NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

[bennjuiced34]

Here's the thing on Knox...it depended which game you watched of him. Which I know that sounds scary (why didn't he show it more consistently?). Asked myself the same question (I'm a big Knox guy).

But when he did turn it on, he was easily the best player on the floor (vs West Virginia in a huge game on the road). I'm not sure why he didn't take over more (system, immaturity, passivity, combo of everything).

I still believe he could be a stud at the next level. All about how he asserts himself on a game to game basis. Personally, I think some of it was youth and not being used properly. Hopefully he matures and becomes more aggressive.

[bennjuiced34]

Knox is a projection. Some of you may feel comfortable doing that. Others won't. I get it. Something about his tools/game I really like assuming he matures. He's one of the youngest players in the draft I believe.

[Archx]

Hmm I remember when Lauri Markkanen was tearing it up at Eurobasket.
19.5 ppg on 54% overall FG, 47.8% from 3, 89.7% FT.

Everyone said "it's just Euro, it doesn't mean he'll be a star in the League."

Doncic performed well, but overall less impressively than Lauri,
14.3 ppg on 40.6% FG, 31.1% 3P, 84.8% FT.

I think there's plenty to poke holes at for Doncic as a top 2 pick. Including a less than average points per possession in isolation for an on-ball creator.

But can't see him dropping past 4...I think Memphis is crazy if they pass on him there.

Yeah but Lauri was 20 and a full NBA season behind him, Luka was 18 at that time. Also Dragic was our main guy not Luka, while Lauri was nr1 option for Finland

[dumbell78]

I don't know but I get a Jeff Green vibe from Knox. Seems like he will sleepwalk through a 10 year NBA career and have everyone ask why.

[johnnyvann840]

If the Bulls actually wasted an entire season and then the resulting 7th pick in this draft for Michael Porter, I am going to be sick to my stomach. Probably recurring nausea every time I have to watch him play too and then every time I have to see reports about him missing practice and games because of pain and spasms. Then, I'll get even more sick reading people defending the pick while all this is going on and saying we are like the 76ers and it's actually "good that he is missing most of his rookie year". Cause we all know it's coming.... right?

Atleast he has upside. What would you rather have wasted a year for Mikal Bridges lol

Yes. Bridges has more upside than Porter. Either Bridges.

[bennjuiced34]

I don't know but I get a Jeff Green vibe from Knox. Seems like he will sleepwalk through a 10 year NBA career and have everyone ask why.

Completely fair. I get those who aren't high on him. He's a projection and a projection that involves him becoming more consistent/assertive/aggressive.

[kulaz3000]

I don't know but I get a Jeff Green vibe from Knox. Seems like he will sleepwalk through a 10 year NBA career and have everyone ask why.

Charlie Villanueva for me. But yes, tall small forwards, who aren't physical enough to play power forward for long periods of time.

[fleet]

The two guys I like least in this draft seem to be the two guys the Bulls are eyeing the most.

Porter and Knox. I'll take Knox over Porter but just not crazy about him. I don't understand how a player like that can be so high regarded. A player like Porter is thought of as some superstar upside prospect. But, then I watch them play and I don't know what I'm not seeing. I think Josh Okogie is a better prospect than both. He's proven it against good competition. He has all the measureables, he has all the athleticism, can run, has the highest vertical and the highest no step vert. He stepped up against some of the best teams in college like Duke and other highly ranked teams. He looks like a killer when you watch him play. Engaged, diving for the ball, etc. He comes to the combines and outshines most of the top prospects and probably ALL of the guards. But, still nobody is talking about him. I mean, instead of watching a guy workout with dummies or play in HS or in an empty gym, watch an actual game against worthy peers...

or watch him doing things in games. The types of passes he makes. His instincts, hustle. He can shoot. Finish. He's a relentless defender. Blocks shots. How is he not higher? This is still my guy in this draft. He's gonna surprise everybody in the NBA....

