As I said earlier, he's like a villain written into a children's book that keeps getting away with everything. This isn't typical "both sides are bad" situation here.

A lot of it is all about the people he puts around him, and how well he uses those people. I think Biden will realize his limits, appoint competent people to the cabinet, and just take the lead where it's needed. By the way, McConnell is already saying the senate will block any of his cabinet nominations that are too "radical". I guess it's fine for Trump to appoint a pretty radical justice to a lifetime appointment though. Or pick someone like Scott Atlas to Covid task force.

Mitch may be getting a little ahead of himself. Georgia may have both of its Senate seats go to a runoff.

Post #458 » by **dougthonus** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:56 am

KissedByaRose1 wrote:I’m not super into politics but any reason in particular you’re so strongly against Biden? I voted just to get Trump out but Joe seems pretty mild mannered/moderate in my book but I’m not the most educated on him.

He's 14 years past retirement age. I literally think every single person without exception that I speak with in my life on a regular basis is sharper at this point in their life than Joe Biden. This is the fricken Presidency we're talking about here. Biden isn't going to run a damn thing, people around him will run it, so I don't even know whom I'm really voting for if I vote for Biden? I can't imagine he's going to be a strong leader in any type of negotiations or foreign policy, he's completely uninspiring. He's better than a lying sociopath with nuclear codes, but that's about it.

You'd literally have to ask yourself if you think Biden would even be alive to complete 2 terms or die of old age first if he ran for re-election after winning.

Post #459 » by **dougthonus** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 1:01 am

Dresden wrote:It looks like there could be 400K votes left in AZ. Biden is ahead by 68K. In order to make that up, Trump would have to win the remaining ballots by a margin of 58.5-41.5%, according to my math. That's a pretty hefty margin he needs.

Biden's lead in AZ is down to 57k votes now. It's trending like Trump will come back from behind to take AZ.

Dresden · Post #460 » by **Dresden** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 1:04 am

dougthonus wrote:
Dresden wrote:It looks like there could be 400K votes left in AZ. Biden is ahead by 68K. In order to make that up, Trump would have to win the remaining ballots by a margin of 58.5-41.5%, according to my math. That's a pretty hefty margin he needs.

Biden's lead in AZ is down to 57k votes now. It's trending like Trump will come back from behind to take AZ.

All depends on where the remaining votes come from. 57K votes is still a lot to make up.