Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[JohnnyTapwater]

Sandro Mamukelashvili and his skillset is so intriguing to me. Call it the Jokic effect.

[Almost Retired]

Sandro Mamukelashvili and his skillset is so intriguing to me. Call it the Jokic effect.

Amin and Stacy say NO. They don't want to have to pronouce that name every game.

[Almost Retired]

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Not tall enough the play the #5. No offense to play the #4. Better options available. If we go big I'd take Charles Bassey from Western Ky. He's been on an upward trajectory and has the size for the 5. But I'd rather take Kispert or Dosunmu with our mid FRP and bolster our front court with FA vets that can actually play. Enough of paying spectators like Felicio and Kornet.

[othawhitemeat]

Now we’re looking at 17th pick?

What’s the catch with Jared Butler? Great defense, strong all-around, excellent 3P%. Good last name.

To me Butler reminds me a little of George Hill maybe? A better version of Derek Fisher? Nothing flashy, but good d, good shooting, smart player, etc...

Here is my list of players (in no specific order) who should go in range of picks from #13 - #20.

SF C. Kispert - Gonzaga
SF F. Wagner - Michigan

PG / SG D. Mitchell - Baylor
PG J. Butler - Baylor
PG / SG A. Dosunmu - Illinios

C A. Sengun - International
PF / C K. Jones - Texas
PF G. Brown - Texas

I like the SF/PG/SG list. The C/PF list is raw, but more on potential. Good list.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

If Franz Wagner lasts to our range, I'm in. Gotta think he goes lottery if Michigan shows out in the tourney, though.

[VolumePoster]

If Franz Wagner lasts to our range, I'm in. Gotta think he goes lottery if Michigan shows out in the tourney, though.

What is the attraction there? I only saw one game but I didn’t see a great athlete or outlier skills.

[TheSuzerain]

If Franz Wagner lasts to our range, I'm in. Gotta think he goes lottery if Michigan shows out in the tourney, though.

What is the attraction there? I only saw one game but I didn’t see a great athlete or outlier skills.

The outside shot is going to have to be his "elite" tool. A bit of a projection here, but I feel like he crushes the eye test. Very fast release for someone his size.

His IQ/vision/instincts pops at the college level as well.

[Leslie Forman]

I don't know what to make of Wagner. Maybe he's Chandler Parsons. Maybe he's Justin Jackson. It's hard to tell with guys like him who rely heavily on playing smart basketball at the college level and a good but not particularly special skillset. He's kind of like a dollar store Cade Cunningham.

But hey I suppose that's why he's not seen as a top-5 pick.

[CoreyVillains]

Not for us unfortunately but a little Cade video for your weekend viewing

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[AshyLarrysDiaper]

I don't know what to make of Wagner. Maybe he's Chandler Parsons. Maybe he's Justin Jackson. It's hard to tell with guys like him who rely heavily on playing smart basketball at the college level and a good but not particularly special skillset. He's kind of like a dollar store Cade Cunningham.

But hey I suppose that's why he's not seen as a top-5 pick.

Even if you foreclose on star upside - and I'm pretty sure I do - the length / passing / disruption / shooting potential combination is too much for him to last past 10 or so, imo.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Fun fact: Wagner (sophomore) is only a month older than Cade and more than two months *younger* than Mobley and Suggs.

This is a weirdly old class at the top.

[madvillian]

Fun fact: Wagner (sophomore) is only a month older than Cade and more than two months *younger* than Mobley and Suggs.

This is a weirdly old class at the top.

Wagner balled out today. His skillset is so intriguing. Nothing screams star but together his size, shooting ability and playmaking potential at least to me, it screams "10 year starter". Can you imagine having him and Pat at the 3-4 next year? That would be saucy.

[Jcool0]

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[Almost Retired]

Barring any trades or a second half team collapse we have to anticipate picking between 17 and 22. Our most glaring needs are a playmaker at PG, SF, and a backup center with size.

I wish we had more picks late in the 1st or earler in the 2nd Round. There some intriguing big man prospects. Kofi Cockburn of Illinois for one. He's projected anywhere from late first to late 2nd. His dominating size makes him worth the risk. You can't teach 7-0", 300 lbs with a 7-6" wingspan. Maybe he can soften up the center competition early in games to allow Carter a later advantage. Day'Ron Sharpe of NC is worth a look. He's got some size and an upside and that Montverde Academy pedigree (along with Cade Cunningham, Scottie Barnes, and Moses Moody.) I've been reading about but have never seen Ibou Badji playing for Barcelona II. Raw but an unbelievable athlete. 7-0", 7-9" Wingspan and a 9-1" standing reach. Looking at the stats the dude is a shot blocking machine. He's got no offensive game except lobs, dunk off rebounds, etc. But this kid could be a hell of a defensive and rebounding presence off the bench.

[Am2626]

Barring any trades or a second half team collapse we have to anticipate picking between 17 and 22.Our most glaring needs are a playmaker at PG, SF, and a backup center with size.

I wish we had more picks late in the 1st or earler in the 2nd Round. There some intriguing big man prospects. Kofi Cockburn of Illinois for one. He's projected anywhere from late first to late 2nd. His dominating size makes him worth the risk. You can't teach 7-0", 300 lbs with a 7-6" wingspan. Maybe he can soften up the center competition early in games to allow Carter a later advantage. Day'Ron Sharpe of NC is worth a look. He's got some size and an upside and that Montverde Academy pedigree (along with Cade Cunningham, Scottie Barnes, and Moses Moody.) I've been reading about but have never seen Ibou Badji playing for Barcelona II. Raw but an unbelievable athlete. 7-0", 7-9" Wingspan and a 9-1" standing reach. Looking at the stats the dude is a shot blocking machine. He's got no offensive game except lobs, dunk off rebounds, etc. But this kid could be a hell of a defensive and rebounding presence off the bench.

I don’t know if you have seen the Bulls upcoming schedule but I’m including it here. The schedule for the Bulls will be getting much harder with a lot of games against playoff teams. This Bulls team has done well winning games against bad teams but they don’t have a good record against good teams. Until they can prove that they can beat teams like Philly and Phoenix I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that they are in the playoffs and will be picking 17-22. It’s possible but not a guarantee.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Wagner is just a baller.

Isaiah Livers would be a good round 2 pick. Flat out sniper.

[Chi town]

Wagner is just a baller.

Isaiah Livers would be a good round 2 pick. Flat out sniper.

Wagner reminds me of Hayward. Just way longer and smoother off the dribble.

[madvillian]

Wagner is just a baller.

Isaiah Livers would be a good round 2 pick. Flat out sniper.

Livers is playing himself into the early 2nd and potentially late 1st. As you said pure sniper. 46% from deep this year. at 6-8 not many guys are going to contest his shot . He's contesting much better defensively, fighting over screens, and has an NBA ready body. Definitely concerns about his lateral quickness against threes and ability to put it on the floor but he can flat shoot. Someone will take a gamble on him.

[RSP83]

For 2022 draft, will lottery position be given to 9 and 10 seed? Or Play-In losers? If the former, this is probably the only season we'll have lottery team in the playoff (of 9-10 seeds wins the Play-In).

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

For 2022 draft, will lottery position be given to 9 and 10 seed? Or Play-In losers? If the former, this is probably the only season we'll have lottery team in the playoff (of 9-10 seeds wins the Play-In).

The play-in losers are assigned lottery odds based on regular season record.