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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#581 » by anorexorcism » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:15 pm

mrlancers wrote:I don't know what the Bulls' front office is doing at this point. They haven't tipped their hands at all during this entire process. I don't know what their plan is.


The Bulls usually don't have any plan, but they knew exactly what they were doing. "We'll take a risk for LeBron, and if it doesn't work out, it's still a resounding success." Why?

They cleared out tons of long term salary, and if they got LeBron, massive profits. If they didn't get LeBron, massive savings. They have hooked thousands of new season ticket holders on what is now looking to be a false hope, and stand to have another record year again. And when the rest of the league will be panicking upon seeing the new cap under the 2012 CBA, the Bulls will be sitting pretty because they have no long term salary commitments and very reasonable contracts (mainly rookie deals).

Realistically, if the Bulls have indeed struck out on LeBron, I don't see them going for Boozer or Lee. They will add a shooter at the MLE, some second round picks and undrafted players, and go forward feeling in their minds that they won this free agency because they will be optimized for the new CBA. Completely oblivious to the basketball side of the equation if they don't get LeBron - anything short of the best is not worth improving the team; thus why we let our leading scorer go, why we passed on trades for good post players, etc.

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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#582 » by DuckIII » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:15 pm

Scott May wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:http://twitter.com/chrisbosh/status/17955164539

What's all the fuss about this morning? I woke up to a ton of emails, texts and missed calls.


Somebody kill this guy please.


I don't like to do this b/c it's bad karma, but what red-blooded American Bulls fan isn't going to be rooting for Chris Bosh to suffer a hip dislocation during the first quarter of his first game with the Heat?


What red-blooded fan of any team not located in Miami isn't going to root for that?

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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#583 » by Gray Poster » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:15 pm

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Gray Poster wrote:I disagree. the 2010 Kobe was amazing in the playoffs this year.

Not really. And Wade actually was amazing in the playoffs.

He is taller and stronger that DWade and they are about the same age. DWade has had injury problems over the past few years and Kobe has been fairly healthy.

Wade is 4 years younger. You have no idea what you're talking about.

As far as Gasol and Bosh go, I think that Gasol has stepped over the last year and pushed himself to the top of the PF food chain. Bosh had a great year(24/12) but he fails to make a difference.

"Fails to make a difference" is the stupidest argument ever. People always said such things of KG. It's called being on a bad team.


I do agree that Wade was amazing in the playoffs this year and he did pull a crap team into the 5th spot in the playoffs. I keep forgetting that Kobe is actually older that Wade by 4 years, I thought it was more like 2. But Wade was injured before the playoffs and he is 29 and only has the 1 title with Shaq.

Gasol was on Memphis before the Lakers and he was thought to be soft as well. He was the best player in Europe and he did lead Spain to multiple international titles ( like the Euro Champs ). Bosh is a lot like Gasol but it will be interesting to see what he does over the next 2-3 years.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#584 » by DuckIII » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:18 pm

taii1234 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:I don't agree with that at all.


What makes you think the Heat will be worse than the Bulls if Miami beat Chicago three times out of four last year, with Rose, Noah, and company? Adding Bosh to the Heat doesn't make Bulls the better team in no way. Hell, I'm thinking the Heat will sweep us nest year if we don't add something big.

I know it sucks that Bosh is going to Miami, but lets get the facts straight, please.


I'm operating on the assumption that the Bulls sign one of Lee or Boozer and then round out their roster with a shooter or two. Which will make the Bulls a vastly improved product to what they ran out last year.

If the Bulls whiff completely, then clearly I won't hold the same opinion.

EDIT: Moreover, the statement I disagreed with was that the Bulls would "have no realistic possibility" to beat Miami or Cleveland. I am not saying the Bulls would necessarily be "better". It is my opinion that if no superteam forms, and things play out like I expect, then the East will be:

Orlando:

(gap)

Boston/Chicago/Cleveland/Miami/Atlanta all pretty evenly matched, duking it out in the playoffs Western Conference style.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#585 » by Bulls1983 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:18 pm

This Bosh is a moron!
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#586 » by Ndgt10 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:19 pm

Who can't play in the post with his back to the basket and doesn't play any defense?

David Lee.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#587 » by mr.ankle » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:20 pm

Why do we go after them in the first place . We knew wade and Bosh were not coming here . I'm been saying since last week need to hurry up and side Lee or Boozer before New Jersey does
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#588 » by bad knees » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:20 pm

Maybe, just maybe, Bosh to Miami is not such a done deal as we thought. Maybe Broussard was fed a load of optimistic crap from Riley. Maybe Bosh really does want his S & T and Toronto, as previously reported, won't give it to him in Miami. I don't think this is over yet.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#589 » by Lanky Gunner » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:21 pm

DuckIII wrote:
taii1234 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:I don't agree with that at all.


