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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#541 » by RonaldArtest » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:33 am

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RonaldArtest wrote:Hey guys, Raps fan here in peace. I was wondering what’s the consensus of Otto’s future with the team. Do you think he’s a guy the team might look to move for assets to help the rebuild? I know he’s had some injury woes but he’d look great playing in Toronto. Would give the team a year or 2 to let OG come along slowly, and Porter is another defender who will be needed come playoff time.

If he’s available what do you figure the price tag is? Expiring + pick? Thanks in advance for the input, GL rest of the season.


In order for an expiring and pick trade to work, the Raptors would need to trade out Gasol, Ibaka or Lowry to match Porters salary. Unlikely that the Raptors would want to do that.

There have been trade rumblings surrounding all 3 of those guys, but yes any of them for Otto in a vacuum causes a potential issue elsewhere for the team (although many feel Boucher can provide close to what Serge has given). I proposed an idea that sent Otto/Kornet/2022 srp to Raps for Ibaka/McCaw/Johnson/2020 frp, not sure if value is close there.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#542 » by kulaz3000 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:35 am

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RonaldArtest wrote:Hey guys, Raps fan here in peace. I was wondering what’s the consensus of Otto’s future with the team. Do you think he’s a guy the team might look to move for assets to help the rebuild? I know he’s had some injury woes but he’d look great playing in Toronto. Would give the team a year or 2 to let OG come along slowly, and Porter is another defender who will be needed come playoff time.

If he’s available what do you figure the price tag is? Expiring + pick? Thanks in advance for the input, GL rest of the season.


In order for an expiring and pick trade to work, the Raptors would need to trade out Gasol, Ibaka or Lowry to match Porters salary. Unlikely that the Raptors would want to do that.

There have been trade rumblings surrounding all 3 of those guys, but yes any of them for Otto in a vacuum causes a potential issue elsewhere for the team (although many feel Boucher can provide close to what Serge has given). I proposed an idea that sent Otto/Kornet/2022 srp to Raps for Ibaka/McCaw/Johnson/2020 frp, not sure if value is close there.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
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Post#543 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:52 am

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In order for an expiring and pick trade to work, the Raptors would need to trade out Gasol, Ibaka or Lowry to match Porters salary. Unlikely that the Raptors would want to do that.

There have been trade rumblings surrounding all 3 of those guys, but yes any of them for Otto in a vacuum causes a potential issue elsewhere for the team (although many feel Boucher can provide close to what Serge has given). I proposed an idea that sent Otto/Kornet/2022 srp to Raps for Ibaka/McCaw/Johnson/2020 frp, not sure if value is close there.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat.


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Post#544 » by RonaldArtest » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:00 am

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In order for an expiring and pick trade to work, the Raptors would need to trade out Gasol, Ibaka or Lowry to match Porters salary. Unlikely that the Raptors would want to do that.

There have been trade rumblings surrounding all 3 of those guys, but yes any of them for Otto in a vacuum causes a potential issue elsewhere for the team (although many feel Boucher can provide close to what Serge has given). I proposed an idea that sent Otto/Kornet/2022 srp to Raps for Ibaka/McCaw/Johnson/2020 frp, not sure if value is close there.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

I take it most feel he wouldn’t warrant a 1st? What about without the picks, still something to consider? Otto is a curious case for me, his contract status and injury history would probably steer teams away from parting with a first for him. But a srp that would end up being 15 or so slots later in a separate draft is compensation.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#545 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:09 am

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RonaldArtest wrote:There have been trade rumblings surrounding all 3 of those guys, but yes any of them for Otto in a vacuum causes a potential issue elsewhere for the team (although many feel Boucher can provide close to what Serge has given). I proposed an idea that sent Otto/Kornet/2022 srp to Raps for Ibaka/McCaw/Johnson/2020 frp, not sure if value is close there.


I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

I take it most feel he wouldn’t warrant a 1st? What about without the picks, still something to consider? Otto is a curious case for me, his contract status and injury history would probably steer teams away from parting with a first for him. But a srp that would end up being 15 or so slots later in a separate draft is compensation.


I guess there's some value to getting out of his contract a year early, but it's not like the Bulls are a good free-agent destination. The pick makes it worth it, otherwise I suppose the Bulls may as well stand pat and hope that he's healthy next year. He was really outstanding for us last season after the trade, and we looked much better with him on the floor.
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Post#546 » by bulletbill » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:49 pm

What would a DRose trade look like? Felcio + ____ protected 1st ?
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Post#547 » by kodo » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:07 pm

bulletbill wrote:What would a DRose trade look like? Felcio + ____ protected 1st ?


That would probably work, because IMO Detroit will reset rather continue paying a fortune for Blake & Drummond as they head to their 30s.

But I don't know why we didn't just sign Rose outright, so there are obviously non-basketball reasons why this FO doesn't want him here. Most likely they think he'll outshine the youth movement.
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Post#548 » by drosereturn » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:22 pm

bulletbill wrote:What would a DRose trade look like? Felcio + ____ protected 1st ?


While I want Rose back so he can make the all-star in a Bulls uniform, sacrificing a pick for FO's own mistake is terrible.
The FO wont do it since they would be admitting their own mistakes and I dont think Rose alone makes the playoffs.

My proposal is get Rose, AD and even Kennard if possible if they are sending one of lottery pick,White,Carter with Porter.
Basically, the Bulls combine with Pistons and become one like the Timberbulls and contend which isnt the worst idea.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#549 » by bulletbill » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:26 pm

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bulletbill wrote:What would a DRose trade look like? Felcio + ____ protected 1st ?


That would probably work, because IMO Detroit will reset rather continue paying a fortune for Blake & Drummond as they head to their 30s.

