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Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

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If we manage to get 3rd pick who do you draft?

Evan Mobley
21
14%
Jalen Suggs
89
61%
Terrence Clarke
1
1%
Jonathan Kuminga
9
6%
Ziaire Williams
1
1%
Usman Guruba
2
1%
Jalen Johnson
2
1%
Terrence Clarke
0
No votes
BJ Boston
3
2%
None of the Above
18
12%
 
Total votes: 146

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Post#481 » by Chi town » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:40 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:I think Keon, Wagner, Jalen Green, and Moody are all pretty closely grouped in that tier 2 5-8.

Nah.

Green could go #1. Watch him rise.
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Post#482 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I think Keon, Wagner, Jalen Green, and Moody are all pretty closely grouped in that tier 2 5-8.

Nah.

Green could go #1. Watch him rise.

no he couldn't. Unless some GM is interested in early (forced) retirement.
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Post#483 » by Am2626 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:33 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I think Keon, Wagner, Jalen Green, and Moody are all pretty closely grouped in that tier 2 5-8.

Nah.

Green could go #1. Watch him rise.

no he couldn't. Unless some GM is interested in early (forced) retirement.


Yeah I don’t see any possible way Green goes 1. He is going to go somewhere between picks 3 and 5. There is a chance that Kuminga goes 1 but that also isn’t likely.
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Post#484 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:55 pm

My loterry predictions: 1.Cunningham 2.Mobley 3.Suggs 4.Kumminga 5.J.Green 6.J.Johnson 7.Z.Williams 8.S.Barnes 9.K.Johnson 10.U.Garuba 11.M.Moody 12.J.Bouknight 13.G.Brown 14.B.Boston.
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#485 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:33 pm

Round 2 target?


Played at Gonzaga last season, which he won the WCC player of the year award.

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Post#486 » by Jcool0 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:37 pm

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Post#487 » by Brothaman33 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:26 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter


And he had his second triple double today.

He is playing himself into the lottery, potentially where we may be picking at...
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Post#488 » by greenl » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:18 am

Am2626 wrote: I’m sure there are NBA Executives that will want no part with this guy as he has quit on his team and commitments going back to high school. If he quits when things are tough or isn’t getting what he wants how is he going to deal with a losing team or culture? Is he going to give up on his team and try and force a trade? I see his draft stock slipping which will cost him millions of dollars so doing what he thinks is right can be completely different than doing what’s best for him.


You might be correct. This isn't a hill I'm willing to die on. Still, I think the "quit on his team" angle is off base- though I can see how some old school types will frame it that way. College basketball is a business. When it's not advantageous for either side to continue the relationship- it ends. He did the calculus that it was in his best interest to leave. Would he quit on a team that he had a contractual obligation to? I don't know. But if his potential is judged sufficient- NBA GM's will roll the dice.
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#489 » by DroseReturnChi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:16 am

Brothaman33 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter


And he had his second triple double today.

He is playing himself into the lottery, potentially where we may be picking at...


he wont touch lotto but Bulls would be stupid to not draft him low like taking flier with Nunn.
Bulls need to pay attention to chicago products.
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Post#490 » by Jcool0 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:19 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Brothaman33 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter


And he had his second triple double today.

He is playing himself into the lottery, potentially where we may be picking at...


he wont touch lotto but Bulls would be stupid to not draft him low like taking flier with Nunn.
Bulls need to pay attention to chicago products.


If you don't think he touches the lotto. Then he is a lock to go in the lottery.
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#491 » by No-Man » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:45 pm

Green vs Keon is so tough, those 2 vs Kuminga and Ziaire too, that's almost a mini tier after Cade, Suggs and Mobley, with Moody, Bouknight and prob Mathurin closing the top10, I like Kai Jones, Wagner, Aldama, Springer, Kispert, Garuba, Sengün, Nix, Cooper and I guess Jalen Johnson or maybe Hukporti for crazy upside next for top20, Barnes is probably the guy who is consensus lotto that I am lowest on, him, Christopher, Boston, Brown, Giddey, DJ,... 20s
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Post#492 » by Chi town » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:39 pm

https://youtu.be/JHry6HQquaU

Ayo is the prototype PG we want next to Lavine. Great defender. Great playmaker. Can get his own shot.

