Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

[burlydee]

Would you guys Do Perkins and Lamb for Deng?

No because I don't think Lamb is that good. I don't think OKC would necessarily do it either. They aren't the type to take on salary and they would have no chance of keeping Deng past this year.

[Ralphb07]

This thread is going to be flooded with unkowledgeable posters believeing this is good for the bulls basketball wise. But in reality if deng gets traded we can kiss contending for a while goodbye. We can barely function well without deng for 2 minutes off the floor. I guess if we do trade deng we better get a first round draft pick and hope that we hit gold and get the number one pick and get parker. But I doubt parker is leaving duke this year because his best friend Jahil okaford just commited to play for duke next season along with the top point guard in the class. I know washington,cleveland, and olando would proabaly do a trade.

Is that necessary?

The new CBA has affected a lot, it made OKC deal Harden. Deng is going because some team will pay him 14 mil and with the new CBA paying 14 and 12 mil on your 2nd and 3rd best player when neither are true go to scorers really straps your team.

If Deng gets traded which now he should because Rose is out and Deng will not be back, surely will hurt us this year. Next year well we don't really know until Nikola and what else we do is done.

[burlydee]

If we're trading Deng, the guy I would go after is Dion Waiters. I'm not a huge fan, but he is a scorer and you could plug him right away and I think get results (at least on the offensive end). We also know Iman Shumpert may be on the block and the Knicks are prone to making rash decisions. You would need a 3 team trade to get Shumpert though, the salaries are too different.

The other team I'd look as is Washington, but they've traded their #1 pick. Would they send Porter for a chance to resign Deng?

Mostly I'd be looking to get a young player or draft pick for Deng. Afflalo is intriguing too b/c he is under contract at a number the Bulls may like.

[MvPderozan]

Would you guys Do Perkins and Lamb for Deng?

More like Perkins and Lamb for Noah. Why in the world would OKC want another SF when they have Kevin Durant?

It's called playing small ball to smoke the heat

[Ralphb07]

You all better believe that any deng trade that goes down is only for FINANCIAL reasons. And will most likely pisss thibs off, and will make us worst for a few years. Boozer is proabaly going to get amestied. So next year we are going to be without our 2 leading scorers(not counting rose) and 2 out of our 3 best rebounders, and arguably our best defender. Mirotic is likely comming over next year but do you realy expect him to be ready to contribute right away on the same level as boozer as a rookie? I Love butler but can you expect him to be the best wing player on a championship team? Everybody wants a young team but young teams barely win and when these young players finaly develop you have to worry about keeping these players. Deng leaving also forces butler to have us by the balls when his contract come up. And what if butler goes down who is going to be our primary defender on the carmellos,durants,lebrons,georges,joe johsons,josh smiths of the world? If we try to rebuild now then rose is going to be 28-29 when we have a team as good as this one when everything clicks. If Rose could get healty sometime before the playoffs, and we pick up one more scorer(ben gordon off waivers hopefully), and we get one more big(kurt thomas or a big that is waived) then we have a good shot this year. Rose-butler-Deng-Boozer-Noah, Hinrich-Gordon-Dunleavy-Taj-Thomas/Nazr is worthy to good enough to win if everything clicks.

Nikola is going to be able to contribute next year whether it's on Boozer level or not that is to be determine when the games start going next year. You know what makes me excited about it though, it's that Nikola can score many different ways and efficiently and he is only going to progress as the season goes.

We have to see what else happens. Getting the Charlotte pick this season will help because it adds a rotation player from day one to our team. We'll also have 8 mil after Nikola to use. We'll possibly have a pick or two from a Lu trade that could be used to land a player via trade since we have the funds.

We just have to wait and see how it unfolds next summer before we truly now if it's going to hurt and how bad if it does.

[DJhitek]

Would you guys Do Perkins and Lamb for Deng?

Keep Lamb and I'll take both your first rounders and I'd do that deal.

[unknownnewbie]

Would you guys Do Perkins and Lamb for Deng?

No because I don't think Lamb is that good. I don't think OKC would necessarily do it either. They aren't the type to take on salary and they would have no chance of keeping Deng past this year.

That trade would be heavily in favor of the Thunder. Lamb is a 3rd string guy for the Thunder and Perkins really isn't very good. I don't know why he starts for OKC. In Chicago he's be backing up Noah while getting $8 million this year and $9 million next season. So Chicago should send their 2nd best player to OKC for two bench players? The Thunder could move Ibaka to C and Durant to PF and put Lu at SF.

Yeah, not liking this trade...

[Ralphb07]

IMO, if the Bulls do decide to trade Deng, one of the first priorities is going to be to get under the tax barrier.

You can forget about getting significant talent back. IMO, you are looking for salary relief and a lottery protected first.

Getting a lottery protected pick and salary relief for a rental player is good value. Obviously we could have netted more previous season but right now I want a pick.

