Bears 12.0

[fleet]

Bears presser right now: Poles, Ben, Caleb and Grady
Poles mentioned Jaylon has leg issue, may miss a few weeks but nothing long term. Said Braxton and Loveland should be good to go after a short ramp up.

edit: Caleb either forgot about the presser or seems to have gotten lost.....

There’s no earthly reason ‘not to go into details’ on JJ “leg injury”.

I think you're projecting your desires. The NFL is ALWAYS guarded with injury info.

I desire good management and football.


During the season, sure of course, be guarded. Right now there’s no reason to be cloak and dagger unless it’s something that will linger into the season. But Poles said it’s over in a couple weeks. I would not put it past the Bears to be burying a mini protest either. That, would make sense actually.

Probably nothing though. Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

[GetBuLLish]

Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

Where did you get that from?

[fleet]

Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

Where did you get that from?

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That said,

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[dice]

not sure how i feel about BJ's stated goal for caleb to complete 70% of his passes (only 5 QBs did last season). obviously communicates a desire for either lots of check downs or a short route system

[fleet]

not sure how i feel about BJ's stated goal for caleb to complete 70% of his passes (only 5 QBs did last season). obviously communicates a desire for either lots of check downs or a short route system

It lets us know BJ’s priorities for Caleb. Avoiding sacks. BJ is totally into his EPA formula. As far as what Caleb needs to learn how to do, that would be getting the ball out on time. It might also mean that Caleb is on a leash until he learns how to do basic skills. A lot of screens maybe, short routes, quick checkdown, maybe he is not allowed full field reads. Ben sets up his offense to be able to get YAC. So in that way, it hopefully works. IIRC, Jayden Daniels was not allowed a lot of discretion in DC. I’m vaguely remembering that he only had half the field. Then he only had to pull the trigger on one thing or the other. Caleb OTOH had a lot more on his plate.

[jnrjr79]

There’s no earthly reason ‘not to go into details’ on JJ “leg injury”.

I think you're projecting your desires. The NFL is ALWAYS guarded with injury info.

I desire good management and football.


During the season, sure of course, be guarded. Right now there’s no reason to be cloak and dagger unless it’s something that will linger into the season. But Poles said it’s over in a couple weeks. I would not put it past the Bears to be burying a mini protest either. That, would make sense actually.

Probably nothing though. Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

If this is actually Jalen sitting out due to his contract (which I doubt, but is plausible), what the heck difference would it make if Poles said so in the media?

I never understand why fans think they have some sort of god-given right to this information.

[Electric Slim]

Breaking News: Burden decides football is not for him and wants to play for the Yankees.

Elway's thoughts https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=_TFfhrMIMmb7sRT4

[fleet]

I think you're projecting your desires. The NFL is ALWAYS guarded with injury info.

I desire good management and football.


During the season, sure of course, be guarded. Right now there’s no reason to be cloak and dagger unless it’s something that will linger into the season. But Poles said it’s over in a couple weeks. I would not put it past the Bears to be burying a mini protest either. That, would make sense actually.

Probably nothing though. Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

If this is actually Jalen sitting out due to his contract (which I doubt, but is plausible), what the heck difference would it make if Poles said so in the media?

I never understand why fans think they have some sort of god-given right to this information.

You’re missing a lot of difference.

Options to think about given the Poles cloak and dagger:

-Coverup
-Injury has potential to linger
-Unnecessarily annoying fans who just want to know what’s going on in camp.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Breaking News: Burden decides football is not for him and wants to play for the Yankees.

Elway's thoughts https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=_TFfhrMIMmb7sRT4

Bastardo

[jnrjr79]

I desire good management and football.


During the season, sure of course, be guarded. Right now there’s no reason to be cloak and dagger unless it’s something that will linger into the season. But Poles said it’s over in a couple weeks. I would not put it past the Bears to be burying a mini protest either. That, would make sense actually.

Probably nothing though. Coincidentally the guy having an issue with his contract is the one guy that didn’t show up.

If this is actually Jalen sitting out due to his contract (which I doubt, but is plausible), what the heck difference would it make if Poles said so in the media?

I never understand why fans think they have some sort of god-given right to this information.

You’re missing a lot of difference.

Options to think about given the Poles cloak and dagger:

-Coverup
-Injury has potential to linger
-Unnecessarily annoying fans who just want to know what’s going on in camp.

I'm not totally sure how that's responsive to what I'm saying, though. I totally agree that the injury could be real and they're just being vague b/c they aren't at a point in the season where they have to disclose it, or that it's contract-related. I just don't see why anyone would be upset with Poles about not being more detailed at the opening of camp about it. Nobody is entitled to this information. To the extent it's a contract holdout, it would seem Johnson prefers to keep it confidential, because players openly hold out all the time. Poles saying "he says he's hurt, but he's not, he wants a new deal" would be escalatory.

To me, the first 2 items you're listing are potential explanations, while the third I think it's more just like "stop being babies, fans." We've created this weird dynamic as a fandom where, mostly to facilitate gambling, fans think they should be sitting in with the radiologist looking over MRI results. It's weird.

[Dresden]

Sounds like the offense had a rough day on the first day of training camp, bad enough that Ben Johnson kicked the first unit off the field after they had trouble lining up correctly. It's good Johnson is stressing the importance of getting all the details right- those are the kinds of things that good teams do well, and poor teams struggle with.

On the bright side, Braxton Jones participated, so it would seem that he is ready to go back to work, and shouldn't miss any of the opening games, barring a setback.

