Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[waffle]

again, it isn't fantasy basketball or play money.

Give examples of what the FO could have done and I bet that each one could be rationalized.

I don't think Pax has been lazy. I don't think Pax is stupid. I think overall his moves have made sense and have been made with the intent of building a winning team.

IF YOUR ONLY complaint is that we haven't gone into luxury? That's pretty weak

[WinCity]

Look in spite of the hurt feeling of many I think this is a vary good thing. There is a reason guys like MJ and Kobe have had similar conflicts with management during their careers. There is a natural conflict between mgt that wants to maximize profits and players/fans that want to. win titles. In the end I believe this is a good sign of a young superstar evolving, and hopefully forcing the team to invest more in winning. Rose is doing what he is supposed to do, fans should be on his side here. It isn't as if he is saying he is leaving the team to win elsewhere. He just signed long term and the message is clearly that he wants to win here in Chicago and wants JR to do much more, which we all know he can, to win here.

[Jimako10]

Reggie Rose said everything that every real Bulls fan thinks. Time to stop acting like a middle-market team when the Bulls are a powerhouse franchise and Rose is set to make Reinsdorf a few hundred million. Unfortunately, it is the wrong time and the wrong person to say it.

The crazy part is that LA and NY have TWO teams to share the market, while the bulls have a world class city all to themselves.

[organix85]

can you imagine if someone came here after the bulls lost to the heat in 2010 and said "i don't need to see any more from this team, i know for a fact that the bulls can't ever beat miami in a series"? they'd be run off as a troll

Well, I did say that actually...

[johnnyvann840]

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[DSand]

Whatever happened to freakin paying your dues. I Love D Rose but he's only played 3 seasons and 1 crappy lockout season. Winning a Championship doesn't happen overnight, just ask MJ. Sure, championships can be bought ala the Heat, the Yankees, etc... but that's the cheap p*ssy way to do it, and frankly, I wouldn't feel as gratified of a fan if we did it that way. This **** just pisses me off the more and more I think about it. The quick fix, knee-jerk, must win now attitude in sports these days is ruining the spirit of the game.

[LGhost]

God damn y'all move fast! I was trying to keep up but every time I finished 1 page another 5 would be added, lol. It's great though!

I'll add one small nothing to the table... The guy who was talking **** about Rose and trading him for Nash & Howard, smh... BUT, that team does look good on paper though

[Ctownbulls]

can you imagine if someone came here after the bulls lost to the heat in 2010 and said "i don't need to see any more from this team, i know for a fact that the bulls can't ever beat miami in a series"? they'd be run off as a troll

Well, I did say that actually...

I think everyone knew that and most said it and its true. Rose playing at 2011 level joining this team can't beat the Heat this year. Thus, Reggie Rose's frustration.

[organix85]

- He should have been putting on public pressure this summer or before the trade deadline (you know, when the Bulls could have done something) and done so in a constructive fashion. His quotes sound less intelligent and informed than my 10 year old son.

What says he didn't?

Instead of me being a jerk, I'll just point to the word in bold and suggest you answer your own question.

touche

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

This board has gone mad.

Yep.

Everybody & their mama knows that Rose needs help on the offensive end.

Boozer is a #3/#4.......Deng is a #3, but they're both being paid as #2s.

Sh*t just got real. Whether it's an amnesty or a trade, one of those players gotta go.

[Rerisen]

A big split in reading this situation I think is coming from people that legitimately thought the Bulls could win a title this year vs those who don't. That by these, unfortunate comments, Reggie Rose is somehow submarining this great chance. Come on.

I don't think the Bulls have a realistic shot at a title, I do think Rose should play regardless. I also don't think management believed we did, otherwise they would have kept the team together. I think Rose and his camp see it the same way management did, and are not happy.

All I know is next year I don't want to spend half a season on this board with people trying to convince me Jannero Pargo is actually an upgrade from Nate Robinson, like we did with our downgrades this year.

If anything preventing that happening can come out of this, all to the good.

[kuly1990]

One thing that can't be ignored is his comment about setting Rose up to fail and management has completely done that. As his brother, I understand why Reggie is so frustrated. All of the talk is about when Rose comes back, if Rose comes back, can he carry this team to a championship. The kid was exhausted the last 2 seasons by trying to do everything on his own and now he has to come back from a torn ACL and just jump into the same situation. Its tough. But Rose also should play the humble, want to be the man, can play and win with anyone card at the same time.

i love this qoute, he did everything on his own

[Sonny_D1]

Timing is a bit off, but this team isn't going anywhere with or without Rose so I'm glad he came out now and said it. Someone might listen, although I doubt it. Anyway, It's about time someone came out and publicly called out this front office. Mine as well be the face of the franchise's brother.

[Jimako10]

Losing Asik for nothing and replacing him with Nazr Mohammed is probably something that ticks Reggie (and Rose) off.