Yeah, not sure why the talk of him died out. I can only second everything you wrote.
I liked him before the Combine, but the way he showed off there made me think he is going late lottery. Now that there is talk of some other guys as most popular in that range (Huerter etc.), and with Hutchinson apparently having a promise from Brooklyn, I really hope Okogie falls to us. I'd take him (or at least what he can become) over LaVine every day.

Source? I missed this.

[tunit213]

If the Bulls actually wasted an entire season and then the resulting 7th pick in this draft for Michael Porter, I am going to be sick to my stomach. Probably recurring nausea every time I have to watch him play too and then every time I have to see reports about him missing practice and games because of pain and spasms. Then, I'll get even more sick reading people defending the pick while all this is going on and saying we are like the 76ers and it's actually "good that he is missing most of his rookie year". Cause we all know it's coming.... right?

Atleast he has upside. What would you rather have wasted a year for Mikal Bridges lol

Yes. Bridges has more upside than Porter. Either Bridges.

Mikal does not have more upside than MPJ. Is this what the MPJ hate has come to lol.

[DuckIII]

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Man, I'm not saying he's going to bust or that I want him to bust but IF he DOES, some of these analysts and Doncic-cult members are going to look SOOO stupid for being so condescending/elitist with their opinion on him. It's like a crime to disagree that Doncic won't be a bonafide superstar in the NBA

I haven’t read 100 pages of posts from 6 or so threads, but that describes zero Bulls posters that I’ve seen.

[Benedict Miller]

If the Bulls actually wasted an entire season and then the resulting 7th pick in this draft for Michael Porter, I am going to be sick to my stomach. Probably recurring nausea every time I have to watch him play too and then every time I have to see reports about him missing practice and games because of pain and spasms. Then, I'll get even more sick reading people defending the pick while all this is going on and saying we are like the 76ers and it's actually "good that he is missing most of his rookie year". Cause we all know it's coming.... right?

Atleast he has upside. What would you rather have wasted a year for Mikal Bridges lol

Yes. Bridges has more upside than Porter. Either Bridges.

How?

[kulaz3000]

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Man, I'm not saying he's going to bust or that I want him to bust but IF he DOES, some of these analysts and Doncic-cult members are going to look SOOO stupid for being so condescending/elitist with their opinion on him. It's like a crime to disagree that Doncic won't be a bonafide superstar in the NBA

I haven’t read 100 pages of posts from 6 or so threads, but that describes zero Bulls posters that I’ve seen.

Yeah, same. I'm somewhere in the middle with Doncic where I've defended him, but also argued for him, but I don't think the people who are fans of Doncic are condescending or elitist in any way shape or form. If anything, it's the fans who aren't fans of Doncic, who feel the need to call the Doncic fans, Pro-Doncic or Doncic-cult members.

[taj2133]

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[BigUps]

Let's all agree on one thing......

No matter how you feel about who we pick Thursday, let's support and welcome him into the family with open arms and minds. Give the kid a fair shot and don't bury him before he's had a chance to show what he can do.

Many of us will be disappointed, but don't let your own scouting via YouTube get in the way of supporting our new man for a season.

As Bulls fans, we're fickle (Chicago fans in general) so I feel the need to remind folks about this.

Thursday can't come soon enough.

[realEAST]

The two guys I like least in this draft seem to be the two guys the Bulls are eyeing the most.

Porter and Knox. I'll take Knox over Porter but just not crazy about him. I don't understand how a player like that can be so high regarded. A player like Porter is thought of as some superstar upside prospect. But, then I watch them play and I don't know what I'm not seeing. I think Josh Okogie is a better prospect than both. He's proven it against good competition. He has all the measureables, he has all the athleticism, can run, has the highest vertical and the highest no step vert. He stepped up against some of the best teams in college like Duke and other highly ranked teams. He looks like a killer when you watch him play. Engaged, diving for the ball, etc. He comes to the combines and outshines most of the top prospects and probably ALL of the guards. But, still nobody is talking about him. I mean, instead of watching a guy workout with dummies or play in HS or in an empty gym, watch an actual game against worthy peers...

or watch him doing things in games. The types of passes he makes. His instincts, hustle. He can shoot. Finish. He's a relentless defender. Blocks shots. How is he not higher? This is still my guy in this draft. He's gonna surprise everybody in the NBA....

