OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF

[AirP.]

not sure if this has been discussed or not but yeah, kinda stuffs her story

Depends what she ment with the words "played in". He was traveling with the team, he was warming up with the team and he he was down on the bench. I get all of us figure "played in" means he actually played during regulation, but there are people out there that use that word way more loosely then us. Having to just be there may mean played in for her but you'd also think a lawyer might tell her that's the wrong terminology to use.

[Nikola]

I haven't really been following the thread so apologies if this has been covered, but she also said they got into the house 'because she leaves it frequently unlocked?' Huh.

I didn't read the full case, but if that's true, I called it earlier.

You know how many people forget to lock their doors when they're really drunk or drugged up? He'll, some people don't lock it regardless It's such a convenient way to say someone broke into your home if you get into an argument.

It actually says two doors were unlocked. The gate to the complex was frequently propped open by other people, and she frequently left her apartment unlocked, and Rose must have known this right.

[sammyvine]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

[Red Larrivee]

I haven't really been following the thread so apologies if this has been covered, but she also said they got into the house 'because she leaves it frequently unlocked?' Huh.

I didn't read the full case, but if that's true, I called it earlier.

You know how many people forget to lock their doors when they're really drunk or drugged up? He'll, some people don't lock it regardless It's such a convenient way to say someone broke into your home if you get into an argument.

It actually says two doors were unlocked. The gate to the complex was frequently propped open by other people, and she frequently left her apartment unlocked, and Rose must have known this right.

He could know, but she could have asked him to come over.

So her breaking and entering angle is already out.

[Red Larrivee]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

I would wager that the majority of basketball players are cheaters. My mom knows someone who works for a team and one of their main jobs is to make sure that the side chicks/groupies and wives are seated on opposite ends of the arena, and to make sure side chicks have no pre or post-game access to the locker rooms.

[sammyvine]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

I would wager that the majority of basketball players are cheaters. My mom knows someone who works for a team and one of their main jobs is to make sure that the side chicks/groupies and wives are seated on opposite ends of the arena, and to make sure side chicks have no pre or post-game access to the locker rooms.

Whlist that may be true..doesn't mean all of them are...
I don't see Steph Curry or Westbrook participating in gang related Sex etc.....
Steph Curry to me seems to have morals and be too much of a family man.

[Red Larrivee]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

I would wager that the majority of basketball players are cheaters. My mom knows someone who works for a team and one of their main jobs is to make sure that the side chicks/groupies and wives are seated on opposite ends of the arena, and to make sure side chicks have no pre or post-game access to the locker rooms.

Whlist that may be true..doesn't mean all of them are...
I don't see Steph Curry or Westbrook participating in gang related Sex etc.....
Steph Curry to me seems to have morals and be too much of a family man.

All we know is what we see on TV. People can be completely different when the cameras are off.

[Indomitable]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

I would wager that the majority of basketball players are cheaters. My mom knows someone who works for a team and one of their main jobs is to make sure that the side chicks/groupies and wives are seated on opposite ends of the arena, and to make sure side chicks have no pre or post-game access to the locker rooms.

Do you really think none of these guys never cheated on their girlfriend.

[bullslas]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

I would wager that the majority of basketball players are cheaters. My mom knows someone who works for a team and one of their main jobs is to make sure that the side chicks/groupies and wives are seated on opposite ends of the arena, and to make sure side chicks have no pre or post-game access to the locker rooms.

Whlist that may be true..doesn't mean all of them are...
I don't see Steph Curry or Westbrook participating in gang related Sex etc.....
Steph Curry to me seems to have morals and be too much of a family man.

Do you know Steph? Lot's of "family? men, cheat.

[Ctownbulls]

D. Rose speaks:

"“I am just focusing on staying healthy and getting ready for the season,” Rose said in the statement. “I am not going to comment other than to say – I know the truth, and am confident I will be proven innocent.”"

[Droseisthe1]

Just because your a millionaire doesn't make you a cheat and sleeze

You don't hear anything about Steph Curry doing things like that or Russell Westbrook

Steph Curry is grounded in Christian values and didn't grow up as "hard" as Derrick.

Rose always surrounded himself with a bunch of yes man/people who are under-qualified to offer advice.

[Droseisthe1]

Did any of you read the entire lawsuit? From a Bulls fan perspective, what irks me the most is to think that Rose was doing all this stupid **** when he decided to sit out in 2013 but was cleared to play.

Also noticed the lawsuit saying somewhere that Rose returned to his house after a game he had played in and invited Jane Doe over. But the supposed timeline of this day was in Spring 2013....and Rose DEFINITELY did not play in a game then. Something doesn't add up.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/276510161/Rose-Derrick-v-Jane-Doe-Complaint

[Droseisthe1]

not sure if this has been discussed or not but yeah, kinda stuffs her story

Depends what she ment with the words "played in". He was traveling with the team, he was warming up with the team and he he was down on the bench. I get all of us figure "played in" means he actually played during regulation, but there are people out there that use that word way more loosely then us. Having to just be there may mean played in for her but you'd also think a lawyer might tell her that's the wrong terminology to use.

