Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

[Bulls69]

The usual rout of ND in a big game is underway. AL goes down the field on its first possession without even going to third down.

The Playoff committee needs stop force feeding ND on us they were blown out by Clemson a few weeks ago.

Yeah, happens year after year. ND has such a big national following, they figure it will be good for ratings. But how many people want to watch a snooze fest like that game v. AL, which was over after the first quarter pretty much? It's a shame because other deserving teams get shut out of the chance to play for a national title.

It was amusing listening to the announcers talking pre-game about how this year would be different, about how ND has gotten so much better and is ready to take on the big teams. Then Alabama goes down and scores the first three times it has the ball without hardly breaking a sweat, and the game's over. It's just a money grab, and everyone knows it.

But the committee acts like the Irish are entitled to a playoff berth usually by the end of the first quarter the game is over, this is first time I can recalled getting their hat handed to them a game earlier yet you put them in the playoff's.

[patryk7754]

with the jags getting the number 1 pick minshew will be available and with how cash strapped the bears will be in the offseason, I think he's our best option. He'll get paid about 850k and he's better than any other cheap options we'll have. Ideally we would let Trubisky walk and trade Foles (colts would probably be the only option.)

Outside of that, the only moves the bears will make will be to create cap space to resign Robinson. I think those cuts will be Massie, Skrine, and Graham. Hicks will be someone to look out for as well because we'd save 10.5m but I don't think that'll happen. Realistically, that's about all the bears can do unless they get real creative.

One "major" move I'd like to see is the Bears packaging Miller and the 1st to move up for Jamare Chase. I think he's the best WR in this draft but with him sitting out and Devonta Smith and Kyle Pitts having such outstanding seasons, I think they both go before him and he could drop low enough for us to be able to trade up. In the second round, I'd like to take Walker Little. He could be the best Olineman in the draft, imo and with the Pac 12 not playing many games (if any) I thinks its realistic chance he drops to the 2nd.

Minshew
Robinson/Chase/Mooney
Kmet/Harris
Monty/Cohen/Patterson
Leno/Whitehair/Mustiphar/Daniels/Little

Hicks/Goldman/Nicolas
Mack/Smith/Travathan/Quinn
Fuller/Johnson/Jackson/Gibson

[Dresden]

I guess Mathew Stafford is out of the question?

[dice]

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

again, mitch had an even better stretch in 2008...against better defenses. nick foles has obviously had better stretches. didn't stop either one of them from being placed on the trash heap in the interim

pay trubisky this offseason and he'll be without his two favorite targets next season (robinson and graham). either way, not likely to see many 30+ point games going forward

I agree with some if this, but there are other factors to consider.

I dont think anyone us saying to pay Trubisky a massive, multi year contract. I think you have to at least see what his market is and then see if he would be willing to sign a shorter incentive rich deal. You can't treat him as "Oh, he isn't Mahomes so ditch him"...I think you have to reasonably assess how good he is right now, compared to other options. If he won't sign a deal like that, or doesnt want to come back, cool.

He's better then Foles, he'll be better then almost all of the FA options and he probably will be a better fit the whatever rookie QB we end up drafting in the short term.

They are in a tough spot, but I'm not opposed to a reunion, depending on what the details are.

he may be better than foles, particularly behind a patchwork O-line, but why would you pay him substantially more than foles and require cuts at other positions to make it happen?

[dice]

with the jags getting the number 1 pick minshew will be available

good lord

mike glennon lost his job to trubisky
trubisky lost his job to foles
foles lost his job to minshew (and trubisky)
minshew lost his job to...mike glennon

what is this, the fifth circle of hell?

[dice]

The Playoff committee needs stop force feeding ND on us they were blown out by Clemson a few weeks ago.

Yeah, happens year after year. ND has such a big national following, they figure it will be good for ratings. But how many people want to watch a snooze fest like that game v. AL, which was over after the first quarter pretty much? It's a shame because other deserving teams get shut out of the chance to play for a national title.

It was amusing listening to the announcers talking pre-game about how this year would be different, about how ND has gotten so much better and is ready to take on the big teams. Then Alabama goes down and scores the first three times it has the ball without hardly breaking a sweat, and the game's over. It's just a money grab, and everyone knows it.

But the committee acts like the Irish are entitled to a playoff berth usually by the end of the first quarter the game is over, this is first time I can recalled getting their hat handed to them a game earlier yet you put them in the playoff's.

the playoff selection committee is not tasked with ensuring high ratings, folks. that's conspiracy theory stuff. doesn't hold water. none of the members, who represent schools from all over the country, has a ND connection. the reality is that nobody deserved the 4 spot more than ND save maybe cincy. and cincy didn't prove much in their bowl game. odds are that bama would have smacked them around too

there's not much evidence of a pro-ND bias historically when it comes to pollsters, committees, you name it. not even when it comes to pre-season rankings. i've looked into it

in 1993 undefeated ND beat an undefeated and dominant FSU head-to-head at home near the end of the season. ND then lost at home the following week to a really good BC team. both FSU and ND finished the season 11-1, ND had the tougher schedule and won the head-to-head, but the national title was given to FSU (deservedly so, IMO). that would not have been the case if there was a pro-ND bias

[patryk7754]

with the jags getting the number 1 pick minshew will be available

good lord

mike glennon lost his job to trubisky
trubisky lost his job to foles
foles lost his job to minshew (and trubisky)
minshew lost his job to...mike glennon

what is this, the fifth circle of hell?

minshew didn't lose his job. He got hurt then they decided to stick with Glennon to tank. Minshew was 22 of 27 with 2 TDs on 12/20 after coming back from injury. He doesn't get credit for how good he is but on that contract with his slightly above average skills, he's a great and realistic option

[patryk7754]

