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Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#581 » by hammel123 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 pm

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hammel123 wrote:Let's try to get Redick, another "good character" player from Duke, yes he will help "esprit de corps", Carmelo Anthony was a bad apple (no pun intended), as far as Harden we were just asleep, no one ever told us we can get him for a couple of mid lotto picks


Remember all those mid lotto picks the Bulls had this season? Oh and an elite efficiency shooting guard to replace the elite efficiency shooting guard who the Thunder were trading, whose contract expires after this season to give them salary relief while also allowing them to continue to contend this year

like, ****, i hate the bulls management as much as any sane man does, but make criticisms that make sense. there's a reason that coldfish, he of the I Don't Know If Derrick Rose Will Be Alive Next Week-level of pessimism, is criticizing what reggie said.


LOL, the pick that "clinched" Harden trade came from Toronto via Lowry, do you realize Toronto would've given up all their picks for the next ten years for Deng
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#582 » by MissileMike » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 pm

hammel123 wrote:Let's try to get Redick, another "good character" player from Duke, yes he will help "esprit de corps", Carmelo Anthony was a bad apple (no pun intended), as far as Harden we were just asleep, no one ever told us we can get him for a couple of mid lotto picks


Harden is the only plausible move, in hindsight, that could have been done. The Rockets saw an opportunity and took advantage, or "seized the moment"

Unfortunately for the Bulls, the timing was off on this. They had to decide on Asik before Harden became available. But a starting 5 of Rose, Harden, Deng, Boozer, and Asik would sure seem like a title-contending team to me.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#583 » by coldfish » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 pm

nomorezorro wrote:
like, ****, i hate the bulls management as much as any sane man does, but make criticisms that make sense. there's a reason that coldfish, he of the I Don't Know If Derrick Rose Will Be Alive Next Week-level of pessimism, is criticizing what reggie said.


That made me chuckle. Thanks zorro
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#584 » by Rerisen » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:52 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:This is Reggie Rose's (and Derrick's) disappointment that the Bulls could be stuck with Boozer for two more years and no real hope of improving the roster with that albatross of a contract. They are as sickened watching Boozer play as I am.


Heh, I don't think its that one specific thing.

However, when Rose comes back and brings his formidable offense, I think its time to start Gibson to balance the lineup.

If we can't unload Boozer, at least minimize the damage he can do.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#585 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:53 pm

Rose needs to man up and put Reggie in place and tell him to shut up or he has to man up and call out the front office himself. Stop hiding behind your big brother if that's how he does or doesn't feel.
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Post#586 » by Ctownbulls » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:53 pm

I can really remember only 2 huge press conferences in the last 10 years introducing a new Bulls player via FA or Trade. Ben Wallace and Carlos Boozer. Sorry, but that is sad. This has turned into a thread about management and ownership. Same threads that this board has seen since I joined almost 12 years ago.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#587 » by Air Poohdini » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:53 pm

We had our chance to create a super team, Reggie. Now that time is over, so now we have a traditional contending team, is your brother taking the paycut to help us get better?
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#588 » by ChicagoStrong » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:53 pm

Chicago1Rose wrote:Didn't I tell you a long time ago Bulls better figure something out? You told me "If it's that easy, then you tell me how to get another star."

.....Now even his brother is telling them to figure it out. ****'s getting real.


Well hopefully they figure something out.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#589 » by Tenchi Ryu » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:53 pm

The problem is WHEN they did this. If Reggie (or as some see indirectly Rose) wanted to make these statements, they should have been made in the summer. But the issue is that we are still in the season. Rose has to look at these people and practice with them, the same ones who he just said aren't good enough for him. Word like this travels, and could be where in a few years, stuff like this makes other players not want to play with Rose and may consider him a Diva....

Stuff like this does travel in the NBA. And us already not being a top Free Market destination doesn't make it any better. Hell, we already know the ex-bench mob probably talks sh%t about us around the lockerooms of the league, CJ Watson for example....
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#590 » by pwrshft99 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:56 pm

IMHO, a lot of posters don't get the league right now. A single star by himself isn't winning a title. We have one superstar with decent role players but we don't have any game changers. Guys that can get a decent shot on their own, draw a foul and get the line during an offensive drought.

It doesn't matter how .any decent guys you surround your star player with. The NBA especially is a game where the stars get special treatment. DRose started to finally earn that respect but he is just one guy to Miami's 3. I love Deng and Noah but not like the FO does. Something has to change. The Pistons got lucky, you can't count on that business model succeeding repeadtly in this game.

