2017 Summer Bulls - Merged

Gant · Post #61 » by **Gant** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:00 pm

RememberLu wrote:Summer League means nothing. Didn't the Bulls win the Summer League championship last year?

lol how'd all that work out...

Summer league means everything. The regular NBA season means nothing. 8-)

MC3 · Post #62 » by **MC3** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:00 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Didn't know where to put this, but Zipser apparently won't play for the German national team in the Eurobasket this summer. Wants to focus on the Bulls.

Now that's the Euro player worth keeping and investing in it.

JimmyJammer · Post #63 » by **JimmyJammer** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:02 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Didn't know where to put this, but Zipser apparently won't play for the German national team in the Eurobasket this summer. Wants to focus on the Bulls.

It seems like the Bulls organization is taking a different approach with respect to player's development. They are running things like an academy now, and they promise to be patient and disciplined in that approach. They must have told Zipser it is best that he sticks around to work on his game. This is an important Summer for Zipser, because he'll have the opportunity to cement his place as solid nba player.

WindyCityBorn · Post #64 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Excited to see Dunn and Laurie play. Hopefully we finally get to see Hoiball this upcoming season now that ball stoppers are gone or will be soon.

JimmyJammer · Post #65 » by **JimmyJammer** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:11 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:Excited to see Dunn and Laurie play. Hopefully we finally get to see Hoiball this upcoming season now that ball stoppers are gone or will be soon.

Once we get Wade out, it will be fun watching a group of young players running up and down the court, giving maximum efforts, regardless of the outcome. Valentine can now be himself without looking over his shoulders and Dunn will have the freedom to be what he was coming out of college, which Thibs would not allow him to do.

JimmyJammer · Post #66 » by **JimmyJammer** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Gant wrote:
RememberLu wrote:Summer League means nothing. Didn't the Bulls win the Summer League championship last year?

lol how'd all that work out...

Summer league means everything. The regular NBA season means nothing.

Yes, we are in tanking mode already. I am already programmed and conditioned for the outcome. Nobody will outtank us this coming season.

MrFortune3 · Post #67 » by **MrFortune3** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:01 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
rowseyna wrote:Payne
Dunn/Blakeney
Valentine
Zipser/Walker
Markkanen/Brimah

Should be a pretty strong SL team again. Hoping we see a step up from some of these guys. Looks like we have some solid signings as well - wouldn't be surprised to see someone get a contract offer.

Blakeney is only 20 and he's got an athletic base to work with, so if he shows anything I would like to give him a shot. We need super young guys.

Does anyone know what the situation is with the undrafted guys like Dozier, Motley, Oliver etc.? Did they sign with the teams or is it just SL deals that other teams can poach if they want?

Motley I think signed a two way deal with the Mavs. So he gets paid both like a minor leaguer in baseball would.

Not sure how a summer league player is gonna make the roster if you believe Paxson on roster spots.
Can't fit a talented big but can fit a SL guy?

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #68 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:04 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:
rowseyna wrote:Payne
Dunn/Blakeney
Valentine
Zipser/Walker
Markkanen/Brimah

Should be a pretty strong SL team again. Hoping we see a step up from some of these guys. Looks like we have some solid signings as well - wouldn't be surprised to see someone get a contract offer.

Blakeney is only 20 and he's got an athletic base to work with, so if he shows anything I would like to give him a shot. We need super young guys.

Does anyone know what the situation is with the undrafted guys like Dozier, Motley, Oliver etc.? Did they sign with the teams or is it just SL deals that other teams can poach if they want?

Motley I think signed a two way deal with the Mavs. So he gets paid both like a minor leaguer in baseball would.

Not sure how a summer league player is gonna make the roster if you believe Paxson on roster spots.
Can't fit a talented big but can fit a SL guy?

IIRC

Dozier signed with the Lakers
Oliver signed with the Rockets

Hoopshype rumors had a bunch of tweets yesterday I think.

Chi town · Post #69 » by **Chi town** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:07 pm

MC3 wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:Didn't know where to put this, but Zipser apparently won't play for the German national team in the Eurobasket this summer. Wants to focus on the Bulls.

Now that's the Euro player worth keeping and investing in it.

Zip knows he could be the starting SF.