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier so disregard my post from before. I'm so glad someone caught this! I was literally yelling at my screen when I saw the contradiction here.

Not sure if she just misspoke, or if this is the first chink in her credibility armor.

[DuckIII]

I'm still stuck on how 2 lawyers couldn't find any evidence yet they are still acknowledging her case.

She might have just fired the first two lawyers. Or she had two lawyers at the outset from the same firm, and fired them and hired a new one. The "third lawyer" thing doesn't mean as much as people are suggesting in this thread. It could be a sign of a weak case, don't get me wrong. But it could mean a variety things having nothing to do with that at all.

And as an aside, there is a boatload of discussion in this thread about the law that is all kinds of wrong. In fact, almost none of it is accurate. Just a word of warning to readers.

The odds are very low that two different attorneys deserved to be fired. This is usually a sign that the client is crazy and it should be a red flag. The odds are that it was her former attorneys who stopped working for her and that she did not fire them. If an attorney finds out their client is lying they have to withdraw, but they can't tell anyone about it. I would not be at all surprised if her former attorneys have information or knowledge that would exonerate Rose. I would not be at all surprised if her story changed 3 times with each new attorney. If they were on a contingency fee it could also indicate that they felt her case was unwinnable and they would not get paid.

Absolutely it could be all of those things. But the question I responded to, and a number of other posts in the thread, wonder why a court would even accept the case at all. Is it a red flag? Certainly. But its hardly dispositive of anything.

[DuckIII]

Anyone have any idea what the expected timeline is going to be?

There really isn't anyway to know yet, right?

She just filed a law suit...there is no indication yet that a judge will approve it. It could get dismissed or settled. It just a fact that Rose is being sued by the person.

Maybe I missed something or I'm just wrong.

You are correct. And I'd add something else:

I can't conceive of how this lawsuit could possibly be "dismissed" by the judge at the outset, no matter how outlandish the factual allegations appear to many people. She said it happened and pled it in adequate detail. That is, legally speaking, enough. He said she said cases are practically impossible to dispose of prior to trial in any way other than through a settlement.

There would have to be a pure legal defense, like statute of limitations, to just "get rid of the case." No expert witness opinion testimony is required in a case like this. Her word meets the minimum burden of support required to push it all they way to trial.

My guess is it settles quickly. Or it settles right before either she or Derrick Rose give a deposition. But based on the information we have, it won't be "dismissed." That's just how the legal system is.

[DuckIII]

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not sure if this has been discussed or not but yeah, kinda stuffs her story

Case dismissed

No. Her lawyer will just amend the pleading once that is pointed out and claim that he misunderstood the account his client gave him, and that the error was his.

[RyGuy24]

ESPN Legal analyst on Kap and Haugh said if they go to trial it wouldn't likely happen for two years.

[6_Rings]

oh my two years? the injury's been messing around with his head and now this? we're done.

[Flopper]

One thing that's bothered me since this story came out is that people will acknowledge that the rape allegations could be false, but will then talk about the other accusations (group sex, Skype, etc) like they're actually true. It's very possible that those were all fabricated as well to make the rape allegations seem more believable. Obviously they could also be true, but at this point there doesn't seem to be a lot of credibility on the plaintiff's side. The only things we know for certain is that these two were in a consensual relationship for some period of time and that the plaintiff now wants money.

If there had been any actual misconduct, you would think that the Rose camp would've gladly cut a check to make the story go away, but who knows with those guys. So at this point, it seems like the plaintiffs tactics are to craft an extremely one-sided narrative (i.e. the naive, demure young woman vs the sleazy, millionaire athlete) intended to generate negative publicity for Rose and hope that he eventually caves and pays them out instead of letting this drag on and further damage his reputation.

[Ctownbulls]

One thing that's bothered me since this story came out is that people will acknowledge that the rape allegations could be false, but will then talk about the other accusations (group sex, Skype, etc) like they're actually true. It's very possible that those were all fabricated as well to make the rape allegations seem more believable. Obviously they could also be true, but at this point there doesn't seem to be a lot of credibility on the plaintiff's side. The only things we know for certain is that these two were in a consensual relationship for some period of time and that the plaintiff now wants money.

If there had been any actual misconduct, you would think that the Rose camp would've gladly cut a check to make the story go away, but who knows with those guys. So at this point, it seems like the plaintiffs tactics are to craft an extremely one-sided narrative (i.e. the naive, demure young woman vs the sleazy, millionaire athlete) intended to generate negative publicity for Rose and hope that he eventually caves and pays them out instead of letting this drag on and further damage his reputation.

Its also possible that the entire story is true...