Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

[Rerisen]

When it comes to Deng, I have two acceptable results:

- Bulls re-sign Deng

- Bulls trade Deng

Naturally, the specifics of either of these two alternatives matter, but I trust the FO not to do something totally stupid.

What's not acceptable to me is for the Bulls to try to re-sign Deng this summer and fail.

The dangerous option is if they misjudge the market. As with Omer. Bulls might think no other team will give Deng 14m/yr based on their dangling him as a trade chip, the little value attention he is getting. But if they are wrong and even one team says here's your money, now their intention of re-signing Deng ends with nothing.

What we can say is that unless the Bulls are willing to pay Deng whatever he demands, and with recognizing the current gap that seems to exist between the two sides suggests this is not so, trade seems the far more safe option.

[Mech Engineer]

When it comes to Deng, I have two acceptable results:

- Bulls re-sign Deng

- Bulls trade Deng

Naturally, the specifics of either of these two alternatives matter, but I trust the FO not to do something totally stupid.

What's not acceptable to me is for the Bulls to try to re-sign Deng this summer and fail.

The dangerous option is if they misjudge the market. As with Omer. Bulls might think no other team will give Deng 14m/yr based on their dangling him as a trade chip, the little value attention he is getting. But if they are wrong and even one team says here's your money, now their intention of re-signing Deng ends with nothing.

What we can say is that unless the Bulls are willing to pay Deng whatever he demands, and with recognition of the current gap that seems to exist in the two sides positions, trade seems the far more safe option.

It is a high possibility in the next FA that Deng will get paid and goes somewhere else

1. The great draft will be done and the dust will be settled for teams to figure out what they need.

2. There is a very high probability that Deng is the best FA on the market(if Melo stays in NY) and I don't think LeBron is leaving.

3. Deng himself hears a pitch from another team about contending and he has seen the story with the Bulls(bad relationship with management and Rose hurt) will make him rethink, IMO. He is in a position to want the money and play for a new contending team if he can find one. Or, he just wants to start-over somewhere new.

4. The Bulls also might be scared to over-pay Deng(13 mil for 4 years).

5. And, not to mention Deng is a pretty good fit with his basketball, leadership, playoff experience, age wise with many teams. He is almost like LeBron in FA, IMO. He can go and play almost anywhere for the next 3/4 years.

[Red Larrivee]

I still think the Lakers and Mavericks are the biggest threats. If Melo re-signs with the Knicks, Deng will be Plan B.

I can see both teams giving him $14M/yr. They have to bring something back to their fans.


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[transplant]

When it comes to Deng, I have two acceptable results:

- Bulls re-sign Deng

- Bulls trade Deng

Naturally, the specifics of either of these two alternatives matter, but I trust the FO not to do something totally stupid.

What's not acceptable to me is for the Bulls to try to re-sign Deng this summer and fail.

The dangerous option is if they misjudge the market. As with Omer.

Yeah, this was looking a lot like the Asik situation until Rose went down. Now it's completely different.

I can blame the Bulls for misjudging the market, but I don't blame them for not trading Asik. In fact, I woulda screamed bloody murder if they had traded him. There was a championship to win.

There ain't no championship to win this season. If they don't trade Deng and then misjudge the offseason market for him, they better just swallow hard and pay the man.

[micromonkey]

When it comes to Deng, I have two acceptable results:

- Bulls re-sign Deng

- Bulls trade Deng

Naturally, the specifics of either of these two alternatives matter, but I trust the FO not to do something totally stupid.

What's not acceptable to me is for the Bulls to try to re-sign Deng this summer and fail.

The dangerous option is if they misjudge the market. As with Omer. Bulls might think no other team will give Deng 14m/yr based on their dangling him as a trade chip, the little value attention he is getting. But if they are wrong and even one team says here's your money, now their intention of re-signing Deng ends with nothing.

What we can say is that unless the Bulls are willing to pay Deng whatever he demands, and with recognizing the current gap that seems to exist between the two sides suggests this is not so, trade seems the far more safe option.

I really don't know how we can even give them the excuse of misjudging the market. The Asik F-up IMO is because they either don't have analysts who give them likley scenarios--or they don't listen to them. They obviously knew at least one team was interested in Omer----The Rockets--who actually got him.

With Deng it'd be a fire-able offense not to have his valuation damn close-the analysts have to have numbers for them---scenarios with cap space/needs/inquiries from every other team--similar players value--likely evaluation dollar wise--not what they want to pay--but what the other guys will.

All that said--the bigger point--is with uncertainty you take the certain thing--a trade with a known quantity. Particularly since they don't have a good record of estimating the market.

But this is their full time job--at this point if Deng walks for nothing--I'm firing people and hiring stat/math major interns who can count and read newspapers.

[blumeany]

Trade Deng and Taj to Houston for Asik, Lin, and one of their PFs. Find takers for either Hinrich or Dunleavy to absorb most of their contracts to slip under the luxury tax for this year, thus avoiding the repeater tax. Next year will be a tax year, most likely, but we'll now have expirings in Asik and Lin. Even if we keep them for that year, we would then have massive cap space for the 2015 free agent pool. Boozer, Lin, Asik, Dunleavy are all expired. Assuming Teague is gone, Snell is still around, Jimmy signs a modest extension, and Mirotic comes over we enter the 2015 free agency period with around $35-40 million in guaranteed contracts. Plenty of space for a big free agent. If we move Noah and sign Asik for less, we'd have even more money. But, assuming we keep Noah, our starting lineup that year would possibly be: Rose, Butler, Snell?, Love, Noah with Mirotic and Nate Robinson on the bench.

