NBA Trade Thread #11

[HomoSapien]

Jaime Jacquez has taken a step backwards this year. I really loved him his rookie year. Would Miami consider either of these offers?:

Vuc and Craig for Jacquez and Duncan Robinson

or

LaVine and Duarte for Jacquez, Rozier, and Robinson

[Infinity2152]

Jaime Jacquez has taken a step backwards this year. I really loved him his rookie year. Would Miami either of these offers?:

Vuc and Craig for Jacquez and Duncan Robinson

or

LaVine and Duarte for Jacquez, Rozier, and Robinson

I'd be on board with the first one. Miami might consider it as a way to keep Jimmy, He's been asking for help for years. We talked earlier about the feasibility of playing Bam and Vuc together, personally I think it could work if Vuc keeps his shooting up. Gives them another 20 pt scorer to add to Butler and Herro. Would prefer getting Ware somehow in the deal, Jaquez plays in the same spaces as Matas.

Think Vuc is pretty well regarded in the league, is a pretty big name, and would qualify for "See, we got you some help, so stay!"

[Chi town]

Agree. Even with this current team, of the team was healthy, they'd have a pretty stable floor, I think, just not much of a ceiling. Move Vuc for a defensive minded center, re-sign Giddey, Ball is role player healthy next year, Matas is any good, we're probably a big move from contention with a solid floor.

We swap out Vuc for a defensive C and I think we gain way more than what we lose in his offense.

I think we will resign Zo to a cheap 1+1 deal too.

One reason I want to trade Vuc is that I've been super impressed by Smith's play and would want to give him a good look at starting gig before I gave up any assets for a different guy. Dude has shown me 2-way talent. I really just wonder if his size will impact his durability.

And I totally agree on Ball. If he can show leg durability through the end of the season, I'd be all over signing him.

Sticks is awfully fragile. He seems me to be out all the time with something. Don’t think he will ever be a starter.

[Chi town]

Jaime Jacquez has taken a step backwards this year. I really loved him his rookie year. Would Miami either of these offers?:

Vuc and Craig for Jacquez and Duncan Robinson

or

LaVine and Duarte for Jacquez, Rozier, and Robinson

I'd be on board with the first one. Miami might consider it as a way to keep Jimmy, He's been asking for help for years. We talked earlier about the feasibility of playing Bam and Vuc together, personally I think it could work if Vuc keeps his shooting up. Gives them another 20 pt scorer to add to Butler and Herro. Would prefer getting Ware somehow in the deal, Jaquez plays in the same spaces as Matas.

Think Vuc is pretty well regarded in the league, is a pretty big name, and would qualify for "See, we got you some help, so stay!"

Considering Billy plays Giddey at SF with two or three guards at all times I think we are set at the 3/4 with Pat Giddey and Buz.

We need a rim running defensive stud at C and a first option. We are set with good rotation players without a first option or defensive anchor.

[Infinity2152]

Jaime Jacquez has taken a step backwards this year. I really loved him his rookie year. Would Miami either of these offers?:

Vuc and Craig for Jacquez and Duncan Robinson

or

LaVine and Duarte for Jacquez, Rozier, and Robinson

I'd be on board with the first one. Miami might consider it as a way to keep Jimmy, He's been asking for help for years. We talked earlier about the feasibility of playing Bam and Vuc together, personally I think it could work if Vuc keeps his shooting up. Gives them another 20 pt scorer to add to Butler and Herro. Would prefer getting Ware somehow in the deal, Jaquez plays in the same spaces as Matas.

Think Vuc is pretty well regarded in the league, is a pretty big name, and would qualify for "See, we got you some help, so stay!"

Considering Billy plays Giddey at SF with two or three guards at all times I think we are set at the 3/4 with Pat Giddey and Buz.

We need a rim running defensive stud at C and a first option. We are set with good rotation players without a first option or defensive anchor.

Why I said I'd prefer Ware. Any of Pat, Matas or Jaquez could be sixth men, nobody's "have to start" level yet. Given Pat's frequent time off, we'd still only have two forwards a lot of the time, lol. We don't have any real rotation forwards besides Matas and Pat. We could look for a center in a separate deal or FA. Not sure if Jaquez is worth taking Robinson's contract though, even if it's only partially guaranteed next season. That's the biggest problem for me, be more with it if contract was full expiring.

I agree we don't "need" Jaquez. Just realized he's only 6'6", listed at guard on ESPN site.

[Muzbar]

I'd be on board with the first one. Miami might consider it as a way to keep Jimmy, He's been asking for help for years. We talked earlier about the feasibility of playing Bam and Vuc together, personally I think it could work if Vuc keeps his shooting up. Gives them another 20 pt scorer to add to Butler and Herro. Would prefer getting Ware somehow in the deal, Jaquez plays in the same spaces as Matas.

