2018 Draft Thread #6

[cool007]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

[DuckIII]

I think completely dismissing that possibility is a better litmus test.

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So is whether a person always says the same thing regardless of changing evidence and then says it really loudly and with increased frequency when that evidence temporarily shifts in their favor.

The Dunn discussion isn't even interesting unless there is a special point guard prospect for us to draft or one becomes available in free agency. And neither look likely when analyzing the field. Barring something unexpected, he's our starting point guard next year so its still a wait and see game with what is currently mixed evidence.

There’s 2 players who could be really special and could provide in areas where Dunn is struggling right now. And that’s Doncic and Young. Doncic is particularly interesting because you can play him and Dunn together.


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As noted above, I agree about Doncic but it’s unlikely we can draft him. It’s more about Young.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

It’s called a lottery.

[DuckIII]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

For me:

Porter
Bamba
Carter

Young to me is basically “do not want” with our own pick.

[RememberLu]

Ayton is gonna be a beast in this league. I can't even believe he's in college, he looks like he's 40 years old

[TankForAyton]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

For me:

Porter
Bamba
Carter

Young to me is basically “do not want” with our own pick.

I want no part of Young either.. does anyone really think he’s going to be a better scorer than LaVine?

[Dresden]

I think with Young, a lot will depend on how he does in workouts. How well he shoots the ball, how athletic he grades out, etc. I would still put him at the very end of the top tier (or top two tiers, depending on how you break it down), although that is dependent too on how guys like Bamba and JJJ and Porter do in workouts as well.

I would think Young would not go higher than 4th, in my estimation, after Ayton, Bagley and Doncic. But he could pass Bomba, Porter and JJ, depending on workouts and what the FO thinks about his future development, his personality, his athleticism, his ability to guard, etc.

His passing is not going to go away in the nba. That's the thing I'd worry about the least. Or his ball handling. But his shooting, his ability to finish, and his ability to defend are all open to question.

[Dresden]

Ayton is gonna be a beast in this league. I can't even believe he's in college, he looks like he's 40 years old

But how good of a basketball player will he be, that's the question. There have been big guys with tremendous bodies in the nba before who never became all-stars.

[RememberLu]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

For me:

Porter
Bamba
Carter

Young to me is basically “do not want” with our own pick.

I want no part of Young either.. does anyone really think he’s going to be a better scorer than LaVine?

I don't like the way he gets his offense. It's a lot of off-the-dribble deep 3's from what I've seen. He's an amazing shooter, no doubt. I just dont like how he gets his points

[TheSuzerain]

Young and Lauri has the potential to be pornographic on the offensive end. Same goes for Doncic.

If we are trying to build an elite offense, I don't see how you pass that up.

[TankForAyton]

LaVine’s shooting is criminally underrated it seems. I just can’t envision Young being a better scorer than LaVine all things considered. And people on this board are frustrated with LaVine’s empty stats - I can’t imagine Young being any better.

[nomorezorro]

I want no part of Young either.. does anyone really think he’s going to be a better scorer than LaVine?

seems like he'll probably be a better passer, which is kind of a big deal

[RememberLu]

LaVine’s shooting is criminally underrated it seems. I just can’t envision Young being a better scorer than LaVine all things considered. And people on this board are frustrated with LaVine’s empty stats - I can’t imagine Young being any better.

He might be a better shooter, but scorer? Nah. LaVine has the height. LaVine can make a quick step from the top of the key and get all the way to the basket and finish past 3 NBA defenders. I haven't seen that from Trae.

[TankForAyton]

LaVine’s shooting is criminally underrated it seems. I just can’t envision Young being a better scorer than LaVine all things considered. And people on this board are frustrated with LaVine’s empty stats - I can’t imagine Young being any better.

He might be a better shooter, but scorer? Nah. LaVine has the height. LaVine can make a quick step from the top of the key and get all the way to the basket and finish past 3 NBA defenders. I haven't seen that from Trae.

Yeah, he’s so tiny. I can’t see him doing anything at the rim in the NBA.

[TankForAyton]

I want no part of Young either.. does anyone really think he’s going to be a better scorer than LaVine?

seems like he'll probably be a better passer, which is kind of a big deal

I won’t argue that. I just think his value is his scoring and outside of his pure shooting ability I have a hard time seeing him scoring in the paint in the NBA.

[RememberLu]

Ayton is gonna be a beast in this league. I can't even believe he's in college, he looks like he's 40 years old

But how good of a basketball player will he be, that's the question. There have been big guys with tremendous bodies in the nba before who never became all-stars.

He looks good to me, but the question with him is gonna be how far he can extend his range on offense and his defensive prowess. When I watch him though, wow, that body is ridiculous for a 19 year old. I can't even believe he's 19

[Leslie Forman]

I don't like the way he gets his offense. It's a lot of off-the-dribble deep 3's from what I've seen. He's an amazing shooter, no doubt. I just dont like how he gets his points

He gets his points like that because
1. Lon Kruger is a garbage coach
2. his team is terrible

Some proper NBA coaching that would get him more PNRs and off ball screens would do wonders.

[TheSuzerain]

Skillset wise, I think Steve Nash is a pretty good comparison for Young. He really does check all the same boxes as Nash.

If Lauri is Dirk, then let's grab Nash too. Complete the set.

[Red Larrivee]

There is now we are getting Doncic unless we get lucked into the the top 3 pick. I think the top 4 are - Doncic/Ayton/Bagley/JJJ.

IMO, Ayton and Doncic are pretty much lock to be in the top 3 pick and we are going to be picking around 6th or 7th when all said and done so we should talk more about the players that may be available in that range.

IMO, it will be Porter/Carter/Bamba and maybe Young. one of those will be available and we should discuss in which order you would pick if you had a choice.

For me:

Porter
Bamba
Carter

Young to me is basically “do not want” with our own pick.

I'm not that enthusiastic about Young's upside, but if he can leave the Oklahoma style he's played in college, he becomes more interesting to me. I don't think that style is going to work in the NBA.

[WindyCityBorn]

Skillset wise, I think Steve Nash is a pretty good comparison for Young. He really does check all the same boxes as Nash.

If Lauri is Dirk, then let's grab Nash too. Complete the set.

Downgraded from Curry to just Nash. Still not even close.