[Mech Engineer]

This would have been a good situation to have Asik even with his ballooned payment, IMO. They could have packaged him with Butler to get a good piece/draft pick or traded Noah and kept Asik.
This is exactly why Gar's thoughts about flexibility sounds hollow.

Otherwise, If they were winning with a healthy Rose, be happy about payments/tax!!

[BullsFTW]

I don't need a 2014 1st for Lu. Just give me an expiring contract guy who is worse than Lu and some kind of future consideration.

There's a possibility we can land a 1st Round Pick in the 2014 Draft. There will be a lot of buyers for Luol Deng without a doubt, and it would be nice if we can find a good deal soon so we can start tanking on full mode.

[Chi town]

Trade Deng and Taj to Houston for Asik, Lin, and one of their PFs. Find takers for either Hinrich or Dunleavy to absorb most of their contracts to slip under the luxury tax for this year, thus avoiding the repeater tax. Next year will be a tax year, most likely, but we'll now have expirings in Asik and Lin. Even if we keep them for that year, we would then have massive cap space for the 2015 free agent pool. Boozer, Lin, Asik, Dunleavy are all expired. Assuming Teague is gone, Snell is still around, Jimmy signs a modest extension, and Mirotic comes over we enter the 2015 free agency period with around $35-40 million in guaranteed contracts. Plenty of space for a big free agent. If we move Noah and sign Asik for less, we'd have even more money. But, assuming we keep Noah, our starting lineup that year would possibly be: Rose, Butler, Snell?, Love, Noah with Mirotic and Nate Robinson on the bench.

I've been thinking about Lin and Asik as well. I don't think HOU can pay Parsons and keep Lin and Asik.

I would love to turn Deng, Noah/Taj and Kirk into Lin, Asik and Barnes. Lin is a great fit here long term wasRose insurance, he can get his own shot and play SG. IMO Barnes is the next George but will never get the burn or shots behind Curry Klay Iggy.

I think GSW would go for Taj MJD and a pick for Barnes and Speights.

I think HOU wants Ryan Anderson so a 3 way may work.

HOU- Kirk and Anderson
Nola- Deng
Chi- Lin and Asik

[Chi town]

People forget Asik blew up after he went to HOU and got big mins. He would have never gotten that here.

[MICHAEL_JORDAN]

20 bucks says the Bulls sign Deng to an extension before the season ends.

[DanTown8587]

20 bucks says the Bulls sign Deng to an extension before the season ends.

I'll take that bet.

[pylb]

Has this been posted before ?

Carlos Douglas Jr. ‏@TheRealC_Los
Hearing Lakers, Nets, & Kings have called #Bulls expressing interest in Luol Deng. Talks in early stages, but Chicago is getting lots calls.

[Rerisen]

Nets? They have Pierce, AK and even Iso Joe can play 3.

But when money is no object for a team, who knows.

[Rerisen]

Deng now has around .500 TS% in the last three seasons, stretches with Rose and without Rose. I have really lost hope in Deng being an efficient scorer again. Even the hyped read and react isn't saving him, in the way its looked to be helping Boozer.

You can't pay 13-14m for just defense and above average rebounding at the 3. Then medium volume on terrible efficiency, with no creating or playmaking for others. No post game at 6'9. Esp for a guy who will go into his 30s on his next deal.

You can try to argue 3pt, if he had hit 31% he'd be at .525 TS%, and 34% at .545, but it gets tiring saying "if this" and "if that" about Deng, waiting for him to score well with all these conditionals. Over the last 150 games, its not been there.

[Jimako10]

I don't need a 2014 1st for Lu. Just give me an expiring contract guy who is worse than Lu and some kind of future consideration.

There's a possibility we can land a 1st Round Pick in the 2014 Draft. There will be a lot of buyers for Luol Deng without a doubt, and it would be nice if we can find a good deal soon so we can start tanking on full mode.

If Luis Scola can bring back a 1st round pick, then I will be very disappointed if Deng doesn't at least bring that back. This draft is so deep that you will find long term starter potential players (not all-stars) in the 20s. That's all I really want for Deng.

[GoBlue72391]

Has this been posted before ?

Carlos Douglas Jr. ‏@TheRealC_Los
Hearing Lakers, Nets, & Kings have called #Bulls expressing interest in Luol Deng. Talks in early stages, but Chicago is getting lots calls.

I'm pretty sure he's a fraud.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

I don't need a 2014 1st for Lu. Just give me an expiring contract guy who is worse than Lu and some kind of future consideration.

There's a possibility we can land a 1st Round Pick in the 2014 Draft. There will be a lot of buyers for Luol Deng without a doubt, and it would be nice if we can find a good deal soon so we can start tanking on full mode.

If Luis Scola can bring back a 1st round pick, then I will be very disappointed if Deng doesn't at least bring that back. This draft is so deep that you will find long term starter potential players (not all-stars) in the 20s. That's all I really want for Deng.

You can't compare the 2. Scola wasn't UFA.

[bledredwine]

If we resign Deng for 11 mill or more, I'm out.

Seriously.

[ChiefILL53]

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/sta ... 1006370816

Cle is now shopping Dion Waiters, and have talked to us....lets make something happen I guess since a lot of yall like him?