The Charlotte pick looks like it can happen and in the 11-14 range. Our pick probably is around 20 and getting a lottery protected 1st and you could do something moving up a bit in this draft or walk out with 3 nice players on the cheap going forward bench wise with 8 mil to spend after Nikola in the summer.

[unknownnewbie]

What would you all think of this trade.

Bulls trade: Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer, Rights to Nikola Mirotic the least favorable of their 2 first round picks
Magic trade: Hedo Turkoglu (expiring 12 million contract that can be waived for 6 million), Glen Davis, Jameer Nelson (expiring can be waived for 2 million at end of season), Andrew Nicholson and the rights to Fran Vasquez.

It gives Tibs a starting vet point guard for the rest of the season and frees up the Bulls cap room to pursue Lebron at the end of the season.

PG Nelson/James/Teague (Rose in 2014)
SG Hinrich/Dunleavy
SF Buter/Snell
PF Gibson/A.Nicholson
C Noah/Glen Davis

We are not in the Lebron sweepstakes so no.

Exactly who on this team would score any points? Neither Taj Gibson nor Jimmy Butler should be a team's 1st offensive option.

Also, Hinrich is probably a better PG than Nelson.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Deng for Villanueva and Caldwell-Pope works on the trade machine.

[unknownnewbie]

My question is whether the Bulls would trade Deng for actual value (player(s) that can contribute at a more or less similiar level but may be slightly cheaper) and will be part of the team for the next few seasons, or whether they'd be more likely to dump him for crappy players on expiring contracts so they'll have more cap room to go after free agents?

[MrSparkle]

Deng to SAC

2014 1st (top-5 prot.), Salmons, Fredette to CHI

Don't see anybody dealing this year's 1st w/o some protection on Wiggins/Parker/Randle.

I'd like to get another big guy though, so Noah's minutes are down.

[BR0D1E86]

What about Deng for Jimmer and filler?

If you intend to tank that hard you should have a Noah follow up move within an hour.

[BR0D1E86]

What would you all think of this trade.

Bulls trade: Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer, Rights to Nikola Mirotic the least favorable of their 2 first round picks
Magic trade: Hedo Turkoglu (expiring 12 million contract that can be waived for 6 million), Glen Davis, Jameer Nelson (expiring can be waived for 2 million at end of season), Andrew Nicholson and the rights to Fran Vasquez.

It gives Tibs a starting vet point guard for the rest of the season and frees up the Bulls cap room to pursue Lebron at the end of the season.

PG Nelson/James/Teague (Rose in 2014)
SG Hinrich/Dunleavy
SF Buter/Snell
PF Gibson/A.Nicholson
C Noah/Glen Davis

I think it's monstrously bad for the Bulls. The reasoning just gets me angry.

[Red Larrivee]

Utah Receives
Luol Deng

Chicago Receives
Andris BIedrins
Alec Burks
Rights to Golden State's 2014 1st Round Pick (Unprotected)

Saves the Bulls $3.073M.

The Bulls aren't getting a better player back and no team is going to trade us their high draft pick for a rental of Deng. If the Bulls get an expiring, a cheap deal, and a pick, that's fine.

In this deal, Utah trades $11M+ in useless salary and a pick for Deng, who will prevent them from playing Richard Jefferson in the lineup and doesn't kill their payroll.

[The Force.]

Deng to SAC

2014 1st (top-5 prot.), Salmons, Fredette to CHI

Don't see anybody dealing this year's 1st w/o some protection on Wiggins/Parker/Randle.

I'd like to get another big guy though, so Noah's minutes are down.

This is the type of deal I see happening. Either this or something involving Shabazz/derrick Williams from the twolves.

If they did the former I would be extremely happy.

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[Slackstring701]

No team is giving up anywhere near a lottery pick in the deepest draft of all time for Luol Deng.

[Red Larrivee]

No team is giving up anywhere near a lottery pick in the deepest draft of all time for Luol Deng.

Bingo. More likely than not, the Bulls are going to get swindled on a Deng deal in terms of immediate impact. Teams aren't in any rush to give up great value for rentals unless they're superstar talents.

[GoBlue72391]

If we're going to trade Deng then I hope we go for a full blow up, because this Bulls team without Rose and Deng is bad enough not to contend but too good to get into the lottery. I think we'd be looking at a 6-8 seeding, which is the last place we should want to be right now.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

No team is giving up anywhere near a lottery pick in the deepest draft of all time for Luol Deng.

Bingo. More likely than not, the Bulls are going to get swindled on a Deng deal in terms of immediate impact. Teams aren't in any rush to give up great value for rentals unless they're superstar talents.

The only team willing and able to trade a lottery pick for a Deng rental was Washington, and they already traded their 2014 1st rounder to PHX.

In fact, forget the lottery. I don't see a team trading any 1st rounder for 4 months of Deng.