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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?

Jalen Williams
7
11%
Tari Eason
18
29%
Nikola Jovic
4
6%
Mark Williams
18
29%
Ochai Agbaji
1
2%
TyTy Washington
0
No votes
Ousmane Dieng
0
No votes
Malaki Branham
2
3%
EJ Liddell
8
13%
Jeremy Sochan
4
6%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#521 » by Dresden » Thu May 19, 2022 3:39 am

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ATRAIN53 wrote:Holmgren is going to get abused in the NBA.

He's a stick, guys will push him around and he's gonna commit all kinds of stupid reach in fouls.
The pressure to be great with being a high pick will also crush him.

The NBA is full of MEN trying to make $$$, this guy is maybe the next Shawn Bradley IF he can stay healthy - and Bradley was a barely an average NBA player.


Comparing a freakishly mobile and skilled 7 footer to Bradley makes me believe perhaps you never saw Bradley play. Bradley was a stiff, just an extraordinarily tall one.

And what makes you think Holgrem doesn’t have the mental toughness to be an NBA player?


Today's NBA is so much less physical than it was back in Bradley's day, too. And Holmgren can shoot from distance, and handle the ball. I don't know what kind of nba career he will have, but if scouts and analysts project him that high, I kind of think they have at least an inkling that he'll be pretty good in the nba.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#522 » by Dresden » Thu May 19, 2022 3:46 am

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Wow. That almost seems like it can’t be right.


The body fat part is definitely not right. I don’t what they do to measure it at the combine, but I’m pretty sure it’s extremely close to just writing down their favorite numbers.

But yeah, the other numbers are obviously more important and they’re insane as well.

Edit: Just saw they have someone listed at 2.7% body fat at the combine. I’m sorry, NBA officials making that number up, but that person would not be with us right now.



You can 2.7% for sure but I highly doubt it anything under 3% is almost always for a body building competition and extreme diet, but some genetics allow for that. That being said my one nephew has always just naturally been around 4% @ 6'2" and couldn't put on weight if he wanted to (nor can my brother while I am 180 degrees from that and also an outlier in my family with that lol) The [point is they are usually waifish if being that low on body fat and usually low on body mass too.


What's crazy is he is theoretically bigger and longer than Gobert was. It isn't my first choice but it is surely a thought at 18. That addresses a major issue no doubt.


From what I've seen on mocks, there is a decent shot he will be there at 18. He's the guy that tops my list right now of guys I'd like to have. He would protect that paint as well perhaps anyone in the league outside of Gobert, and he's strong too.

Guys have been clamoring to trade for Ayton, but I think this guy is better than Ayton for what we need- a defender and a physical presence in the paint. We haven't had someone his size since Tyson Chandler. He may be practically a zero on offense, but the impact he would have on defense and on the glass would be amazing.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#523 » by DuckIII » Thu May 19, 2022 4:46 am

Dan Z wrote:If OKC drafts Holmgren they'd have the skinniest front court. Poku and Holmgren.


That’s where I hope he goes. I love a core of SGA, Giddey and Chet, plus all those draft picks. Could be a really unique and exciting team. Presti understands franchise talent. If Orlando passes, I’d be shocked if OKC does.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#524 » by MGB8 » Thu May 19, 2022 12:31 pm

This is an interesting draft. I don't feel like it's particularly strong at the top, like last year's or the one two years ago.

But there's decent depth, especially among bigs. The Bulls should be able to come away with a nice prospect even at 18. But, of course, accurately evaluating and ranking them, and then developing them, all play a giant part.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#525 » by sco » Thu May 19, 2022 1:20 pm

MGB8 wrote:This is an interesting draft. I don't feel like it's particularly strong at the top, like last year's or the one two years ago.

But there's decent depth, especially among bigs. The Bulls should be able to come away with a nice prospect even at 18. But, of course, accurately evaluating and ranking them, and then developing them, all play a giant part.

I agree...problem is that it likely takes 3 seasons for big prospects to be able to consistently contribute, so we'll still likely need a viable backup C (vet min), AND we'll likely be stuck with Bradley AND Marko clogging up the roster (unless the FO buy them out).
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#526 » by greenl » Thu May 19, 2022 1:53 pm

Dresden wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
ATRAIN53 wrote:Holmgren is going to get abused in the NBA.

He's a stick, guys will push him around and he's gonna commit all kinds of stupid reach in fouls.
The pressure to be great with being a high pick will also crush him.

The NBA is full of MEN trying to make $$$, this guy is maybe the next Shawn Bradley IF he can stay healthy - and Bradley was a barely an average NBA player.


Comparing a freakishly mobile and skilled 7 footer to Bradley makes me believe perhaps you never saw Bradley play. Bradley was a stiff, just an extraordinarily tall one.

And what makes you think Holgrem doesn’t have the mental toughness to be an NBA player?


Today's NBA is so much less physical than it was back in Bradley's day, too. And Holmgren can shoot from distance, and handle the ball. I don't know what kind of nba career he will have, but if scouts and analysts project him that high, I kind of think they have at least an inkling that he'll be pretty good in the nba.