I’d take Ayo at 10.
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Post#493 » by Am2626 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:17 pm

greenl wrote:
Am2626 wrote: I’m sure there are NBA Executives that will want no part with this guy as he has quit on his team and commitments going back to high school. If he quits when things are tough or isn’t getting what he wants how is he going to deal with a losing team or culture? Is he going to give up on his team and try and force a trade? I see his draft stock slipping which will cost him millions of dollars so doing what he thinks is right can be completely different than doing what’s best for him.


You might be correct. This isn't a hill I'm willing to die on. Still, I think the "quit on his team" angle is off base- though I can see how some old school types will frame it that way. College basketball is a business. When it's not advantageous for either side to continue the relationship- it ends. He did the calculus that it was in his best interest to leave. Would he quit on a team that he had a contractual obligation to? I don't know. But if his potential is judged sufficient- NBA GM's will roll the dice.


Yes agreed but this guy is not Zion or a can’t miss prospect. This year exposed a lot of holes in his game and this just is not a good look for him. Just like this is a business for him it’s even more of a business for an NBA Franchise. Character does matter. It defines you are as a professional and how dependable you are for your team. I look at a guy like Zion where everyone was pressuring him to shut things down yet he comes back. Even Kobe commented that he believes guys should make the decision on whether you want to go to college or not but once you make that decision you should honor your commitment. I’ve provided a link to the article below.

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/02/28/kobe-bryant-believes-zion-williamson-should-play-after-injury/
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Post#494 » by Chi town » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:04 am

Ayo is clutch too.

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Post#495 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:22 pm

Best case scenerio for Bulls. Being play in team, still staying in loterry, jump in top 10, 8-10 pick in draft, beating 8 seed in playin games and making to the playoffs, with 8 pick in the draft selecting Scottie Barnes.
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Post#496 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:35 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Best case scenerio for Bulls. Being play in team, still staying in loterry, jump in top 10, 8-10 pick in draft, beating 8 seed in playin games and making to the playoffs, with 8 pick in the draft selecting Scottie Barnes.

Barnes is mediocre. Can't shoot at all. Hard pass.
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Post#497 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Best case scenerio for Bulls. Being play in team, still staying in loterry, jump in top 10, 8-10 pick in draft, beating 8 seed in playin games and making to the playoffs, with 8 pick in the draft selecting Scottie Barnes.

Barnes is mediocre. Can't shoot at all. Hard pass.
He is new Dray Green. Way better defender, two way player than White and Carter.
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Post#498 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:22 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Best case scenerio for Bulls. Being play in team, still staying in loterry, jump in top 10, 8-10 pick in draft, beating 8 seed in playin games and making to the playoffs, with 8 pick in the draft selecting Scottie Barnes.

Barnes is mediocre. Can't shoot at all. Hard pass.
He is new Dray Green. Way better defender, two way player than White and Carter.

You'd get laughed off the phone if you tried to trade White or WCJ for a top 10 pick.

If you like Scottie Barnes, just sign James Johnson for cheap in Free Agency. Same player.
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Post#499 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:44 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Barnes is mediocre. Can't shoot at all. Hard pass.
He is new Dray Green. Way better defender, two way player than White and Carter.

You'd get laughed off the phone if you tried to trade White or WCJ for a top 10 pick.

If you like Scottie Barnes, just sign James Johnson for cheap in Free Agency. Same player.
You cannot get frp for White or Carter they are below average Nba players. Barnes is two way wing with playmaking potential and all defensive team upside. If he is really bad in Nba he is James Johnson. I see Siakam/Green/Og type of player in his prime. You never know for sure but i am buying Barnes stock.
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Post#500 » by Muzbar » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:51 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Best case scenerio for Bulls. Being play in team, still staying in loterry, jump in top 10, 8-10 pick in draft, beating 8 seed in playin games and making to the playoffs, with 8 pick in the draft selecting Scottie Barnes.

You can't jump into the top 10, that's not how the lottery works.
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