But I don't know why we didn't just sign Rose outright, so there are obviously non-basketball reasons why this FO doesn't want him here. Most likely they think he'll outshine the youth movement.


Rose would definitely complement the youth movement at this stage, as he's posting his best career apg per 36. I realize those numbers would dip playing alongside Zach, but would still be a positive all around.

Rose/Lavine/Sato/Laura/WCJ Bulls can easily settle in at 7th seed.
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Post#550 » by Pax for Prez » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:58 am

The Lakers, 76ers and several other playoff-bound teams have expressed interest in trading for Pistons point guard Derrick Rose, Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports reports.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/01/lakers-sixers-interested-in-derrick-rose.html

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Post#551 » by MeloRoseNoah » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:19 am

There will be no trades for the Chicago Bulls at the trading deadline. The team is doing great and GarPax are just collecting checks now.
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Post#552 » by Dez » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:46 am

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bulletbill wrote:What would a DRose trade look like? Felcio + ____ protected 1st ?


While I want Rose back so he can make the all-star in a Bulls uniform, sacrificing a pick for FO's own mistake is terrible.
The FO wont do it since they would be admitting their own mistakes and I dont think Rose alone makes the playoffs.

My proposal is get Rose, AD and even Kennard if possible if they are sending one of lottery pick,White,Carter with Porter.
Basically, the Bulls combine with Pistons and become one like the Timberbulls and contend which isnt the worst idea.


Given that they wouldn't contend and you're giving up multiple young pieces in their first and second seasons for older players that are either too banged up they can't be relied up for 82 games (Rose) or haven't achieved anything (Drummond) it is actually the worst idea.
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Post#553 » by sco » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:39 pm

MeloRoseNoah wrote:There will be no trades for the Chicago Bulls at the trading deadline. The team is doing great and GarPax are just collecting checks now.

IMO, the only guys worth considering trading are Lavine, Young and Dunn because I think their trade value is likely as high as it will get. The key would be what players/assets we could get in return - although, I'd be fine trading Dunn for a 2nd rounder, or best case, just to have someone take Felicio's contract in that deal to free-up space. Guys like OP and Lauri have very low trade value right now, and I'd doubt anyone would give the Bulls enough to entice a deal.
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Post#554 » by LateNight » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:50 pm

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MeloRoseNoah wrote:There will be no trades for the Chicago Bulls at the trading deadline. The team is doing great and GarPax are just collecting checks now.

IMO, the only guys worth considering trading are Lavine, Young and Dunn because I think their trade value is likely as high as it will get. The key would be what players/assets we could get in return - although, I'd be fine trading Dunn for a 2nd rounder, or best case, just to have someone take Felicio's contract in that deal to free-up space. Guys like OP and Lauri have very low trade value right now, and I'd doubt anyone would give the Bulls enough to entice a deal.


I completely disagree. I get that everything has to be on the table right now, but Zach and Carter are probably the closest thing we have to keepers. Unless you have a specific target like Doncic or Kawhi, there’s no reason to trade Zach for the potential of getting a player who might, if you’re lucky, become as good as Zach.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#555 » by sco » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:55 pm

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MeloRoseNoah wrote:There will be no trades for the Chicago Bulls at the trading deadline. The team is doing great and GarPax are just collecting checks now.

IMO, the only guys worth considering trading are Lavine, Young and Dunn because I think their trade value is likely as high as it will get. The key would be what players/assets we could get in return - although, I'd be fine trading Dunn for a 2nd rounder, or best case, just to have someone take Felicio's contract in that deal to free-up space. Guys like OP and Lauri have very low trade value right now, and I'd doubt anyone would give the Bulls enough to entice a deal.


I completely disagree. I get that everything has to be on the table right now, but Zach and Carter are probably the closest thing we have to keepers. Unless you have a specific target like Doncic or Kawhi, there’s no reason to trade Zach for the potential of getting a player who might, if you’re lucky, become as good as Zach.

I'm not saying we should trade Zach, I'm just saying he is one of the few guys whose trade value is high relative to his historical performance.
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Post#556 » by Dan Z » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:19 am

If this is offered GarPax better say no.

NBA Rumors: Zach LaVine To LA Lakers For Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green & Talen Horton-Tucker, Per ‘Lake Show Life’


https://www.inquisitr.com/5847184/zach-lavine-lakers-rumors/
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Post#557 » by Dez » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:21 am

Dan Z wrote:If this is offered GarPax better say no.

NBA Rumors: Zach LaVine To LA Lakers For Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green & Talen Horton-Tucker, Per ‘Lake Show Life’


https://www.inquisitr.com/5847184/zach-lavine-lakers-rumors/

No way in hell is that true.
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Post#558 » by Dan Z » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:23 am

Dez wrote:
Dan Z wrote:If this is offered GarPax better say no.

NBA Rumors: Zach LaVine To LA Lakers For Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green & Talen Horton-Tucker, Per ‘Lake Show Life’


https://www.inquisitr.com/5847184/zach-lavine-lakers-rumors/

No way in hell is that true.


This part made me laugh:

...the hypothetical deal would allow the Bulls to acquire a young forward with huge superstar potential in Kuzma...
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Post#559 » by Rose2Boozer » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:55 am

Tough **** for Dwight Powell and the Mavericks. I wonder if the Mavs would trade expiring Courtney Lee for Thaddeus Young.
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Post#560 » by kodo » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:40 am

Dan Z wrote:If this is offered GarPax better say no.

NBA Rumors: Zach LaVine To LA Lakers For Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green & Talen Horton-Tucker, Per ‘Lake Show Life’


https://www.inquisitr.com/5847184/zach-lavine-lakers-rumors/


Not sure if this fanbase could take both Kuzma and Lauri at the same time. Kuzma has fallen off worse than Lauri.

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