Think Vuc is pretty well regarded in the league, is a pretty big name, and would qualify for "See, we got you some help, so stay!"

Considering Billy plays Giddey at SF with two or three guards at all times I think we are set at the 3/4 with Pat Giddey and Buz.

We need a rim running defensive stud at C and a first option. We are set with good rotation players without a first option or defensive anchor.

Why I said I'd prefer Ware. Any of Pat, Matas or Jaquez could be sixth men, nobody's "have to start" level yet. Given Pat's frequent time off, we'd still only have two forwards a lot of the time, lol. We don't have any real rotation forwards besides Matas and Pat. We could look for a center in a separate deal or FA.

I'd absolutely prefer Ware in any deal with Miami.

[Donkedave]

Considering Billy plays Giddey at SF with two or three guards at all times I think we are set at the 3/4 with Pat Giddey and Buz.

We need a rim running defensive stud at C and a first option. We are set with good rotation players without a first option or defensive anchor.

Why I said I'd prefer Ware. Any of Pat, Matas or Jaquez could be sixth men, nobody's "have to start" level yet. Given Pat's frequent time off, we'd still only have two forwards a lot of the time, lol. We don't have any real rotation forwards besides Matas and Pat. We could look for a center in a separate deal or FA.

I'd absolutely prefer Ware in any deal with Miami.

Would have to be a deal around
Vuch + Carter/Duarte for Rozier +Ware
Vuch + Terry/Craig for Robinson + Ware

Not sure Miami do this,

If they would do a trade here, where do the bulls try and flip Rozier/Robinson?

[Muzbar]

Why I said I'd prefer Ware. Any of Pat, Matas or Jaquez could be sixth men, nobody's "have to start" level yet. Given Pat's frequent time off, we'd still only have two forwards a lot of the time, lol. We don't have any real rotation forwards besides Matas and Pat. We could look for a center in a separate deal or FA.

I'd absolutely prefer Ware in any deal with Miami.

Would have to be a deal around
Vuch + Carter/Duarte for Rozier +Ware
Vuch + Terry/Craig for Robinson + Ware

Not sure Miami do this,

If they would do a trade here, where do the bulls try and flip Rozier/Robinson?

Don't trade for Rozier. DuncRob you can just keep, he's only got 1.5 years left and won't affect wins. I agree the Heat likely won't do it, I still don't see the fit on Miami that everyone else does.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Miami rarely gives up on young players. I do like the idea of going after young/unproven players that have not exactly panned out or in situations where they can't get playing time.

EX: Leonard Miller has no spot on the Timberwolves due to their depth, he is a 6'11" forward with a 7'2" wingspan and has been impressive in the G League averaging 24 PPG, 11.6 REB, 3.3 AST, and 2 stocks. (FWIW, his older brother just signed a 2-way deal with the Bulls). Not sure what it would cost to get him. Bulls only have the Portland pick, doubt they trade him for one or two 2nds.

[Chi town]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278587/Kings-Have-Made-Trade-Inquiries-On-Zach-LaVine-Brandon-Ingram-Cam-Thomas-Kyle-Kuzma

Kangz called about Zach. Keegan Murray is a great buy low candidate. Kings want to win to keep Fox. Problem is you need his contract to get Lavine and he is Fox’s best friend.

Kangz screwed themselves trading for DDR and there is no way anyone wants that contract.

[Donkedave]

I'd absolutely prefer Ware in any deal with Miami.

Would have to be a deal around
Vuch + Carter/Duarte for Rozier +Ware
Vuch + Terry/Craig for Robinson + Ware

Not sure Miami do this,

If they would do a trade here, where do the bulls try and flip Rozier/Robinson?

Don't trade for Rozier. DuncRob you can just keep, he's only got 1.5 years left and won't affect wins. I agree the Heat likely won't do it, I still don't see the fit on Miami that everyone else does.

Noticed the other day Robinson has an early termination on his contract for next year. GTD only 9.9m of the 19.9m. I don’t know if that is a club or player or both thing

[2weekswithpay]

Would have to be a deal around
Vuch + Carter/Duarte for Rozier +Ware
Vuch + Terry/Craig for Robinson + Ware

Not sure Miami do this,

If they would do a trade here, where do the bulls try and flip Rozier/Robinson?

Don't trade for Rozier. DuncRob you can just keep, he's only got 1.5 years left and won't affect wins. I agree the Heat likely won't do it, I still don't see the fit on Miami that everyone else does.

