Matas Progress Tracker

[sco]

What are your post-all star break expectations for Matas?

Matas started 4 games right before the All-star break and average 13, 3, and 2 on 51/25/69 shooting splits. He is a brutal -35.2 per 100 possesions as a starter, not all entirely his fault, but woof.

Does Matas's low rebounding numbers as the starting 4 have you looking differently at Patrick Williams low rebounding numbers when our starting 4? Is our starting 4 doomed to have poor rebounding numbers? Is it the system?


Right now 75% of his 2pFG and 98% of his 3-point FGs are assisted. I'd like to see more self creation from Matas.

If you're going to be a star in the league you have to be able to create and make your own field goals.

If the rest of the season doesn't matter from a winning perspective, which to me is clearly signaled by trading Zach. Let''s open up the playbook for important young players and let them show what they can do - and Matas has to be considered the most important young player.

Matas' play is the very definition of the difference between potential and actual good play. He makes some great plays, but he also makes more unforced errors than experienced players.

[drosestruts]

What are your post-all star break expectations for Matas?

Matas started 4 games right before the All-star break and average 13, 3, and 2 on 51/25/69 shooting splits. He is a brutal -35.2 per 100 possesions as a starter, not all entirely his fault, but woof.

Does Matas's low rebounding numbers as the starting 4 have you looking differently at Patrick Williams low rebounding numbers when our starting 4? Is our starting 4 doomed to have poor rebounding numbers? Is it the system?


Right now 75% of his 2pFG and 98% of his 3-point FGs are assisted. I'd like to see more self creation from Matas.

If you're going to be a star in the league you have to be able to create and make your own field goals.

If the rest of the season doesn't matter from a winning perspective, which to me is clearly signaled by trading Zach. Let''s open up the playbook for important young players and let them show what they can do - and Matas has to be considered the most important young player.

Matas' play is the very definition of the difference between potential and actual good play. He makes some great plays, but he also makes more unforced errors than experienced players.

All very true.

He does have more turnovers than assists which is bad.

Also for all his highlight reel dunks he's shooting 55% from 0-3 feet which also isn't good and ranks 14th amongst his Bulls teammates

[Hangtime84]

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[kodo]

What are your post-all star break expectations for Matas?

Matas started 4 games right before the All-star break and average 13, 3, and 2 on 51/25/69 shooting splits. He is a brutal -35.2 per 100 possesions as a starter, not all entirely his fault, but woof.

Does Matas's low rebounding numbers as the starting 4 have you looking differently at Patrick Williams low rebounding numbers when our starting 4? Is our starting 4 doomed to have poor rebounding numbers? Is it the system?


Right now 75% of his 2pFG and 98% of his 3-point FGs are assisted. I'd like to see more self creation from Matas.

If you're going to be a star in the league you have to be able to create and make your own field goals.

If the rest of the season doesn't matter from a winning perspective, which to me is clearly signaled by trading Zach. Let''s open up the playbook for important young players and let them show what they can do - and Matas has to be considered the most important young player.

Matas' play is the very definition of the difference between potential and actual good play. He makes some great plays, but he also makes more unforced errors than experienced players.

All very true.

He does have more turnovers than assists which is bad.

Also for all his highlight reel dunks he's shooting 55% from 0-3 feet which also isn't good and ranks 14th amongst his Bulls teammates

Yeah he's just making stuff up out there. His shooting efficiency will go up once he develops an actual set of moves, and if it doesn't happen he passes out. Right now he's literally trying moves to see if they go in. Just happens to be in an NBA game instead of practicing in college.

In some ways his dunk contest performance was the most Matas thing ever. He went out and tried the craziest dunk you can imagine, and found out he couldn't actually make it. But he found out in the actual contest.

He's definitely not limiting himself, which is preferable to another Tony Snell.

[sco]

Matas' play is the very definition of the difference between potential and actual good play. He makes some great plays, but he also makes more unforced errors than experienced players.

All very true.

He does have more turnovers than assists which is bad.

Also for all his highlight reel dunks he's shooting 55% from 0-3 feet which also isn't good and ranks 14th amongst his Bulls teammates

Yeah he's just making stuff up out there. His shooting efficiency will go up once he develops an actual set of moves, and if it doesn't happen he passes out. Right now he's literally trying moves to see if they go in. Just happens to be in an NBA game instead of practicing in college.

In some ways his dunk contest performance was the most Matas thing ever. He went out and tried the craziest dunk you can imagine, and found out he couldn't actually make it. But he found out in the actual contest.

He's definitely not limiting himself, which is preferable to another Tony Snell.

Totally right. He's figuring out what works for him, which is what you're supposed to do as a rookie. I'm fine with his inefficiency and errors this and next season.