Right. The Bulls should've matched that obscene contract offer so they would be unable to sign Mirotic, a potential second option next to Rose, in the summer of 2014.

Deng expires the year Asik's contract would have gone up, so the bulls would have been forced to either trade Luol in the next 2 years (or let him walk), or trade Noah for pretty much a top 15 player (since that's what he can bring back when coupled with the CHA pick). Both routes would have been better than the route we took, since now we got to gut the team to get a star back.

[TheStig]

Losing Asik for nothing and replacing him with Nazr Mohammed is probably something that ticks Reggie (and Rose) off.

Right. The Bulls should've matched that obscene contract offer so they would be unable to sign Mirotic, a potential second option next to Rose, in the summer of 2014.

I can't see Mirotic getting more than the MLE. If we can't afford the MLE, we would be more pathetic than the bobcats.......

[hammel123]

Uhh... How about Joakim Noah and Luol Deng for Carmelo Anthony? And he was willing to come here so don't say he wasn't.

Yeah.

Melo would have no problem playing second fiddle to Rose.

He would've been perfect for the locker room, and team culture of hard work and sacrifice, seeing as he doesn't have a colossal ego, isn't a whiner, and has a Deng-like reputation for being a warrior.

HA - so instead Reinsdorf indulges his fetish for Dukies for the past ten years -- great character, they cheer for each other! Don't look now, none of them can create their own shot if their life depended on it - but fans love players who "play the right way". Let the kid who couldn't pass his SAT's carry them until his other leg falls off.

80% of all-stars who played a few days ago changed their teams in the past three years. Bulls weren't in serious discussion on any of those moves. Remember what Wade said in 2010.

[Ctownbulls]

One thing that can't be ignored is his comment about setting Rose up to fail and management has completely done that. As his brother, I understand why Reggie is so frustrated. All of the talk is about when Rose comes back, if Rose comes back, can he carry this team to a championship. The kid was exhausted the last 2 seasons by trying to do everything on his own and now he has to come back from a torn ACL and just jump into the same situation. Its tough. But Rose also should play the humble, want to be the man, can play and win with anyone card at the same time.

i love this qoute, he did everything on his own

You know what I meant. Obviously he didn't do it all on his own but when it came down to the crunch he was there by himself. Against Miami, every game with 5 minutes left it was Rose or nothing. The same thing in the Indiana series. Against Indiana he was successful. Against Lebron and Wade he wasn't and never will be. Kid needs help. Again, Reggie is an idiot for saying what he did at the time he did it but everyone needs to be honest with themselves. This team isn't winning a championship healthy D. Rose or not.

[Spimothy Leary]

OK, let's look at the team that Reggie cited, the Miami Heat. How were they created? Well, they tanked for huge capspace in 2010. Then, their leader spent literally years working over the best players in the game trying to get them to join him. Once convinced, that player took less than a max contract to make sure it all worked.

Rose? He sent Lebron a text and left Wade a voicemail. When the new Rose-rule was put in place, he gladly gobbled up a full max contract putting Chicago into lux tax land creating problems for things like sign and trades.

If Rose and his team aren't happy about looking up at the Miami Heat, they need to look in the mirror.

I don't think I need to pull out my front office bashing credentials. I'll call them out but what Reggie Rose did today was completely and utterly ridiculous. Beyond that, it lacked any amount of nuance or intelligence. If he really wanted to build a winner in Chicago:
- He should have been pushing much harder in 2010, his best chance
- He should have been putting on public pressure this summer or before the trade deadline (you know, when the Bulls could have done something) and done so in a constructive fashion. His quotes sound less intelligent and informed than my 10 year old son.

For those that are bringing up Cleveland . . . think about it. They gave a near max contract to Larry Hughes to get a second creator. They went all in for guys like Jamison to put shooters around Lebron. They got Mo Williams. They catered to every whim of Lebron and Maverick and it didn't work because they were all stupid panic moves made to placate Lebron. You guys wanting to trade the Charlotte pick for the likes of JJ Reddick and his expiring deal are pushing the same things . . . if not worse.

Man, I can't wait for tonight. This is going to be hot on TNT. Reggie Rose just nuked his brother's image. This is Dwight territory if not worse (Dwight was always PC in public). Rose would have done less damage by raping someone like Kobe did.

oh good golly miss molly !

sadly its all trru, but i'm still , still, STILL, just chillax on this, er'thing will be fine.

[BullsGate]

**SHOTS FIRED** Reggie Rose just lit a fire under Bulls management ***es! He could of said all this to Gar/Pax behind closed doors but choose to bring it in the public eye. I'm guessing Reggie finally got fed with bulls and their conservative & small market ways. It's about d*mn time too!!

[Chicago1Rose]

finally someone steps up