Noticed the other day Robinson has an early termination on his contract for next year. GTD only 9.9m of the 19.9m. I don’t know if that is a club or player or both thing

It's more like a player option. Robinson has to decline his ETO.

[Muzbar]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278587/Kings-Have-Made-Trade-Inquiries-On-Zach-LaVine-Brandon-Ingram-Cam-Thomas-Kyle-Kuzma

Kangz called about Zach. Keegan Murray is a great buy low candidate. Kings want to win to keep Fox. Problem is you need his contract to get Lavine and he is Fox’s best friend.

Kangz screwed themselves trading for DDR and there is no way anyone wants that contract.

DeRozan would still have value I think, his contract isn't that bad.

If you make it a 3-team trade with DeMar heading to another team that sends contracts back (Lakers?). Then Huerter/DeRozan equivalent salary back in sufficient works contract wise (I still don't think they'd include Murray).

Zach is a much better fit on that team than DeRozan, Kings fans were celebrating when they got DDR, that has certainly changed now.

[Guru]

Apparently, Memphis wanted Finney Smith but wasn't willing to go for the 3 2nd Rounders
Would you do Konchar, Kennard and 2 seconds for Vuc?

[Chi town]

Apparently, Memphis wanted Finney Smith but wasn't willing to go for the 3 2nd Rounders
Would you do Konchar, Kennard and 2 seconds for Vuc?

No but I would for a 1st in this draft. That’s what they offered LAL. Top 17 protected.

MEM doesn’t want Vuc.

I do think Torrey Craig would make the same impact as DFS but the league doesn’t.

[Chi town]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278587/Kings-Have-Made-Trade-Inquiries-On-Zach-LaVine-Brandon-Ingram-Cam-Thomas-Kyle-Kuzma

Kangz called about Zach. Keegan Murray is a great buy low candidate. Kings want to win to keep Fox. Problem is you need his contract to get Lavine and he is Fox’s best friend.

Kangz screwed themselves trading for DDR and there is no way anyone wants that contract.

DeRozan would still have value I think, his contract isn't that bad.

If you make it a 3-team trade with DeMar heading to another team that sends contracts back (Lakers?). Then Huerter/DeRozan equivalent salary back in sufficient works contract wise (I still don't think they'd include Murray).

Zach is a much better fit on that team than DeRozan, Kings fans were celebrating when they got DDR, that has certainly changed now.

I’d love to see the Kings get desperate. Trade DDR out in a 3 way to LAL and take back a contract like Vincent and Vandy and Bulls get Huerter and filler with their 1st.

I think Fox Lavine Sabonis Murray Monk is much better than the DDR fit.

[Muzbar]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278587/Kings-Have-Made-Trade-Inquiries-On-Zach-LaVine-Brandon-Ingram-Cam-Thomas-Kyle-Kuzma

Kangz called about Zach. Keegan Murray is a great buy low candidate. Kings want to win to keep Fox. Problem is you need his contract to get Lavine and he is Fox’s best friend.

Kangz screwed themselves trading for DDR and there is no way anyone wants that contract.

DeRozan would still have value I think, his contract isn't that bad.

If you make it a 3-team trade with DeMar heading to another team that sends contracts back (Lakers?). Then Huerter/DeRozan equivalent salary back in sufficient works contract wise (I still don't think they'd include Murray).

Zach is a much better fit on that team than DeRozan, Kings fans were celebrating when they got DDR, that has certainly changed now.

I’d love to see the Kings get desperate. Trade DDR out in a 3 way to LAL and take back a contract like Vincent and Vandy and Bulls get Huerter and filler with their 1st.

I think Fox Lavine Sabonis Murray Monk is much better than the DDR fit.

The Bulls would likely have to take Vincent & Hachimura back in a deal with Sac&LAL, but the Bulls may be able to get some picks out of it (not sure if they'd be 1sts, but who knows).

Fox, LaVine and Sabonis is a much better core fit wise than Fox, LaVine and Sabonis, DDR operates in the same area as Sabonis and therefore gets in the way of both Sabonis and Fox.

Wow, I wrote Sabonis alot.

[Muzbar]

Gee, that Torrey Craig fella is pretty darn good, I sure wouldn't trade him anything.

Are the other teams listening?

He sure would be great on ANY team he'd be on...

[Donkedave]

You think the rumour is true Lonzo signs with CHA in the offseason to join his brother?

Better off doing a trade now

[Muzbar]

You think the rumour is true Lonzo signs with CHA in the offseason to join his brother?

Better off doing a trade now

Why would Charlotte trade for him now when they can just get him for free in the offseason.