[dougthonus]

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Seems like an overly convoluted way to simply say over the past 7 games Matas has averaged 14 points a game on good efficiency, but despite the exaggerated framing, it is great that he's played better lately.

[RSP83]

What are your post-all star break expectations for Matas?

Matas started 4 games right before the All-star break and average 13, 3, and 2 on 51/25/69 shooting splits. He is a brutal -35.2 per 100 possesions as a starter, not all entirely his fault, but woof.

Does Matas's low rebounding numbers as the starting 4 have you looking differently at Patrick Williams low rebounding numbers when our starting 4? Is our starting 4 doomed to have poor rebounding numbers? Is it the system?


Right now 75% of his 2pFG and 98% of his 3-point FGs are assisted. I'd like to see more self creation from Matas.

If you're going to be a star in the league you have to be able to create and make your own field goals.

If the rest of the season doesn't matter from a winning perspective, which to me is clearly signaled by trading Zach. Let''s open up the playbook for important young players and let them show what they can do - and Matas has to be considered the most important young player.

I think he's going to take another step forward. The kid have shown that he got better with more confidence.

[Chi town]

Matas' play is the very definition of the difference between potential and actual good play. He makes some great plays, but he also makes more unforced errors than experienced players.

All very true.

He does have more turnovers than assists which is bad.

Also for all his highlight reel dunks he's shooting 55% from 0-3 feet which also isn't good and ranks 14th amongst his Bulls teammates

Yeah he's just making stuff up out there. His shooting efficiency will go up once he develops an actual set of moves, and if it doesn't happen he passes out. Right now he's literally trying moves to see if they go in. Just happens to be in an NBA game instead of practicing in college.

In some ways his dunk contest performance was the most Matas thing ever. He went out and tried the craziest dunk you can imagine, and found out he couldn't actually make it. But he found out in the actual contest.

He's definitely not limiting himself, which is preferable to another Tony Snell.

Uh. Watch the new Bulls tv of Buz at the AS weekend.

He practices his first dunk and gets it 3 times. Says he does it all the time.

I think the opposite. I think he does these moves everyday in practice. He’s finally getting to a show a little of what happens in practice.

[Chi town]

What are your post-all star break expectations for Matas?

Matas started 4 games right before the All-star break and average 13, 3, and 2 on 51/25/69 shooting splits. He is a brutal -35.2 per 100 possesions as a starter, not all entirely his fault, but woof.

Does Matas's low rebounding numbers as the starting 4 have you looking differently at Patrick Williams low rebounding numbers when our starting 4? Is our starting 4 doomed to have poor rebounding numbers? Is it the system?


Right now 75% of his 2pFG and 98% of his 3-point FGs are assisted. I'd like to see more self creation from Matas.

If you're going to be a star in the league you have to be able to create and make your own field goals.

If the rest of the season doesn't matter from a winning perspective, which to me is clearly signaled by trading Zach. Let''s open up the playbook for important young players and let them show what they can do - and Matas has to be considered the most important young player.

I think he's going to take another step forward. The kid have shown that he got better with more confidence.

Vuc and Giddey take most of the boards.

Pat sucks at rebounding but the system does have something to do about it tho too

[Chi town]

27 games left for Buz to cook.

He needs on ball reps and as the screener in PNR.

We will suck and lose all but prob 4-5 games. Let’s see what Buz can do. I’m glad to hear Bilkybwants to try Buz and Pat together.

[Rose2Boozer]

I would like to see Matas Buzelis tighten up his ball handling and start at the three. Hey, DribbleTooMuch we got another Bulls prospect for you. A starting lineup of Ball, White, Matas, Smith, and Queen would be my vision.

[DASMACKDOWN]

I also think Matas has get used to playing with the starters. For that matter they with him.

Matas was great with Smith, Lonzo and Pat off the bench. It was cooking actually.

The unit with Matas and the starters hasn't been great so far. But that is more indicative of the opponents and guys like Vooch and Coby being awful over that time. Matas has been fine.

But at this point its about just grinding this out until they find who works best with him. Which is why Billy is still interested in the pairings of PWill and Matas.

[bledredwine]

He’s 15 and 7 on .440 from the field with .360 3 pt clip per 36 minutes. He projects to be a solid starter eventually, like Coby. But it all depends on his improvement.

[Jcool0]

He’s 15 and 7 on .440 from the field with .360 3 pt clip per 36 minutes. He projects to be a solid starter eventually, like Coby. But it all depends on his improvement.

When has Coby been a solid starter?

[dougthonus]

He’s 15 and 7 on .440 from the field with .360 3 pt clip per 36 minutes. He projects to be a solid starter eventually, like Coby. But it all depends on his improvement.

When has Coby been a solid starter?