Yeah, not sure why the talk of him died out. I can only second everything you wrote.
I liked him before the Combine, but the way he showed off there made me think he is going late lottery. Now that there is talk of some other guys as most popular in that range (Huerter etc.), and with Hutchinson apparently having a promise from Brooklyn, I really hope Okogie falls to us. I'd take him (or at least what he can become) over LaVine every day.

Source? I missed this.

It was link from someone's Twitter somewhere on this forum (NBA Draft section I think), but I can't really find it now. Don't think it was some 100% credible source.
But things like that coming out now I tend to hold veritable, in that part of the Draft and after his comments not to trust everything one reads on line, after being linked to Bulls. He obviously got a promise since he withdrew after day one of Combine.

[jump]

What is it with posters who presume any criticism of a prospect they like is " MPJ hate" or the "Doncic cult"? Can't we just disagree and move on without adding all this Fox News style animosity? Get over yourselves, people. This is sports not politics. Sports is an escape from politics, get it?

[kulaz3000]

Let's all agree on one thing......

No matter how you feel about who we pick Thursday, let's support and welcome him into the family with open arms and minds. Give the kid a fair shot and don't bury him before he's had a chance to show what he can do.

Many of us will be disappointed, but don't let your own scouting via YouTube get in the way of supporting our new man for a season.

As Bulls fans, we're fickle (Chicago fans in general) so I feel the need to remind folks about this.

Thursday can't come soon enough.

To be honest, the Bulls fans generally speaking are very welcoming with rookies and for the most part we root for him and support them once they put on a Bulls jersey.

Hell, Teague was backed by a good portion of the Bulls board to exercise patience, and we got excited when he did show little glimmers of hope.

[kulaz3000]

What is it with posters who presume any criticism of a prospect they like is " MPJ hate" or the "Doncic cult"? Can't we just disagree and move on without adding all this Fox News style animosity? Get over yourselves, people. This is sports not politics. Sports is an escape from politics, get it?

Those terminologies I don't encourage, and is something that's being monitored. The grouping of fans, and calling them a 'Pro X-player' is one thing, but calling them a cult is taking it a step too far. If it continues to happen, I strongly recommend posters to flag such comments so they can be dealt with.

[kyrv]

Let's all agree on one thing......

No matter how you feel about who we pick Thursday, let's support and welcome him into the family with open arms and minds. Give the kid a fair shot and don't bury him before he's had a chance to show what he can do.

Many of us will be disappointed, but don't let your own scouting via YouTube get in the way of supporting our new man for a season.

As Bulls fans, we're fickle (Chicago fans in general) so I feel the need to remind folks about this.

Thursday can't come soon enough.

Many of us will do that. Many won't. And they'll be waiting for the pick to fail.

Time to bring up one of my favorite draft night posts, repeated often "Noah will never play center in the NBA". Not to mention the trashing Taj took.

[Scalaboner]

Let's all agree on one thing......

No matter how you feel about who we pick Thursday, let's support and welcome him into the family with open arms and minds. Give the kid a fair shot and don't bury him before he's had a chance to show what he can do.

Many of us will be disappointed, but don't let your own scouting via YouTube get in the way of supporting our new man for a season.

As Bulls fans, we're fickle (Chicago fans in general) so I feel the need to remind folks about this.

Thursday can't come soon enough.

Many of us will do that. Many won't. And they'll be waiting for the pick to fail.

Time to bring up one of my favorite draft night posts, repeated often "Noah will never play center in the NBA". Not to mention the trashing Taj took.

Yeah as a fan of a team, I don’t understand why anyone will ever talk bad about a pick? You may not like the pick but every fan should want that pick to succeed. We have had 20 years now without a championship so whoever we pick I want to help bring us to the promise land! Whether it be Doncic, Porter, Bridges, Knox, etc. I’m going to hope the player develops and reaches their ceiling or pulls a Butler and goes beyond their ceiling.