This. In the early 80's- being a skinny big would have been a death sentence for Holmgren's career- but with the way NBA teams spread the floor- he has a chance to be really good. He'll be able to space the floor, attack the rim and hedge the pnr. He will get bullied- but the other stuff he brings ought to offset that. No one is pounding the paint anymore with giant centers.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#527 » by Jvaughn » Thu May 19, 2022 3:14 pm

If we miss out on Mark Williams, I'm starting to get onboard with drafting either of the Baylor freshman PFs. Huge ceilings for both and likely would be lottery picks if they stayed until next year.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#528 » by MrSparkle » Thu May 19, 2022 3:23 pm

Man, I really hope we don't have Vucevic next year. I'm not sure I can take another Orlando thrashing, as Chet, Franz and Wendell bully him to a record-high win (then they'll lose by 40 points the next night to the Hornets, or something).
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#529 » by Dan Z » Thu May 19, 2022 6:30 pm

sco wrote:
MGB8 wrote:This is an interesting draft. I don't feel like it's particularly strong at the top, like last year's or the one two years ago.

But there's decent depth, especially among bigs. The Bulls should be able to come away with a nice prospect even at 18. But, of course, accurately evaluating and ranking them, and then developing them, all play a giant part.

I agree...problem is that it likely takes 3 seasons for big prospects to be able to consistently contribute, so we'll still likely need a viable backup C (vet min), AND we'll likely be stuck with Bradley AND Marko clogging up the roster (unless the FO buy them out).


I agree that rookies take time and most of them don't contribute much their first year. My two cents is that they should take BPA and work on developing him. If he shows potential that will be enough for me (if he shows more than that...great!).

However some bigs do contribute right away. I just looked up Mitchell Robinson's rookie stats and they're not bad. Maybe the Bulls get lucky and get someone like that?
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#531 » by ChettheJet » Thu May 19, 2022 7:45 pm

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Had not even heard the name but this place

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pegs him to the Bulls at #18. Without seeing him I like the 6-10 and 230 pounds. according to the sbnation piece he didn't do well at Milwaukee but played for his dad the Horizon League so you take a step back to see how coachable he is when it's not his father telling him what to do.If nothing else he's the size I want to see them looking for in the draft, once more people get a loo at him we'll see how high his stock is. If you sit down with him and like what he says you've got to consider him
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#532 » by StunnerKO » Thu May 19, 2022 8:25 pm

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#533 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu May 19, 2022 9:28 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Man, I really hope we don't have Vucevic next year. I'm not sure I can take another Orlando thrashing, as Chet, Franz and Wendell bully him to a record-high win (then they'll lose by 40 points the next night to the Hornets, or something).



So your take way from that game is that Vuc by himself couldn't stop a team with 3-4 bigs ? and so you want to get rid of him to search for someone that can ? :o
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#534 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu May 19, 2022 9:31 pm

ChettheJet wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Had not even heard the name but this place

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2022/5/17/23060018/nba-mock-draft-2022-instant-first-round-picks-final-order


pegs him to the Bulls at #18. Without seeing him I like the 6-10 and 230 pounds. according to the sbnation piece he didn't do well at Milwaukee but played for his dad the Horizon League so you take a step back to see how coachable he is when it's not his father telling him what to do.If nothing else he's the size I want to see them looking for in the draft, once more people get a loo at him we'll see how high his stock is. If you sit down with him and like what he says you've got to consider him



Yeah the dad angle is interesting because its hard now to evaluate whether or not hes been challenged as far as coaching. I can see quite a few teams doing a deep dive on him requiring several workouts and meetings because the measurements are there
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#536 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu May 19, 2022 9:52 pm

I would probably try and buy that last pick in the 1st rd from OKC or even that 2nd rd pick they have 3 picks later
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#537 » by Dresden » Thu May 19, 2022 11:25 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:
ChettheJet wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Had not even heard the name but this place

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2022/5/17/23060018/nba-mock-draft-2022-instant-first-round-picks-final-order


pegs him to the Bulls at #18. Without seeing him I like the 6-10 and 230 pounds. according to the sbnation piece he didn't do well at Milwaukee but played for his dad the Horizon League so you take a step back to see how coachable he is when it's not his father telling him what to do.If nothing else he's the size I want to see them looking for in the draft, once more people get a loo at him we'll see how high his stock is. If you sit down with him and like what he says you've got to consider him



Yeah the dad angle is interesting because its hard now to evaluate whether or not hes been challenged as far as coaching. I can see quite a few teams doing a deep dive on him requiring several workouts and meetings because the measurements are there


He was ranked #5 prospect coming out of HS, so he at one time was projected to be quite a star.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#538 » by Repeat 3-peat » Thu May 19, 2022 11:37 pm

With the team sitting close to the luxury tax line, draft picks are the cheapest way to add talent, so I'd like to see them acquire a early 2nd to draft a wing like Max Christie, Ryan Rollins, or a center in Orlando Robinson who has question marks on defense but his offensive skill set is intriguing. Old school center but has improved his three point shot, good passer also. He's comparable to Vuc.

EJ Liddell is still my target at #18. Idk how he doesn't become a impactful player. He defends, shoots, good passer, good athlete, versatile(can play as a small ball 5).
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#539 » by TheHrvReport » Fri May 20, 2022 12:20 am

Excited to see what AK can do with the #18 pick this year :nod:
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#540 » by dawhizz » Fri May 20, 2022 1:17 am

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We have to buy a 2nd to get him, but I like Harper as well.


I like Harper but If buying a 2nd Im probably targeting David Roddy


I liked Roddy’s game in college, but I struggle to see what he does effectively in the NBA.
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