NBA Draft 2018 7.0: Lucky #7 and 22 - This is It!

Darius Miles Davis · Post #61 » by **Darius Miles Davis** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:41 am

I still think we have the best trade package to offer the Griz if we want to. Who else has the means to offer a pick not far off in the draft and to take all or most of Parsons' contract with little to no salary offset?

KevinPandawong · Post #62 » by **KevinPandawong** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:42 am

Jvaughn wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
TheHrvReport wrote:N-O ! Every GM should hang up the phone on Ainge if he is calling on draft night. He is looking to fleece anyone and you'd be handing him a dynasty

Boston can take Bamba at 4 and give the Bulls' Parsons + King's '19 pick for #22, that's about all I'd do to help.

Absolutely not. We get fleeced in that deal.

I feel like you're overrating Sacramento's potential to not be the worst team in the league. Cap relief and the 22nd pick for a guaranteed top 4 pick in 2019, I'm all aboard.

KevinPandawong · Post #63 » by **KevinPandawong** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:45 am

Darius Miles Davis wrote:
kodo wrote:The fact that KC wrote an entire article about how we want Bamba, makes me think he's not at all who we want. KC only knows what the FO tells him, and the FO would never advertise their true intentions.

You know, although Mo Bamba was the central figure in KC's article, Bagley was mentioned twice:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-nba-draft-mo-bamba-20180620-story.html

"Last year’s franchise-changing trade of Jimmy Butler has been followed by the Bulls closely monitoring the draft-day status of big men Marvin Bagley III and Mo Bamba, league sources said."

...

"Though Bagley long has been an organizational favorite for his fit alongside Markkanen, Bamba could be more obtainable. Whether the Bulls will sacrifice a future asset for the potential trade-up needed to land the Texas big man or roll the dice he falls to them is the question."

With rumors that Sacramento still debating whether to take Bagley or Doncic, it's possible that 1-2-3 goes 1) Ayton 2) Doncic 3) Jackson, in which case Bagley and Bamba would be available at #4. Given the choice, who would the Bulls take? It's not clear to me at this point.

I think I take Bagley over Bamba but only slightly. It's hard to pass on Bamba's potential, but I haven't seen a motor like Bagley's since my all-time favorite Bull in Noah. There aren't that many players that have that Butler and Westbrook drive but Bagley is definitely one of them.

Leslie Forman · Post #64 » by **Leslie Forman** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:51 am

KevinPandawong wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
Boston can take Bamba at 4 and give the Bulls' Parsons + King's '19 pick for #22, that's about all I'd do to help.

Absolutely not. We get fleeced in that deal.

I feel like you're overrating Sacramento's potential to not be the worst team in the league. Cap relief and the 22nd pick for a guaranteed top 4 pick in 2019, I'm all aboard.

That's why the Sacramento pick is really valuable but also really risky though.

They're so obviously going to be awful that there's a really good chance they end up with #1, which just stays with Philly.

Jesus christ HInkie was an amazing trader.

NesimLE · Post #65 » by **NesimLE** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 am

KevinPandawong wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
Boston can take Bamba at 4 and give the Bulls' Parsons + King's '19 pick for #22, that's about all I'd do to help.

Absolutely not. We get fleeced in that deal.

I feel like you're overrating Sacramento's potential to not be the worst team in the league. Cap relief and the 22nd pick for a guaranteed top 4 pick in 2019, I'm all aboard.

That cap relief completely kills our short term flexibility though...unlikely we'd be able to buy into this draft, or make any deals during free agency or the during season to take on a bad contract for future assets, and in exchange, all we get is a shot at a decent pick next year (and we lose our second pick this year.) Lotto reform is gonna change the odds on that Sacramento pick, and they weren't even the worst team this year (they tied with us lol.)

Not to mention we help Boston get another piece in their burgeoning dynasty...which is the last thing we should be doing when that's actually a team we'll need to compete with on our current timeline.

Post #66 » by **kulaz3000** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:52 am

KevinPandawong wrote:I think I take Bagley over Bamba but only slightly. It's hard to pass on Bamba's potential, but I haven't seen a motor like Bagley's since my all-time favorite Bull in Noah. There aren't that many players that have that Butler and Westbrook drive but Bagley is definitely one of them.

While I agree with you, the energy is currently only limited to the one side of the ball. It's a knock, but not really a knock because you don't find many young players who are committed to playing defense.

Like you though, I most likely select Bagley over Bamba myself.

KevinPandawong · Post #67 » by **KevinPandawong** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:10 am

NesimLE wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
Absolutely not. We get fleeced in that deal.

I feel like you're overrating Sacramento's potential to not be the worst team in the league. Cap relief and the 22nd pick for a guaranteed top 4 pick in 2019, I'm all aboard.

That cap relief completely kills our short term flexibility though...unlikely we'd be able to buy into this draft, or make any deals during free agency or the during season to take on a bad contract for future assets, and in exchange, all we get is a shot at a decent pick next year (and we lose our second pick this year.) Lotto reform is gonna change the odds on that Sacramento pick, and they weren't even the worst team this year (they tied with us lol.)

Not to mention we help Boston get another piece in their burgeoning dynasty...which is the last thing we should be doing when that's actually a team we'll need to compete with on our current timeline.

