LaVine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls)

[Dez]

This only makes sense if they trade Vuc and another player like Coby or Lonzo.

Not a good way to start a rebuild with only 1 Pick. Could have just have that with Lavine on the roster.
I expect them to sign Giddy to a lenghty contract we won't like and have him with Pat starting.

All that to be no fun to watch, not really improving and not having enough picks for a proper rebuild.
You should be able to get a late 1st in the Vuc trade and you can get one for Lonzo/Coby while taking on somebodys bad contract.

If you can't get that there is no point in a rebuild instead of trying to get better with what you already had.

I can see them win more games than they expect it Vuc is still here and Giddy gets the ball to Huerter on a hot shoting game.

You're vastly overrating the value of the players.

[Rose2Boozer]

The Bulls won't have to give a lottery pick to the Spurs. It's a win.

[Onibuh]

This only makes sense if they trade Vuc and another player like Coby or Lonzo.

Not a good way to start a rebuild with only 1 Pick. Could have just have that with Lavine on the roster.
I expect them to sign Giddy to a lenghty contract we won't like and have him with Pat starting.

All that to be no fun to watch, not really improving and not having enough picks for a proper rebuild.
You should be able to get a late 1st in the Vuc trade and you can get one for Lonzo/Coby while taking on somebodys bad contract.

If you can't get that there is no point in a rebuild instead of trying to get better with what you already had.

I can see them win more games than they expect it Vuc is still here and Giddy gets the ball to Huerter on a hot shoting game.

You're vastly overrating the value of the players.

I don't think I do. If you can't get that as return a rebuild is pointless and will result in 5 years of pain to be where we currently are.

Vuc should be worth a late 1st. They will get that.

Lonzo/Coby aren't worth much, but taking on salary is. That has to be the whole point of that Lavine trade. Use the assests you have to get more picks for a rebuild. Being able to take on 20+ million salary is most likely the best piece of any trade for AK to make.


Getting worse without getting picks back is the worst part of a rebuild. All it does is put you back 3-4 years to get back up again to your current state while you hope the player you take gets as good as Lavine is...
If that's all they do it is no rebuild, no direction and just do something to keep your job longer because of "rebuild"

[Michael Jackson]

Luka might have shifted the narrative of getting picks (which was getting silly) in trades. That and the 2nd apron.

[League Circles]

Any chance any of the guys coming in make the rotation the rest of the season? I'm guessing no but who knows. Definitely depends on if we make more deals of course.

[sco]

Any chance any of the guys coming in make the rotation the rest of the season? I'm guessing no but who knows. Definitely depends on if we make more deals of course.

I'm sure Collins will, if we trade Vuc. Huerter, definitely, if we trade Coby. Tre may not even stick through the deadline.

[League Circles]

Any chance any of the guys coming in make the rotation the rest of the season? I'm guessing no but who knows. Definitely depends on if we make more deals of course.

I'm sure Collins will, if we trade Vuc. Huerter, definitely, if we trade Coby. Tre may not even stick through the deadline.

You're probably right, though I'd prefer to give Sanogo a longer look than Collins (behind Smith) even if Vuc is dealt, and I'd prefer seeing virtually everyone we have on the perimeter over Huerter.

[Andi Obst]

Just watched the Bulls official tribute video and it made me much sadder than I expected. What makes it worse is he didn’t even get traded to winning situation. Like damn will he ever get to play for winner while he still in top form?

Well, the actual good teams not wanting LaVine (or his contract) is why the Bulls got what they got in the deal. I'm sure good teams would want a player like LaVine, just not at that price.

[kodo]

Just watched the Bulls official tribute video and it made me much sadder than I expected. What makes it worse is he didn’t even get traded to winning situation. Like damn will he ever get to play for winner while he still in top form?

Well, the actual good teams not wanting LaVine (or his contract) is why the Bulls got what they got in the deal. I'm sure good teams would want a player like LaVine, just not at that price.

