Bulls Remaining Roster Spot Discussion

[Andi Obst]

How about C Nicolas Claxton and a future 2nd rd pick from the Nets for draft rights to Jon Diebler ?

Thoughts ??

Uhm…what?! Claxton could very well end up being their best big this season. That’s a laughable offer for him.

They have a few guys who are much worse and are easy to dump. Maybe OKC tries Doumbouya for a heavily protected second? And a guy like Bembry is only guaranteed for 750K. Even when you add the luxury tax that’s nothing for the Nets.

[Darius Miles Davis]

Back to the height discussion, did folks know that Thad Young’s pre-draft measured height without shoes was 6’5.75? Makes me call Pat into question more since he looked the same size as Thad, but also
I think definitively ends the notion of whether a guy measuring around 6’6 without shoes is big enough to play the 4.

Thad, I believe, was also one of the youngest players in his draft class, so he may have grown a bit while in the league. At this point, with Pat's path forward shaping up as a PF, I wouldn't mind seeing him gain an inch or so and wind up just a bit bigger. I remember Luol Deng was originally listed at 6'8" as a Bull and was eventually resisted at 6'9" after he grew a bit. For all Pat's skills, I remember seeing him Ding up Giannis last year and thinking "Wow, Pat is a LOT smaller than Giannis."

[HomoSapien]

Alize highlight reel was one block and then all scoring. If that’s how he plays he doesn’t fit our need. We have plenty of scorers

His strength on the NBA level is rebounding. Not sure about his defense but per 36 he averages 17 rebounds a game and was a beast on the boards in college too.

[Big_El]

Chandler Hutchison??? LOL

[Pax for Prez]

How about C Nicolas Claxton and a future 2nd rd pick from the Nets for draft rights to Jon Diebler ?

Thoughts ??

Uhm…what?! Claxton could very well end up being their best big this season. That’s a laughable offer for him.

They have a few guys who are much worse and are easy to dump. Maybe OKC tries Doumbouya for a heavily protected second? And a guy like Bembry is only guaranteed for 750K. Even when you add the luxury tax that’s nothing for the Nets.

It might be an over reach, but Claxton minutes will me low this season. They start Griffin, with LA getting most of the backup minutes and then 1st rd pick D. Sharpe getting blow out time.

[sco]

Chandler Hutchison??? LOL

Has Carter been cut loose yet?

[GoBlue72391]

After the Nets trading of Jordan to Detroit, the Nets are sitting on 16 guaranteed contracts. Most teams have full rosters. The Bulls can accept players in their Trade Exemption helping the Nets save on their tax bill.

How about C Nicolas Claxton and a future 2nd rd pick from the Nets for draft rights to Jon Diebler ?

Thoughts ??

My thoughts are that Diebler is over 30, was drafted like a decade ago, and has never played in the NBA while Claxton is actually solid and a 2nd round pick has decent value, so this is possibly the most unrealistic trade proposal I've ever seen. They would essentially be trading Claxton and a 2nd to us for free. 16 guaranteed contracts or not, giving up a solid player and a pick for nothing isn't worth freeing up a spot. Why would they do that?

[IamSam]

I really want to believe that one of the following turns out to be true:

1. AKME has some more tricks that will surprise us with this last pick

Or

2. Its an "end of the bench" role that turns out never play and is never really counted on to suit up.

I guess I just don't want to NEED a Paul Millsap or Lamarcus Aldridge, but I sure do hope Bulls mgt can get whatever is needed.

[Pax for Prez]

After the Nets trading of Jordan to Detroit, the Nets are sitting on 16 guaranteed contracts. Most teams have full rosters. The Bulls can accept players in their Trade Exemption helping the Nets save on their tax bill.

How about C Nicolas Claxton and a future 2nd rd pick from the Nets for draft rights to Jon Diebler ?

Thoughts ??

My thoughts are that Diebler is over 30, was drafted like a decade ago, and has never played in the NBA while Claxton is actually solid and a 2nd round pick has decent value, so this is possibly the most unrealistic trade proposal I've ever seen. They would essentially be trading Claxton and a 2nd to us for free. 16 guaranteed contracts or not, giving up a solid player and a pick for nothing isn't worth freeing up a spot. Why would they do that?

Yes, that's the point, it is a salary dump for them.

