Josh Giddey Thread 2.0

GoBlue72391 · Post #461 » by **GoBlue72391** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:44 pm

Chi town wrote:
Dez wrote:
Andi Obst wrote:
To be fair, Bulls fans have no experience with a front office that negotiates. This is new.

"Wait? We don't have to immediately offer you 10M more per season than you're worth with no competition? Why didn't anyone tell me that with Patrick Williams? F***!"

Yep.

PW should have gotten the Okoro deal 3/33.

5/90 with a player option is crazy.

What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

Chi town · Post #462 » by **Chi town** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 5:45 pm

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Dez wrote:
"Wait? We don't have to immediately offer you 10M more per season than you're worth with no competition? Why didn't anyone tell me that with Patrick Williams? F***!"

Yep.

PW should have gotten the Okoro deal 3/33.

5/90 with a player option is crazy.

What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Red8911 · Post #463 » by **Red8911** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:02 pm

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Dez wrote:
"Wait? We don't have to immediately offer you 10M more per season than you're worth with no competition? Why didn't anyone tell me that with Patrick Williams? F***!"

Yep.

PW should have gotten the Okoro deal 3/33.

5/90 with a player option is crazy.

What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

In a few years maybe, but no one wants him here for a few years.

GoBlue72391 · Post #464 » by **GoBlue72391** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:05 pm

Red8911 wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Yep.

PW should have gotten the Okoro deal 3/33.

5/90 with a player option is crazy.

What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

In a few years maybe, but no one wants him here for a few years.

Everyone wants him, he's only 23 and is constantly improving all whilst being on a bargain contract.

GoBlue72391 · Post #465 » by **GoBlue72391** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:05 pm

Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Yep.

PW should have gotten the Okoro deal 3/33.

5/90 with a player option is crazy.

What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Do people not realize I was joking?

MisterRoy · Post #466 » by **MisterRoy** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:27 pm

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Do people not realize I was joking?

What kind of forum do you think this is? There's no joking around allowed here.

Some people...

WesPeace · Post #467 » by **WesPeace** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:32 pm

Giddey - I kinda hoped he will settle for 25M per contract.. he still has time to cash in big time, still young

Chi town · Post #468 » by **Chi town** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:06 pm

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Do people not realize I was joking?

Nope.

I take everything you say quite literally

Muzbar · Post #469 » by **Muzbar** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:07 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Do people not realize I was joking?

This is grounds for getting blocked!

Ballerkingn23 · Post #470 » by **Ballerkingn23** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:12 am

21 per is what im hoping he has no leverage. 25 is the bottom line meet in the middle at 23.5 lets wait him out as long as possible

Muzbar · Post #471 » by **Muzbar** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:12 am

Ballerkingn23 wrote:21 per is what im hoping he has no leverage. 25 is the bottom line meet in the middle at 23.5 lets wait him out as long as possible

I don't see any possible way Giddey signs for under 25m per. It would be nice, but it also won't happen, IMO.

Ballerkingn23 · Post #472 » by **Ballerkingn23** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:30 am

Muzbar wrote:
Ballerkingn23 wrote:21 per is what im hoping he has no leverage. 25 is the bottom line meet in the middle at 23.5 lets wait him out as long as possible

I don't see any possible way Giddey signs for under 25m per. It would be nice, but it also won't happen, IMO.

He was only good the 2nd half of the year. So Imo not out of the realm of possibility. We’d just have to be firm but 25 will prb be the amount he accepts

Muzbar · Post #473 » by **Muzbar** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:50 am

Ballerkingn23 wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
Ballerkingn23 wrote:21 per is what im hoping he has no leverage. 25 is the bottom line meet in the middle at 23.5 lets wait him out as long as possible

I don't see any possible way Giddey signs for under 25m per. It would be nice, but it also won't happen, IMO.

He was only good the 2nd half of the year. So Imo not out of the realm of possibility. We’d just have to be firm but 25 will prb be the amount he accepts

Don't get me wrong. 25m per would be awesome. But the market seems to say otherwise.

I also get that he was very good in just the second half, but is that because he was finally given free reign rather than having to play within the pecking order? I'm hoping it's the former, but that play and their record during that time is what Giddeys camp will be using as somewhat leverage I'd imagine.

My guess is if the deal is 25m per or under he signs a shorter term deal (3yrs and possibly with a PO).

Chi town · Post #474 » by **Chi town** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:48 am

Looks like market value for Giddey would be 20-25M.

I think he goes 3/70 to bet on himself.

SfBull · Post #475 » by **SfBull** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:08 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:
Red8911 wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:What do you mean? That's a great deal. It's easily movable. It'll look like peanuts in a few years.

In a few years maybe, but no one wants him here for a few years.

Everyone wants him, he's only 23 and is constantly improving all whilst being on a bargain contract.

He isn't constantly improving.

SfBull · Post #476 » by **SfBull** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:11 am

Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
PW should have gotten 3/33 not 5/90

Do people not realize I was joking?

Nope.

I take everything you say quite literally

This franchise is going to stay irrelevant for a long time.It's sad because we have such a dedicated fanbase.

CROBulls · Post #477 » by **CROBulls** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:36 am

SfBull wrote:
Chi town wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Do people not realize I was joking?

Nope.

I take everything you say quite literally

This franchise is going to stay irrelevant for a long time.It's sad because we have such a dedicated fanbase.

This is true but only with bolded. This is not Reinsdorf's fault. Everybody would do what Reinsdorf does also if they had fanbase like ours. Easy money won on sheeps. No need to improve.

GoBlue72391 · Post #478 » by **GoBlue72391** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:56 am

SfBull wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
Red8911 wrote:In a few years maybe, but no one wants him here for a few years.

Everyone wants him, he's only 23 and is constantly improving all whilst being on a bargain contract.

He isn't constantly improving.

He's even improving while he sleeps. It's incredible.

Ctownbulls · Post #479 » by **Ctownbulls** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:56 pm

Honest question, if a team were interested in Giddey without cap space couldn't they facilitate a sign and trade? If so, it is telling that nobody is interested what so ever.

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DrModesty · Post #480 » by **DrModesty** » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:38 pm

Ctownbulls wrote:Honest question, if a team were interested in Giddey without cap space couldn't they facilitate a sign and trade? If so, it is telling that nobody is interested what so ever.

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Sign and trades for players in RFA don't usually make much sense.

From Chicago's perspective, if Giddey accepts a contract that would allow for Chicago to get any sort of positive value in return, it is a signal to Chicago that they should keep him at that price.

From another teams perspective they would have to pay Giddey enough to stop Chicago matching (indicating a bad deal) and additionally give the Bulls something they want in return.

If the team with the RFA (the Bulls in this case) is willing to sign and trade with you, it is a HUGE red flag.