Both Denver & Golden State wanted him and I still consider them a good team. I assume AK went this route because on paper our own pick counts as a high 1st rounder (although it was never going to convey), DEN isn't worth much. And most likely the SAC offer was cheaper, Denver was offering MPJ who makes almost the same as Lavine for just as long, with more injury risk. KC always said that the financial aspect was the major reason for trading Lavine starting last summer.

[drosestruts]

Sacramento could do the funniest thing and trade Zach for the MPJ and Nnaji package we turned down.


Nuggets add Zach through trade. Sign Torrey Craig once he hits free agency.

I honestly think it makes more sense for the Kings than that package did for us.

[Indomitable]

The Bulls won't have to give a lottery pick to the Spurs. It's a win.

It is not a lost.

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[Andi Obst]

Just watched the Bulls official tribute video and it made me much sadder than I expected. What makes it worse is he didn’t even get traded to winning situation. Like damn will he ever get to play for winner while he still in top form?

Well, the actual good teams not wanting LaVine (or his contract) is why the Bulls got what they got in the deal. I'm sure good teams would want a player like LaVine, just not at that price.

Both Denver & Golden State wanted him and I still consider them a good team. I assume AK went this route because on paper our own pick counts as a high 1st rounder (although it was never going to convey), DEN isn't worth much. And most likely the SAC offer was cheaper, Denver was offering MPJ who makes almost the same as Lavine for just as long, with more injury risk. KC always said that the financial aspect was the major reason for trading Lavine starting last summer.

The Warriors are a play-in team. Solid, but not better than the Kings. The Nuggets are good, but they're a rare exception of a terribly constructed team that only works because one guy is that good. For them, MPJ + Nnaji for LaVine would've made sense because both of them are on horrible contracts. That deal would've been terrible for the Bulls.

[Andi Obst]

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I don't see how you flip Huerter without attaching an asset right now. Actually, I think playing in the Bulls' fast-paced offense where he can take a million 3s a game could end up helping his value. Unless you somehow get positive value for him, you keep him for now IMO.

Tre Jones can go for a couple of seconds. Would be gone in the summer anyway.

[Ballerkingn23]

I still think we ended up with nothing meanwhile the Spurs and the kings got everything. I guess the value of the deal for us is cap relief only. Because we should've gotten a little bit more sense we're giving up the 2nd best player in the deal and thats even debatable if Zach's not the best player in the deal. Either way this reeks of just a pure salary dump deal for us which sux. It would've been nice to get a few 2nds in the mix at least. But its clear this regime sux at trading. They overpay and undersell, which signals to me their inability to make efficient trades. And i think teams know this and don't respect us when at the negotiation table. So be that as it may If AK stays he has to build homegrown talent no more trades or FA, just develop your own squad and unless a team willing to overpay they stay, and you let them walk and bring in new guys to replace them. Bec trading AK isn't your strong suit, so don't even try. And we're not a FA destination, so just focus on player development and drafting BPA.

[Jvaughn]

Huerter's value is at an all time low. Not sure we can get more than a 2nd for him.

[chrbal]

The Bulls won't have to give a lottery pick to the Spurs. It's a win.

Pick was top 8 or top 10 protected. It’s basically not a loss, I guess. Kind of shows you more how little Zach was valued.

Bulls need to sell off some more, but not sure who has any value beyond Nikola

[kodo]

Huerter's value is at an all time low. Not sure we can get more than a 2nd for him.

He's 30% from 3 this season, and he's not improving. He shot 27% from 3 in January. Even Giddey shot better than him in January (40%) and Giddey's considered a 3P liability.

I don't think he's worth even his current salary ($17M) much less an additional 2nd round pick.

[Rose2Boozer]

The Bulls won't have to give a lottery pick to the Spurs. It's a win.

Pick was top 8 or top 10 protected. It’s basically not a loss, I guess. Kind of shows you more how little Zach was valued.

Bulls need to sell off some more, but not sure who has any value beyond Nikola

I'd take full control of our first round picks over Khris Middletown and Bobby Portis. The Bucks would've been a better situation for Zach Lavine, but it is what it is. I view the deal as a long term win for the Bulls.

[FriedRise]

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