[fleet]

Today’s headline was that Ben Johnson kicked the entire first team offense out of a drill today because they weren’t able to line up correctly, run plays correctly. If I have it right, Caleb couldn’t get them lined up correctly after 3 chances in a row, Ben had had enough, and booted them out of the drill. This is usually on the quarterback though. Ben probably could have just taken Caleb out, but possibly kicked off the entire unit so as not to single out Caleb for embarrassment. This may take longer than it took for last year’s cadence problem to iron out. Ben also is nullifying completions when the offense is not executing according to the play design.

Ozzy ran with the 1s today. Loveland is being described as appearing to have been hitting weights hard. Luther Burden didn’t practice. Biggs says he has been nursing a hammy all this time. That little workout video he posted had him moving like he was staying in low gear.

[Dresden]

Today’s headline was that Ben Johnson kicked the entire first team offense out of a drill today because they weren’t able to line up correctly, run plays correctly. If I have it right, Caleb couldn’t get them lined up correctly after 3 chances in a row, Ben had had enough, and booted them out of the drill. This is usually on the quarterback though. Ben probably could have just taken Caleb out, but possibly kicked off the entire unit so as not to single out Caleb for embarrassment. This may take longer than it took for last year’s cadence problem to iron out. Ben also is nullifying completions when the offense is not executing according to the play design.

Ozzy ran with the 1s today. Loveland is being described as appearing to have been hitting weights hard. Luther Burden didn’t practice. Biggs says he has been nursing a hammy all this time. That little workout video he posted had him moving like he was staying in low gear.

It's the first day of training camp. I don't know why you'd expect the offense not to have some issues being on the same page.

[fleet]

Most positions which had a starter in place already for a few years would be settled going into the season until further notice.. For at least the coming year. The Bears immediately put Braxton Jones into the hopper. Many people are saying they want Trapilo to win the job, but I think that’s the wrong idea. If I had my choice, Braxton Jones would get the job this season (assuming competency) so the Bears could build up his trade value, and compensation value. To read the tea leaves however, Jones is actively being targeted for immediate replacement both by having a SRP at his position, and being placed into direct competition for the job he previously held. So this means they don’t like what he brings to the table, and indicates that they want something more substantial immediately. My hope is, that Jones steps up level of play and surprises. But to put him through this looks like the fix is in. Ozzy (and Kiran) might need to actually be bad to keep Jones in there.

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[MissileMike]

Yikes- the jets are even more cursed than the bears. Feel bad for their fans and JF, assuming it's serious. But since it's the jets, it probably is.

[fleet]

Yikes- the jets are even more cursed than the bears. Feel bad for their fans and JF, assuming it's serious. But since it's the jets, it probably is.

Yeah they almost caught a big break. But, he’s OK

An apoplectic Greeny almost shoved KMart off the set to get him more information

KMart looks like her dog got struck and killed by a car

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[Dresden]

Most positions which had a starter in place already for a few years would be settled going into the season until further notice.. For at least the coming year. The Bears immediately put Braxton Jones into the hopper. Many people are saying they want Trapilo to win the job, but I think that’s the wrong idea. If I had my choice, Braxton Jones would get the job this season (assuming competency) so the Bears could build up his trade value, and compensation value. To read the tea leaves however, Jones is actively being targeted for immediate replacement both by having a SRP at his position, and being placed into direct competition for the job he previously held. So this means they don’t like what he brings to the table, and indicates that they want something more substantial immediately. My hope is, that Jones steps up level of play and surprises. But to put him through this looks like the fix is in. Ozzy (and Kiran) might need to actually be bad to keep Jones in there.

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I assume this has something to do with his contract situation too. The Bears have to decide whether he's worth a big contract in the near future and obviously would love it if they could get the same or better production with someone on a rookie contract. It makes sense on their part. If he's really worth a big new contract, ok, that's one thing, but if they have someone else who can do just as good and save them a bunch of money, they want to know that as well.

[Dresden]

Bears one of two teams to receive an A for their offseason:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/final-training-camps-open-time-130239479.html

[molepharmer]

Most positions which had a starter in place already for a few years would be settled going into the season until further notice.. For at least the coming year. The Bears immediately put Braxton Jones into the hopper. Many people are saying they want Trapilo to win the job, but I think that’s the wrong idea. If I had my choice, Braxton Jones would get the job this season (assuming competency) so the Bears could build up his trade value, and compensation value. To read the tea leaves however, Jones is actively being targeted for immediate replacement both by having a SRP at his position, and being placed into direct competition for the job he previously held. So this means they don’t like what he brings to the table, and indicates that they want something more substantial immediately. My hope is, that Jones steps up level of play and surprises. But to put him through this looks like the fix is in. Ozzy (and Kiran) might need to actually be bad to keep Jones in there.

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I assume this has something to do with his contract situation too. The Bears have to decide whether he's worth a big contract in the near future and obviously would love it if they could get the same or better production with someone on a rookie contract. It makes sense on their part. If he's really worth a big new contract, ok, that's one thing, but if they have someone else who can do just as good and save them a bunch of money, they want to know that as well.

Braxton is going to take fewer snaps these first couple of days simply because he's in a ramp-up period. And with a 3-man competition at LT, all three will get fewer snaps than if it was only a 2-man competition (duh), at least until one appears to be falling behind the other two. Despite the media's obsession and urgency with the LT position, Ben said this competition could take anywhere from three weeks to six weeks to work itself out.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Yikes- the jets are even more cursed than the bears. Feel bad for their fans and JF, assuming it's serious. But since it's the jets, it probably is.

Yeah they almost caught a big break. But, he’s OK

An apoplectic Greeny almost shoved KMart off the set to get him more information

KMart looks like her dog got struck and killed by a car

Watch on YouTube

I realize he was doing it for entertainment, but I didn’t like the tone he took with her at all.