All in all the FO wants to compete for a title as long as it is profitable... That's as plain as it can be put
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#591 » by Ctownbulls » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:56 pm

Reggie obviously has inside sources. Was there a blockbuster deal in the works that didn't happen. He speaks as if he expected something to go down when the entire world knew nothing would.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#592 » by hammel123 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:56 pm

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hammel123 wrote:Let's try to get Redick, another "good character" player from Duke, yes he will help "esprit de corps", Carmelo Anthony was a bad apple (no pun intended), as far as Harden we were just asleep, no one ever told us we can get him for a couple of mid lotto picks


Harden is the only plausible move, in hindsight, that could have been done. The Rockets saw an opportunity and took advantage, or "seized the moment"

Unfortunately for the Bulls, the timing was off on this. They had to decide on Asik before Harden became available. But a starting 5 of Rose, Harden, Deng, Boozer, and Asik would sure seem like a title-contending team to me.



The Bulls timing was off? Are you serious? 80% of all star starters changed teams in the past three years. Bulls management are so afraid (for their jobs, which depend on doing just enough and no making a mistake) that they are not even looking. You can't get timing right if you're afraid
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#593 » by Shogun12 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:57 pm

This roster, with a healthy Rose, is already a legitimate contender. It isn't going to take an elite all-star to put us over the top. We just need one perimeter scoring guard that can shoot and lift a bit of the burden off Rose's shoulder. Had we traded for OJ Mayo in February of 2011, I'm convinced none of us would be having this discussion today, as the upgrade he would've presented over Bogans would've been enough to propel us to a title. Even with a Jamal Crawford in the backcourt, this team as currently constructed could go all the way.

But both of those guys, alongside a deal to bring back Ben Gordon in the summer, would've been marginally risky plays that would've cut into profit margin over the next few seasons.

The timing of this may be off, but it's not irrational to think this type of comment could spur the Bulls to do things like use their trade exception this summer to take on a long-term contract.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#594 » by BullsHOF » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:57 pm

I take a 1 hour nap, and it went from 9 pages to 40!!! :o

Calm down fellas. Rose is still going to be a Bull for years to come......
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#595 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 pm

Hindsight is 20-20 when it comes to Harden. Yeah a lot of us thought he would be good away from OKC but I don't think anyone thought he would go Supernova. If management knew Noah and whatever assets it took would be gonezo.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#596 » by ryan44 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:59 pm

pwrshft99 wrote:IMHO, a lot of posters don't get the league right now. A single star by himself isn't winning a title. We have one superstar with decent role players but we don't have any game changers. Guys that can get a decent shot on their own, draw a foul and get the line during an offensive drought.

It doesn't matter how .any decent guys you surround your star player with. The NBA especially is a game where the stars get special treatment. DRose started to finally earn that respect but he is just one guy to Miami's 3. I love Deng and Noah but not like the FO does. Something has to change. The Pistons got lucky, you can't count on that business model succeeding repeadtly in this game.

All in all the FO wants to compete for a title as long as it is profitable... That's as plain as it can be put

Disagree. Most posters understand that Rose needs a second option. They also understand that there has been no evidence that there was a deal out there that the Bulls could have made at this point in time. Reggie acts like there was a deal out there, or a number of deals that the Bulls could have pulled off, and chose not to.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#597 » by Tenchi Ryu » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:59 pm

Shogun12 wrote:This roster, with a healthy Rose, is already a legitimate contender.

This...the way this roster is setup literally is a scorer away from scaring everyone in the league. And that doesn't even mean a ALL-Star caliber scorer, just a person who can put the ball in the damn basket. Brooks, Nick Young, Crawford, names in this caliber is all that's needed.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#598 » by kingkirk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:01 am

This is the thread we need, not the thread we deserve.
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#599 » by imagge » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:03 am

Reggie is right, Drose needs help in the scoring department which is a major part of the game. I like what he said, much like Jordan complained about Brad Sllers, Colter, and Dave Corzine and ask to have better players. The FO didn't listen to him then though when he wanted players traded, stayed patient and drafted Horace Grant and traded to get Scottie in the draft and the rest is what we shall call H.O.F. history. :D
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Re: Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity 

Post#600 » by The Kane » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:03 am

Air Poohdini wrote:We had our chance to create a super team, Reggie. Now that time is over, so now we have a traditional contending team, is your brother taking the paycut to help us get better?


No we don't. We have a superstar and super role players. A traditional contending team has a legit 2nd option.
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