Houston Coming after Dunleavy, Bulls unwilling to move him

6_Rings · Post #61 » by **6_Rings** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:58 pm

Evil_Headband wrote:
6_Rings wrote:
Evil_Headband wrote:
I'm sure Reinsdorf is completely comfortable paying Lin $15 million next year.

Only 8m counts cap-wise. Mdj earns at least 10m. Anybody correct me if am wrong

Seriously?

actually am not sure. How much is Dun getting per season? I think it's lesser sorry for that.

anyhoo he's the only player I want from the Rockets roster with the exception of Parsons.

Mightymosdef · Post #62 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:58 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
Yes a stat that many professionals look at is stupid..right.

My bad he's currently #2 he was #1. Funny..MDJ isn't even top 25 lol.

Many professionals look at raw fg% too - should we debate the merit of that stat?

Marco wins FG% too..4-8?

Evil_Headband · Post #63 » by **Evil_Headband** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:11 pm

6_Rings wrote:
Evil_Headband wrote:
6_Rings wrote:
Only 8m counts cap-wise. Mdj earns at least 10m. Anybody correct me if am wrong

Seriously?

actually am not sure. How much is Dun getting per season? I think it's lesser sorry for that.

anyhoo he's the only player I want from the Rockets roster with the exception of Parsons.

Only $3.3 million.

jc23 · Post #64 » by **jc23** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:11 pm

PMONSTER wrote:Keeping Dunleavy means something but I don't know quite what it is.

we are not cheap. If we were, we would gladly give up MDJ for the garbage offer houston is probably offering.

Chi town · Post #65 » by **Chi town** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:23 pm

I think MDJ will get a late 1st in the end with an expiring that can play ala Garcia.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #66 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:24 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
Yes a stat that many professionals look at is stupid..right.

My bad he's currently #2 he was #1. Funny..MDJ isn't even top 25 lol.

Many professionals look at raw fg% too - should we debate the merit of that stat?

Marco wins FG% too..4-8?

You sort of missed the point.

dice · Post #67 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:29 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:PER is a stupid stat. but dunleavy's career PER is significantly higher

and marco is not the best 3 pt shooter

Yes a stat that many professionals look at is stupid..right.

can't believe i'm the one to break it to you at this late stage, but professionals often don't know what they're doing. and some continue to get hired. like isiah thomas

My bad he's currently #2 he was #1. Funny..MDJ isn't even top 25 lol.

newsflash: the better 3 point shooter is often not the better player

additionally, the player with the highest percentage is not necessarily the most effective ("better") shooter. korver, calderon, and curry have all been better 3 point shooters this season

Post #68 » by **HomoSapien** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:40 pm

A reluctance to trade Dunleavy would support the rumor that Boozer is unlikely to be amnestied.

samwana · Post #69 » by **samwana** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:43 pm

HomoSapien wrote:A reluctance to trade Dunleavy would support the rumor that Boozer is unlikely to be amnestied.

why?

mostek · Post #70 » by **mostek** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:47 pm

The reason posters assume they are low-ball offers, is because there seems to be some general consensus that Bulls players are bad, and other team's players are good. The reason the Bulls are hanging on to Dunleavy is that he is a good player, on a good contract, $3.18M this year, and $3.33M next, which is the same reason teams are lining up to try to pry him loose.

The Bulls are currently a game out of 3rd, in the East, and are not going to make a move that makes them worse, including saving money, as long as they can stay below the tax line this season. Both Dunleavy, and Hinrich are very important to the success of the team, and will only be moved if the trade improves the team short-term, and does not impact salary, in a negative way. That is why, even though it seems like posters want to make a deal, just to make a deal, it is tough to fit within those parameters, which is why Pax came out and told us not to expect a deal.

bledredwine · Post #71 » by **bledredwine** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:50 pm

jc23 wrote:
PMONSTER wrote:Keeping Dunleavy means something but I don't know quite what it is.

we are not cheap. If we were, we would gladly give up MDJ for the garbage offer houston is probably offering.

? But dunleavy is on a cheap deal and that's im guessing part of the reason we took him.

Evil_Headband · Post #72 » by **Evil_Headband** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:50 pm

HomoSapien wrote:A reluctance to trade Dunleavy would support the rumor that Boozer is unlikely to be amnestied.

I see no connection. 1) We don't know what is being offered 2) The Bulls can still trade Dunleavy in the off-season 3) The Bulls could decide to keep Dunleavy regardless if Boozer is amnestied or not

Red Larrivee · Post #73 » by **Red Larrivee** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:51 pm

HomoSapien wrote:A reluctance to trade Dunleavy would support the rumor that Boozer is unlikely to be amnestied.

Well, the Bulls do have to put a team on the floor this season. Moving Dunleavy for a non-rotation player leaves Snell as your starting forward for 48 minutes on Planet Thibs. So, something worthwhile would have to come back. If we're not getting a rotation player, a draft pick and vice versa.

I guess keeping Dunleavy doesn't hurt either. We are one of the worst 3-point shooting teams, so he would help next year if we add shooters.

ChicagoStrong · Post #74 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:54 pm

6_Rings wrote:
Evil_Headband wrote:
6_Rings wrote:Kirk + Mdj for Jeremy Lin. do it Garpax.

I'm sure Reinsdorf is completely comfortable paying Lin $15 million next year.

Only 8m counts cap-wise. Mdj earns at least 10m. Anybody correct me if am wrong

Um, no.

Axl Rose · Post #75 » by **Axl Rose** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:56 pm

why would we want lin?

waste all our cap this offseason for a back up PG? why?

Doom · Post #76 » by **Doom** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:04 pm

why the **** would we want garcia for dunleavy. give us terrence jones or get the **** out greedy trash GM

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #77 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:06 pm

HomoSapien wrote:A reluctance to trade Dunleavy would support the rumor that Boozer is unlikely to be amnestied.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Rose2Boozer · Post #78 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:08 pm

Probably something pretty underwhelming like Garcia and Brewer.

Mightymosdef · Post #79 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:08 pm

dice wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:PER is a stupid stat. but dunleavy's career PER is significantly higher

and marco is not the best 3 pt shooter

Yes a stat that many professionals look at is stupid..right.

can't believe i'm the one to break it to you at this late stage, but professionals often don't know what they're doing. and some continue to get hired. like isiah thomas

My bad he's currently #2 he was #1. Funny..MDJ isn't even top 25 lol.

newsflash: the better 3 point shooter is often not the better player

additionally, the player with the highest percentage is not necessarily the most effective ("better") shooter. korver, calderon, and curry have all been better 3 point shooters this season

Hate to break it to u but he has a higher PER which involves more than shooting so aside from D(which both suck at) Marco is the better player. Cool curry and them are better but Marco is still better than MDJ haha.

jc23 · Post #80 » by **jc23** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:09 pm

bledredwine wrote:
jc23 wrote:
PMONSTER wrote:Keeping Dunleavy means something but I don't know quite what it is.

we are not cheap. If we were, we would gladly give up MDJ for the garbage offer houston is probably offering.

? But dunleavy is on a cheap deal and that's im guessing part of the reason we took him.

Well we had our pick of dunleavy, nate or marco for the mmle last summer. Bulls thought he was the best fit next to derrick.

My point is it would be easy to unload mdj and guarantee Chicago doesnt pay the tax. They still might, but it seems only if it makes basketball sense.