What future asset would you want more than Sac's 1st rounder? I also don't really see anyone I'd sign next off-season that fits within the Bulls' time frame. Memphis, Phoenix, and Dallas are all looking to add free agents to start competing next year with Charlotte as the only team I see significantly dropping in the standings next year, that Sac pick is going to be a game changer for Philly or Boston next year.

Dominator83 · Post #68 » by **Dominator83** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:10 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:After over 6000 posts, FINALLY LETS GO GET IT! Welcome to you future Bulls stars!

CHIKANDA FOREVER!!!!!

Lets continue it here!

I think your math is a little fuzzy. It's over 12000 sir

probably way more considering the last thread went almost 30 additional pages

GrowingHorns · Post #69 » by **GrowingHorns** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:18 am

i was shooting two hours of basketball on Wednesday and been up til this point reading all draft related stuff. i really hope i get NOW some sleep to avoid getting problems. I'm all for trading up. luka is my dream, but bamba would be great. not the least because i already been singing "Mr. Bambastic" a way too much...

samwana · Post #70 » by **samwana** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:19 am

Jvaughn wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
TheHrvReport wrote:N-O ! Every GM should hang up the phone on Ainge if he is calling on draft night. He is looking to fleece anyone and you'd be handing him a dynasty

Boston can take Bamba at 4 and give the Bulls' Parsons + King's '19 pick for #22, that's about all I'd do to help.

Absolutely not. We get fleeced in that deal.

Actually I would think about that, but I would want to change the #22 to Felicio and would talk long about including the Memphis pick too, but Memphis probably want their pick back, when they trade with the Celtics.

Getting the sacto pick without giving up anything but cap space, that's a good deal imo

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KevinPandawong · Post #71 » by **KevinPandawong** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:26 am

Hopefully Portis is the first to be moved rather than #22, not looking forward to his next contract one bit. He had a full season of all-star level productivity but the punch and years left on his rookie deal really hurt his value. I wouldn't be mad at a late 1st rounder, that'd be a gold mine to me. Keita Bates-Diop would look so good as Lauri's back-up and even as his front-court partner in a small-ball lineup. My sleeper in the 2nd round is definitely Trent though, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he winds up a better shooter than Bridges and Huerter especially off the dribble.

BeKuK · Post #72 » by **BeKuK** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:29 am

I hope we're gonne trade up.....I really hope! But at the same time I'm so pissed that we messed up the season by winning too many games. It could have been way easier right now if we had handled the "tank-modus" better.

Post #73 » by **kulaz3000** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:31 am

BeKuK wrote:I hope we're gonne trade up.....I really hope! But at the same time I'm so pissed that we messed up the season by winning too many games. It could have been way easier right now if we had handled the "tank-modus" better.

Would you have liked the no.2 pick? Because we tied with the Kings in losses, and now they are picking 2.

There is a reason why it's called the lottery, you just never know how the balls will bounce.

NecessaryEvil · Post #74 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:33 am

I wonder why we've never heard anything about Paxson & co. trying to move up for Luka Doncic?

Axolotl · Post #75 » by **Axolotl** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:58 am

I'm all set to stop talking about who the Bulls should pick and why, and ready to start talking about who they should have picked and why. Not forgetting why the picks they made are bad :wink:

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Seriously though, it's kinda hard to wrap my head around the fact that we will have new players in a few hours! There are 8 players I feel comfortable with at #7, and a whole lot more for #22.

I'd be willing to eat contracts and give players to move up on both picks, the cap space and the players are there to do that, and getting to choose is always better than picking what's left.

Benedict Miller · Post #76 » by **Benedict Miller** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:03 am

Trade up. Let's get Doncic and go from there.

gmoney2 · Post #77 » by **gmoney2** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:04 am

Wendell carter’s workout w Sam Mitchell on NBA TV was a little underwhelming. He didn’t look like a quick or explosive jumper. His shot mechanics did look good. I really don’t see that much difference between his game and Portis. He might be a better shot blocker, but I think Portis plays with more intensity.

BullsInBuffalo · Post #78 » by **BullsInBuffalo** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:10 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:I wonder why we've never heard anything about Paxson & co. trying to move up for Luka Doncic?

You could be on to something here...

BullsInBuffalo · Post #79 » by **BullsInBuffalo** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:12 am

gmoney2 wrote:Wendell carter’s workout w Sam Mitchell on NBA TV was a little underwhelming. He didn’t look like a quick or explosive jumper. His shot mechanics did look good. I really don’t see that much difference between his game and Portis. He might be a better shot blocker, but I think Portis plays with more intensity.

Agree 100%

Hes a fine player, but I don't see all star level player like JJJ/Bagley/Ayton/Bamba could all get to.

Just seems like he's a really solid player. Which is fine, but IMO after the season we had you need to shoot for a better than solid player. Even if he has flaws in his game like a Bamba or back issues like MPJ.

Jeffster81 · Post #80 » by **Jeffster81** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:38 am

Leslie Forman wrote:
bad knees wrote:So MEM reached out to Bamba directly, and asked him for a visit and his medical info, and he just told them no?

That is an unusually mature young man.

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So instead of burning bridges with agencies, he's just directly burning bridges with actual NBA franchises.

Yeah that sounds brilliant.

He's not trying to burn bridges with NBA franchises, he's trying to burn bridges with Memphis. Big difference.

Would you want to play for a franchise that gave Mike Conley, Jr 150+million?

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