The only value Dieber has is he does not count against the salary cap (no value as a player). The reason Nets may look into a deal like this is any player waived still counts towards the Lux Tax.

They need to move someone. Sekou Doumbouya and Jahlil Okafor have less value, but they may not interest The Bulls.

Claxton deal ends after this season and is probably not in there long term plans.

[FriedRise]

Thought something would've been finalized by now after Millsap went to Brooklyn. Wonder if something is in the works that's not as simple as signing somebody from the free agent pool.

I smell Sign and Trade #5

[Grodoboldo]

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

This guy's growing on me. Not a big leaper or shot blocker, but I love his activity level. He just has a knack for grabbing rebounds and that'll always make him useful.

Agreed. Him, Vanderbilt and Hartenstein should be the top candidates. Sampson and Vonleh should come next.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

After the Nets trading of Jordan to Detroit, the Nets are sitting on 16 guaranteed contracts. Most teams have full rosters. The Bulls can accept players in their Trade Exemption helping the Nets save on their tax bill.

How about C Nicolas Claxton and a future 2nd rd pick from the Nets for draft rights to Jon Diebler ?

Thoughts ??

My thoughts are that Diebler is over 30, was drafted like a decade ago, and has never played in the NBA while Claxton is actually solid and a 2nd round pick has decent value, so this is possibly the most unrealistic trade proposal I've ever seen. They would essentially be trading Claxton and a 2nd to us for free. 16 guaranteed contracts or not, giving up a solid player and a pick for nothing isn't worth freeing up a spot. Why would they do that?

I’m pretty sure the Nets know how good Claxton is…..very unlikely we **** them over for a 2nd round pick.

[Red8911]

AKs plan was probably to sign Millsap and that would of been a really good move but now needs to go to Plan B or C. I say just sign a big tough player like Ed Davis or Biyombo, then bring back Arci.

[Bulls Fan 23]

Back to topic on hand, I want a combo of Hartenstein (true big) and DJ Wilson (combo forward).

Here’s another vid of Hartenstein - note the D:

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I was all for Vonleh, but I've changed my mind, sign both Wilson and Hartenstein, non guaranteed contracts in case something better comes along mid season.

Is Alize Johnson eligible for a two way contract? If he is I would sign him to a three year deal, guarantee the first year, second year team option. I think he has potential.

[coldfish]

The highlights for a lot of these guys look good but the reality is that right now, all 30 teams in the NBA aren't particularly interested in having these players on their rosters. I would hope that people would temper their enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, the Bulls truly are short of big men particularly at PF. AKME have put themselves in a position where they have to find a diamond in the rough or this will be a problem all season.

[erlim]

Karnisovas about to have to suit up himself if we can’t find some PF depth.

[Ctownbulls]

I don't think AKME feels an urgency to sign a big. It's clear the Bulls are going to try to beat teams with uber athleticism.

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[Stratmaster]

Weight changes, height almost always doesn’t. And if changed, much more likely for the younger at measurement Pat then the olde McDermott. Just google pre-draft measurements for the two. McDermott’s is easier to find.

The rest of the sites are “listed” heights, not “measured.”

Edit: having a hard time re-fining the Pat pre draft measurement. Did find a measurement from 2017 at 6’6 flat without shoes, 2 1/2 years before he was drafted…

And all of this misses the point. If Pat is actually half an inch taller and 15 pounds lighter, Doug is still "bigger", and if Doug were listed at PF instead of SF it wouldnt change the averages a bit.

I have no issues with PWill getting his minutes at PF but the Bulls better have someone bigger on the roster for that position as well or all those off season moves could be wasted.

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[Stratmaster]

Back to the height discussion, did folks know that Thad Young’s pre-draft measured height without shoes was 6’5.75? Makes me call Pat into question more since he looked the same size as Thad, but also I think definitively ends the notion of whether a guy measuring around 6’6 without shoes is big enough to play the 4.

So much for your pre-draft measurements theory. Thad Young is 6'7". Maybe 6'8".

And 1 player definitively ended the discussion? I guess Barkley ended it decades ago then? If PWill were built like Barkley I wouldn't be worried.

C'mon, that is all silly. The length people will go to sometimes....

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[khufure]

Need 2 Vonleh type guys. What's the holdup?