LaVine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls)

[kulaz3000]

Craig just waived is also mind boggling.. couldnt even get late pick for him? Daaamn..

To be fair, Craig is the type of player you usually get from the waiver wire, given his age, contributions and health. He'll be 35 this year. Better to waive him than a young player who might still have some potential.

If they trade Lonzo for crap, I'm done with the Bulls for awhile. Just increased his minutes, he's literally the only player you can really have hope for on the Bulls right now outside Matas and Giddey, and most of you have given up on Giddey. Most Chicago fans are not going to be okay with 2 years of tanking. Let's get rid of the only player on the team with high basketball IQ.

They need to change the draft process even more to prevent tanking. It's shady, dishonest, and a disservice to the fans. Goes against everything sports is supposed to stand for. Teams deliberately working hard to make themselves worse, smh.

Exactly, I'm not sure any team would have expected to get anything out of Craig. He is a professional journeyman in this league (which isn't a knock, it's just his role), that will bounce around, get traded, get waived, picked up etc.

[Muzbar]

Read on Twitter

Don't we need to drop players to make it official?

Craig and Duarte were dropped.

[Dan Z]

Oh, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that AK has been good or even “okay” at his job. I’m just saying that I think he got this particular action right. Albeit a year too late.

Yeah, I think this was a good decision in a vacuum. We will see what other decisions are made this trade deadline and the off-season to see if the overall direction seems good or bad in a big picture sense.

I don't think AK has missed on every decision he has made (FWIW), there are some clear wins. I think the problem is he has not shown that holistically he knows what he is doing at a strategic level, and so he doesn't package his decisions into a cohesive strategy that he can execute on either due to the strategy being poorly thought out and unreasonable or because he's not consistently good enough at execution to pull it off (or unfortunately, my view is both, that he's generally deficient in both strategy and execution which doesn't mean 100% wrong in both areas but certainly below average in both).

I want Flag but I don’t think we’ll get him (probably looking at 4-7% odds on lotto day). The whole lottery looks promising, though. There should be 1 star prospect available on that Bulls board, even if they end at 10 or 11. Of course even more stressful/crucial is getting a 2-4 pick right in a deep draft. Wish I could say I’d trust them. 2 & 4 will the trickiest, as 3 will be a no-brainer Bailey/Harper left-over. I’d be very nervous about AKME taking the wrong guy at those 2 spots.

If Matas’ stalls and their rookie next year is another Pat Terry, then AK and ME’s NBA careers in high places will be over, regardless how long Reinsdorf wants to drag it out.

If the Bulls don't get Flagg or Harper then I hope they get Kasparus Jakucionis (of course a lot can happen between now and the draft, plus the Bulls will probably not be in a position to pick him).

[Guru]

Its unfathomable to me that we couldn't get a 2nd for Craig. He's a rotational player on a championship team.

And before you say he wasn't in the rotation here....I think we all assumed we were just preserving his health. He was clearly one of our better players.

[MGB8]

They should have been able to get a protected 2nd and no salary back for Craig… Oh well. Not that big a deal.

They get off Zach’s salary and the team gets worse, accelerating the rebuild. Should have blown it up much earlier - this was inevitable - but it is what it is. Absent some sort of miracle acquisition, 5-10 years as an NBA bottom feeder coming up.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Craig just waived is also mind boggling.. couldnt even get late pick for him? Daaamn..

Why would we be able to get any type of pick for Craig? I feel like we’ve known for a while that Craig would be one of the first guys cut for roster space.

[GoBlue72391]

Bad, bad trade for the Bulls.

How is getting out of a bad contract for a non-impact player a "bad, bad trade"?

People expectations on the Lavine trade were too high. Yes, it's a blah trade but the Bulls no longer have that contact. That makes the Bulls a non loser in this trade.

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

[FriedRise]

Wondering why they didn't try to move Craig for something back, but I wonder if they waived Craig and Duarte in order to make the trade official because you're not allowed to carry more than 15.

[Jcool0]

Bad, bad trade for the Bulls.

How is getting out of a bad contract for a non-impact player a "bad, bad trade"?

People expectations on the Lavine trade were too high. Yes, it's a blah trade but the Bulls no longer have that contact. That makes the Bulls a non loser in this trade.

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

I thought everyone knew this?

[League Circles]

How is getting out of a bad contract for a non-impact player a "bad, bad trade"?

People expectations on the Lavine trade were too high. Yes, it's a blah trade but the Bulls no longer have that contact. That makes the Bulls a non loser in this trade.

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

I thought everyone knew this?

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

[GoBlue72391]

How is getting out of a bad contract for a non-impact player a "bad, bad trade"?

People expectations on the Lavine trade were too high. Yes, it's a blah trade but the Bulls no longer have that contact. That makes the Bulls a non loser in this trade.

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

I thought everyone knew this?

Only 5 guys in the league have a consistent impact on games?

[Jcool0]

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

I thought everyone knew this?

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

A true impact player is one of those top 10 players you need to win a title.

[GoBlue72391]

I thought everyone knew this?

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

A true impact player is one of those top 10 players you need to win a title.

I feel like you're mixing up impact player with franchise player.

[Jcool0]

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

I thought everyone knew this?

Only 5 guys in the league have a consistent impact on games?

If you want a chance to win it all probably 5-8 guys.

[League Circles]

I thought everyone knew this?

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

A true impact player is one of those top 10 players you need to win a title.

I disagree. That would suggest that virtually every player in the league has no impact on his team's chances. I mean it's obviously semantics, but literally nobody reserves the term "impact player" for only the top superstars in the league.

[Jcool0]

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

A true impact player is one of those top 10 players you need to win a title.

I feel like you're mixing up impact player with franchise player.

I mean if you want to use net positive for you impact players. You can argue that isn't Zach on the Bulls.

[GoBlue72391]

So we have too many players on the roster now. What's the deadline on rectifying that?

By the time of our next game, I would assume.

[Jcool0]

There are a handful of superstars in the league. I think most people would say there are more like 100+ "impact" players.

A true impact player is one of those top 10 players you need to win a title.

I disagree. That would suggest that virtually every player in the league has no impact on his team's chances. I mean it's obviously semantics, but literally nobody reserves the term "impact player" for only the top superstars in the league.

I mean you can have lets say Jue Holiday and on the right team be impactful to winning, but if he is your best player you aren't going far.

[Red8911]

Its unfathomable to me that we couldn't get a 2nd for Craig. He's a rotational player on a championship team.

And before you say he wasn't in the rotation here....I think we all assumed we were just preserving his health. He was clearly one of our better players.

Yeah maybe they could have gotten a really high 2nd round pick and even be involved in another deal but seems like Bulls needed to move fast in order to make this official so they just waived both these guys instead.

[Jeffster81]

Bad, bad trade for the Bulls.

How is getting out of a bad contract for a non-impact player a "bad, bad trade"?

People expectations on the Lavine trade were too high. Yes, it's a blah trade but the Bulls no longer have that contact. That makes the Bulls a non loser in this trade.

If you don't think he's an impact player then you have impossibly high standards. By your logic there must be a handful of impact players in the league at most.

We got different definition of the word impact.
Lavine is a good player, not denying that, he is no impact player.

And you are right, I do believe there are about two handful of players in the league that are impact players. Just because you are paid to be an impact player, does not mean you are an impact player.