I guess Mathew Stafford is out of the question?

will probably cost too much

[dice]

with the jags getting the number 1 pick minshew will be available

good lord

mike glennon lost his job to trubisky
trubisky lost his job to foles
foles lost his job to minshew (and trubisky)
minshew lost his job to...mike glennon

what is this, the fifth circle of hell?

minshew didn't lose his job. He got hurt then they decided to stick with Glennon to tank. Minshew was 22 of 27 with 2 TDs on 12/20 after coming back from injury. He doesn't get credit for how good he is but on that contract with his slightly above average skills, he's a great and realistic option

he's beneath trubisky in QBR this season, was barely above him when both were awful last season, and trubisky deservedly made the pro bowl 2 years ago. their markets are likely similar, w/ trubisky probably a bit higher. the difference is that mitch will cost $ and minshew will cost other assets

[Chi town]

Anyway to watch a good stream of the bears game tomorrow? DM please.

Have GamePass but don’t want to have to wait until after the game.

[Bulls69]

Yeah, happens year after year. ND has such a big national following, they figure it will be good for ratings. But how many people want to watch a snooze fest like that game v. AL, which was over after the first quarter pretty much? It's a shame because other deserving teams get shut out of the chance to play for a national title.

It was amusing listening to the announcers talking pre-game about how this year would be different, about how ND has gotten so much better and is ready to take on the big teams. Then Alabama goes down and scores the first three times it has the ball without hardly breaking a sweat, and the game's over. It's just a money grab, and everyone knows it.

But the committee acts like the Irish are entitled to a playoff berth usually by the end of the first quarter the game is over, this is first time I can recalled getting their hat handed to them a game earlier yet you put them in the playoff's.

the playoff selection committee is not tasked with ensuring high ratings, folks. that's conspiracy theory stuff. doesn't hold water. none of the members, who represent schools from all over the country, has a ND connection. the reality is that nobody deserved the 4 spot more than ND save maybe cincy. and cincy didn't prove much in their bowl game. odds are that bama would have smacked them around too

there's not much evidence of a pro-ND bias historically when it comes to pollsters, committees, you name it. not even when it comes to pre-season rankings. i've looked into it

in 1993 undefeated ND beat an undefeated and dominant FSU head-to-head at home near the end of the season. ND then lost at home the following week to a really good BC team. both FSU and ND finished the season 11-1, ND had the tougher schedule and won the head-to-head, but the national title was given to FSU (deservedly so, IMO). that would not have been the case if there was a pro-ND bias

We can agree to disagree but I can't recall a team in league championship game getting blown out yet the are put in the playoffs, the Irish should have not been in the playoffs.

[Susan]

Anyway to watch a good stream of the bears game tomorrow? DM please.

Have GamePass but don’t want to have to wait until after the game.

I'll get you if you need it before the game.

How we feeling? Feels like a fine day to slay a dragon! BEAR DOWN

[MisterRoy]

Wentz wants out of Philly. Do we try to make a play?


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[thedarkstark]

Why does this fanbase think other teams castoffs are the answer to all of our problems? I am so tired of seeing names like Darnold, Minshew, and Wentz floated around.

Wentz is making $33million a year, Darnold will be due for an extension next season. Best case scenario you're kicking the can down the road a year, worst case you're stuck with an albatross contract and guaranteed 3 years of suck.

The answer in the short-term is Mitch Trubisky, the long-term answer is a developmental qb that you draft in one of the next few drafts.

[MisterRoy]

Why does this fanbase think other teams castoffs are the answer to all of our problems? I am so tired of seeing names like Darnold, Minshew, and Wentz floated around.

Wentz is making $33million a year, Darnold will be due for an extension next season. Best case scenario you're kicking the can down the road a year, worst case you're stuck with an albatross contract and guaranteed 3 years of suck.

The answer in the short-term is Mitch Trubisky, the long-term answer is a developmental qb that you draft in one of the next few drafts.

Yikes! I am new to this thread. Just asked a question...


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[Susan]

Why does this fanbase think other teams castoffs are the answer to all of our problems? I am so tired of seeing names like Darnold, Minshew, and Wentz floated around.

Wentz is making $33million a year, Darnold will be due for an extension next season. Best case scenario you're kicking the can down the road a year, worst case you're stuck with an albatross contract and guaranteed 3 years of suck.

The answer in the short-term is Mitch Trubisky, the long-term answer is a developmental qb that you draft in one of the next few drafts.

Yikes! I am new to this thread. Just asked a question...


Sent from somewhere you've never been.

lol, I think people are just sick of that Minshew/Foles/Glennon world.

I'd roll with Darnold to see what Nagy/Lazor would be able to mold him into.

Jimmy G might be out in SF, I'd be fine with them bringing him in if we can't work with Mitch. His injury issues are a problem though.

But my option A is finding a way to keep Mitch/ARob and keep this thing rolling.

[Susan]

Wentz wants out of Philly. Do we try to make a play?


Sent from somewhere you've never been.

If Philly is willing to give up multiple first rounders, yeah. Truly want nothing to do with him.

[Chi town]

Anyway to watch a good stream of the bears game tomorrow? DM please.

Have GamePass but don’t want to have to wait until after the game.

I'll get you if you need it before the game.

How we feeling? Feels like a fine day to slay a dragon! BEAR DOWN

Thanks! Will need it. Much appreciated.

This game is all about Bears pass rush. If we get some turnovers and keep Packers out of the end zone early we will score points and get confidence. If we get down a couple TDs early we are in trouble.

[fleet]

Wentz wants out of Philly. Do we try to make a play?


Sent from somewhere you've never been.

Perhaps. TBD. Maybe. If.

[fleet]

Whoe we got a packer left tackle out. Possible chance we can hold them under 30 points.