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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#481 » by dougthonus » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:34 pm

kodo wrote:Lavine's long term contract may actually be a benefit to his trade value due to the new TV deal which dramatically increases the cap, making all current long contracts a bargain. Siakam's new deal pays him almost $50M a year, but by 2028 he will be actually making less % of the cap than he is now at $37M. It's considered a great deal from a team perspective. Lavine doesn't make anything close to that and goes to 2027.

In 2028 the cap is expected to be $206M, Lavine ~$44M next 4 years, or 21% of a $206M cap. 21% of the current cap would be $30M, which is what Jordan Poole makes ($27M-$34M) as a starting SG. If he stays healthy his contract is going to look more normal year after year...although that's a big "if."

TBH, it's a bad time to trade him. Not only is his on-court value at his lowest, but in a year or two his contract has both less money owed and the amount will look smaller & smaller as we approach the $206M cap. But when have we ever traded players at the right time.


I thought the same thing so did some math earlier. In the end, 30.5%, 29.6%, 28.7% are his percentages the next 3 years (he has 3 years left not 4).

Not sure that's going to move the needle that much, though it does get a tiny better.

I generally think if we can wait it would be better to wait, not sure from the human side of the equation if that's really a viable option though. A lot of reporting seems to be that the Bulls and Zach are done with each other.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#482 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:30 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:An alleged rumors is that the Kings are in the mix for both Zach and Alex, for the typical offer of Barnes, Heurter and picks (including this years 13th pick). I'd probably want some additional seconds if I'm being honest, but it does several things, saves money (not that we share care as fans, but ownership would like that), Barnes and Heurters contract has 2 years left, which currently aligns with Vuc's contract, and possibly DeMar's if they can convince him on a 2 year extension, but more importantly, we can replenish some of our draft assets if the Kings are willing to offer several picks which most teams don't seem to want to offer (which I understand).

Yeah, it's not the best deal, and it would set us back some, but as a franchise that is going nowhere, taking a few steps back, knowing that we now have draft capital wouldn't be the worst plan moving forward.


I'd probably take it, but yeah, it feels like you're essentially just salary dumping Zach and Caruso gets you the pick in this situation. The Bulls should be pushing for a 2nd future 1st.

It seems the key thing here is whether the Bulls will actually have multiple suitors for Zach or if it's going to be a "take what you can get" situation. I know some people prefer to hang onto him to try to rehabilitate his value, but all the reporting has been that both sides want this over with now, so I don't think it'll happen. And obviously, there's risk in that plan, too, of Zach hurting himself again.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#483 » by biggestbullsfan » Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:46 pm

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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#484 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:02 pm

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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.
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Post#485 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:11 pm

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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


Normally people on here are mad about the Bulls not working the phones to get deals done. Now they're mad that they are!
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#486 » by sco » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:53 pm

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I guess the question is whether we need to give up additional assets to get rid of him (which is rediculous, but the sort of nonsense I expect from AK).

No DET? Bummer.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#487 » by Guru » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:02 pm

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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


Normally people on here are mad about the Bulls not working the phones to get deals done. Now they're mad that they are!


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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#488 » by Dan Z » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:30 pm

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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


My guess is that those teams will want to wait until after free agency to make a move for Zach (if they make one at all). The Kings want to see what happens with Monk. The Sixers seem interested in Paul George. And the Magic...why go after Zach when PG is what they need?
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#489 » by Red8911 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:49 pm

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This is great news. Last time reporters like Charania were saying that there’s no interest for Zach with his contract . 15 different offers already proves that they are wrong and there still is a market for Zach.

We don’t know exactly what the offers are but at least now it’s looking like there’s a better chance they can actually get a good deal out of this and not salary dump.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#490 » by sco » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:52 pm

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This is great news. Last time reporters like Charania were saying that there’s no interest for Zach with his contract . 15 different offers already proves that they are wrong and there still is a market for Zach.

We don’t know exactly what the offers are but at least now it’s looking like there’s a better chance they can actually get a good deal out of this and not salary dump.

I read it that the Bulls were proposing the transactions, not that they were received with any interest whatsoever.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#491 » by boozapalooza » Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:59 pm

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This is great news. Last time reporters like Charania were saying that there’s no interest for Zach with his contract . 15 different offers already proves that they are wrong and there still is a market for Zach.

We don’t know exactly what the offers are but at least now it’s looking like there’s a better chance they can actually get a good deal out of this and not salary dump.


KC has just added the Jazz as a 4th team that is interested. First I’ve seen them linked to Zach. Collins/Sexton for Zach works salary wise, though I would want #10 or a future pick included

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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#492 » by Guru » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:00 pm

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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


My guess is that those teams will want to wait until after free agency to make a move for Zach (if they make one at all). The Kings want to see what happens with Monk. The Sixers seem interested in Paul George. And the Magic...why go after Zach when PG is what they need?


I believe the kings are somehow restricted in what they can pay Monk and he can get more on the market....I didn't really understand it though
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#493 » by jump » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:12 pm

Dan Z wrote:
Chi town wrote:
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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


My guess is that those teams will want to wait until after free agency to make a move for Zach (if they make one at all). The Kings want to see what happens with Monk. The Sixers seem interested in Paul George. And the Magic...why go after Zach when PG is what they need?


Fortunately, only one team gets PG. 76ers want him, Magic wants him and the Clippers want him. If he leaves the Clippers, there’s talk they will go after DDR. So there’s that. Whoever doesn’t sign PG, will likely be looking at Zach as the next best option. It’s gonna be a fun summer.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#494 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:15 pm

DDR to the Clipps would be divine!!!
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#495 » by jump » Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:18 pm

Chi town wrote:
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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


Not desperate at all. It’s called creative. It’s no secret that we want to move Zach. The entire league has know this for over a year. AKME are finally getting to it.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#496 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:08 pm

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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#497 » by Jkam31 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:14 pm

Chi town wrote:
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Desperate GM. So bad.

At least you can see what he thinks he can get. Mid 1st for Zach.

If a deal happens I bet it’s to the Kings for Huerter Barnes and #13. AK gets vets to win. One year shorter deals. More flexibility.

If I’m Pat no way I resign if DDR resigns and Barnes is coming here.


No way we give up 13. For Lavine contact especially not knowing monk’s situation
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#498 » by aguifs » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:25 pm

Get your asses ready. We'll be fleeced
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#499 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:30 pm

Plz don’t trade Zach now.

Giddey will make him look like an MVP.
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Re: Potential Zach Trade Partners? Playoff Edition. 

Post#500 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 20, 2024 11:52 pm

KC saying Jazz and Sixers active for Zach.

I’d do both for their pick and cap relief.

Could also see DDR going to Sixers if Zach goes elsewhere.

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