I mean last year he started 78 games and averaged 19.1/5.1/3.3
This year he's started 48 games and averaged 18.5/4.5/3.3

His efficiency numbers are decent, not great, not bad. He's a threat as a three point shooter off the dribble or in catch and shoot, and has a quick release so you have to keep a body on him. His defense is below average, but not Josh Giddey bad. He can play on or off ball and is solid as a combo guard and can score from multiple places on the floor and fit in well with most backcourt players because of his versatility.

I'm not sure what your bar for "solid starter" is, but I don't see how Coby White doesn't qualify as a "solid starter" which I would view typically as the 4th best guy in your starting lineup and ~90th-120th best player in the league type of guy. That seems like a more or less fair spot to lump in Coby IMO.

[Jcool0]

He’s 15 and 7 on .440 from the field with .360 3 pt clip per 36 minutes. He projects to be a solid starter eventually, like Coby. But it all depends on his improvement.

When has Coby been a solid starter?

I mean last year he started 78 games and averaged 19.1/5.1/3.3
This year he's started 48 games and averaged 18.5/4.5/3.3

His efficiency numbers are decent, not great, not bad. He's a threat as a three point shooter off the dribble or in catch and shoot, and has a quick release so you have to keep a body on him. His defense is below average, but not Josh Giddey bad. He can play on or off ball and is solid as a combo guard and can score from multiple places on the floor and fit in well with most backcourt players because of his versatility.

I'm not sure what your bar for "solid starter" is, but I don't see how Coby White doesn't qualify as a "solid starter" which I would view typically as the 4th best guy in your starting lineup and ~90th-120th best player in the league type of guy. That seems like a more or less fair spot to lump in Coby IMO.

If Coby is your 4th starter you aren't going anywhere. He is terrible on defense. Terrible trying to be a PG. Never makes the correct play.

[dougthonus]

When has Coby been a solid starter?

I mean last year he started 78 games and averaged 19.1/5.1/3.3
This year he's started 48 games and averaged 18.5/4.5/3.3

His efficiency numbers are decent, not great, not bad. He's a threat as a three point shooter off the dribble or in catch and shoot, and has a quick release so you have to keep a body on him. His defense is below average, but not Josh Giddey bad. He can play on or off ball and is solid as a combo guard and can score from multiple places on the floor and fit in well with most backcourt players because of his versatility.

I'm not sure what your bar for "solid starter" is, but I don't see how Coby White doesn't qualify as a "solid starter" which I would view typically as the 4th best guy in your starting lineup and ~90th-120th best player in the league type of guy. That seems like a more or less fair spot to lump in Coby IMO.

If Coby is your 4th starter you aren't going anywhere. He is terrible on defense. Terrible trying to be a PG. Never makes the correct play.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends who the top 3 starters are, but the median 4th starter in the NBA is the 105th best player in the league, I'd guess Coby is inside the top 105 best players.

[sco]

I mean last year he started 78 games and averaged 19.1/5.1/3.3
This year he's started 48 games and averaged 18.5/4.5/3.3

His efficiency numbers are decent, not great, not bad. He's a threat as a three point shooter off the dribble or in catch and shoot, and has a quick release so you have to keep a body on him. His defense is below average, but not Josh Giddey bad. He can play on or off ball and is solid as a combo guard and can score from multiple places on the floor and fit in well with most backcourt players because of his versatility.

I'm not sure what your bar for "solid starter" is, but I don't see how Coby White doesn't qualify as a "solid starter" which I would view typically as the 4th best guy in your starting lineup and ~90th-120th best player in the league type of guy. That seems like a more or less fair spot to lump in Coby IMO.

If Coby is your 4th starter you aren't going anywhere. He is terrible on defense. Terrible trying to be a PG. Never makes the correct play.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends who the top 3 starters are, but the median 4th starter in the NBA is the 105th best player in the league, I'd guess Coby is inside the top 105 best players.

That's a nifty little stat. How did you find that?

[dougthonus]

If Coby is your 4th starter you aren't going anywhere. He is terrible on defense. Terrible trying to be a PG. Never makes the correct play.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends who the top 3 starters are, but the median 4th starter in the NBA is the 105th best player in the league, I'd guess Coby is inside the top 105 best players.

That's a nifty little stat. How did you find that?

Median just means in the middle, the top 90 players would be the top 3 starters across 30 teams if talent is distributed properly. The middle fourth starter is the guy in the middle of 91-120 or 105.5 technically.

[sco]

Maybe, maybe not. Depends who the top 3 starters are, but the median 4th starter in the NBA is the 105th best player in the league, I'd guess Coby is inside the top 105 best players.

That's a nifty little stat. How did you find that?

Median just means in the middle, the top 90 players would be the top 3 starters across 30 teams if talent is distributed properly. The middle fourth starter is the guy in the middle of 91-120 or 105.5 technically.

oh. it was the missing .5 that threw me.