JimmyJammer · Post #70 » by **JimmyJammer** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:22 pm

I kind of like the fact that Zach won't be back until January, because it gives a great opportunity to evaluate Valentine fairly. Now, if we could only start Wade on the injured list, it would be priceless. I know it is going to be ugly on many nights, but I am willing to live with the results. I'd let Felicio walk if he thinks he is going to get more than the MLE.

samwana · Post #71 » by **samwana** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:50 pm

MC3 wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:Didn't know where to put this, but Zipser apparently won't play for the German national team in the Eurobasket this summer. Wants to focus on the Bulls.

Now that's the Euro player worth keeping and investing in it.

That's what I always wanted to hear from Niko, his loyalty is elsewhere...

MC3 · Post #72 » by **MC3** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:53 pm

samwana wrote:That's what I always wanted to hear from Niko, his loyalty is elsewhere...

If Niko stayed with Bulls to work on his game after his strong rookie year. Instead going at Eurobasket, he maybe could have ended different player. But he did not. And he didnt even stay again next year. It was crucial last chance for him to develop and add to his game, he was 23 when he come.

And Zipser is now 23.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #73 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:32 pm

Edited.

kobumba · Post #74 » by **kobumba** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:46 pm

Ze Germans actually had massive hassle with Tibor Pleiss who skipped the national team last summer in favor of trying out to resign with a NBA team after being sacked by Utah.
The move was regarded as favoring money to national pride. That kind of thing.
Wonder if that also happens to Zipser.
Summer camp has shown us that our younglings can squat 80 lbs etc via instagram.
Fred is probably celebrating.

I wonder if the honestly let Zipser start at SF without FA.Cause Zipser only played half a season starting in February. That is often ignored.

Andi Obst · Post #75 » by **Andi Obst** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:07 pm

kobumba wrote:Ze Germans actually had massive hassle with Tibor Pleiss who skipped the national team last summer in favor of trying out to resign with a NBA team after being sacked by Utah.
The move was regarded as favoring money to national pride. That kind of thing.
Wonder if that also happens to Zipser.

It's already happening. It's basically the reason for the reports about Zipser skipping the tournament. Most people in Germany don't care about basketball, the Eurobasket and they probably don't know who Paul Zipser is. But now the media has given the people a reason to complain and that's what they love to do. It's ridiculous.

kobumba · Post #76 » by **kobumba** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:39 pm

there is some truth to it,tho.
cause it defintely shows what you favor most in your career

MrFortune3 · Post #77 » by **MrFortune3** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:16 pm

kobumba wrote:there is some truth to it,tho.
cause it defintely shows what you favor most in your career

Not really, if you are a developing player you have a short window to seize an opportunity. Playing for your home country is nice but this is still a job, if he goes and plays for Germany and plays great but then misses the opportunity to gain a bigger role then it could be a moment where 3-4 years from now he regrets it.

The better he develops the more valuable he is to the German team anyways.

wonderboy2 · Post #78 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:32 pm

I'm going to the LS Vegas summer league this year. I went last year and it was amazing! I encourage everybody to come and check it out you won't be disappointed.Its non-stop basketball all day. I sat right behind Gar Forman last year and heard him talking about signing Zisper. I actually opened up a tread last summer about it lol. My whole point is that it's a lot of fun. Word of advice, don't say anything bad about the lakers up there. There fans are crazy and out-number everybody lol.

wonderboy2 · Post #79 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:38 pm

Do we know who's playing for the Bulls this summer league?My guess should be Dunn, Payne, Valentine, Zisper, Markennan, Brimah,Walker........ I hope Payne plays but I'm not sure if anybody confirmed it. I think the bulls have the 5th best SL roster besides LA, Boston, Philly, Kings,

sh0ck · Post #80 » by **sh0ck** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:42 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:I'm going to the LS Vegas summer league this year. I went last year and it was amazing! I encourage everybody to come and check it out you won't be disappointed.Its non-stop basketball all day. I sat right behind Gar Forman last year and heard him talking about signing Zisper. I actually opened up a tread last summer about it lol. My whole point is that it's a lot of fun. Word of advice, don't say anything bad about the lakers up there. There fans are crazy and out-number everybody lol.

That's pretty awesome, I'm going this year and I'm hoping to get an upclose and personal experience.

I plan on buying tickets there (to avoid the processing fees), is that a good idea? Or should I buy them online?