What makes you think the Heat will be worse than the Bulls if Miami beat Chicago three times out of four last year, with Rose, Noah, and company? Adding Bosh to the Heat doesn't make Bulls the better team in no way. Hell, I'm thinking the Heat will sweep us nest year if we don't add something big.

I know it sucks that Bosh is going to Miami, but lets get the facts straight, please.


I'm operating on the assumption that the Bulls sign one of Lee or Boozer and then round out their roster with a shooter or two. Which will make the Bulls a vastly improved product to what they ran out last year.

If the Bulls whiff completely, then clearly I won't hold the same opinion.


Rose, Random Shooter, Deng, Lee, and Noah with Taj off the bench is a nice little team, but it's not winning anything except maybe a first round series (maybe), especially because our depth is going to be total crap.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#590 » by step » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:21 pm

I'm been saying since last week need to hurry up and side Lee or Boozer before New Jersey does
If worse comes to worst, sign whoever is left over. Both have their pros and cons... but still would be good in a Bulls uniform.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#591 » by edwinko » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:22 pm

Ndgt10 wrote:Who can't play in the post with his back to the basket and doesn't play any defense?

David Lee.

not like bosh and amare have any refined back to the basket moves. If you want a low post scorer. trade for AJ
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#592 » by DuckIII » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:23 pm

Rose, Random Shooter, Deng, Lee, and Noah with Taj off the bench is a nice little team, but it's not winning anything except maybe a first round series (maybe), especially because our depth is going to be total crap.


Unlike Miami, who will be able to throw waves of players at us? One of the nice things about Chicago's situation is that we've managed to retain some depth.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#593 » by Gray Poster » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:23 pm

Wiretap has LeBron in conference with Melo and STAT. Melo PUSHING KNICKS HARD??
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#594 » by hanjin1 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:23 pm

chrisbosh

I'll check the news later. Sitting down for my belgian waffles right now. less than 10 seconds ago via UberTwitter
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#595 » by fudgie » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:24 pm

If we sign a Boozer or Lee and another good player we'll probably be somewhere in the top tier of the eastern conference, not favorites, but top 3-4 with a shot at the title. That's if LeBron goes to Cleveland or New York. If he goes to Miami then we can forget about any chance at a title for the next 6-10 years.

If LeBron signs with us I think I like the core of Rose/LeBron/Noah/other FA better than the Bosh/Wade core at Miami.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#596 » by mrlancers » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:25 pm

hanjin1 wrote:chrisbosh

I'll check the news later. Sitting down for my belgian waffles right now. less than 10 seconds ago via UberTwitter


I wouldn't be surprised if he tweets about his extremely healthy bowel movement in about an hour. He would have been great for us, but I'm starting to think he possibly could be dead behind the eyes as they say.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#597 » by ric ruk » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:26 pm

Scott May wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:http://twitter.com/chrisbosh/status/17955164539

What's all the fuss about this morning? I woke up to a ton of emails, texts and missed calls.


Somebody kill this guy please.


I don't like to do this b/c it's bad karma, but what red-blooded American Bulls fan isn't going to be rooting for Chris Bosh to suffer a hip dislocation during the first quarter of his first game with the Heat?


I'll never wish injury upon another player, but I will root for them to suck every chance I get.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#598 » by lu9 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:27 pm

Gray Poster wrote:Wiretap has LeBron in conference with Melo and STAT. Melo PUSHING KNICKS HARD??


I don't buy any of that crap. MIami either.

Chicago

or

Cleveland.

That's it.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#599 » by DuckIII » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:27 pm

mrlancers wrote:
hanjin1 wrote:chrisbosh

I'll check the news later. Sitting down for my belgian waffles right now. less than 10 seconds ago via UberTwitter


I wouldn't be surprised if he tweets about his extremely healthy bowel movement in about an hour. He would have been great for us, but I'm starting to think he possibly could be dead behind the eyes as they say.


chrisbosh

Having finished my waffles, its time for me to crap. On Toronto. less than 20 seconds ago via UberDickFace
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#600 » by Lanky Gunner » Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:28 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Rose, Random Shooter, Deng, Lee, and Noah with Taj off the bench is a nice little team, but it's not winning anything except maybe a first round series (maybe), especially because our depth is going to be total crap.


Unlike Miami, who will be able to throw waves of players at us? One of the nice things about Chicago's situation is that we've managed to retain some depth.


Miami will also have problems with the depth, but the difference is they have one of the game's best players in Wade. The Bulls have no one even remotely approaching Wade. People continue to underrate the guy. He dragged a totally chit Heat squad to 47 wins last year and they added Bosh to that combo of Wade + chit. The Bulls only won 41 games and will be adding a lesser player in Lee. I fail to see how it makes any sense to believe that the Bulls will be better than the Heat next year with that proposed lineup.
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