OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond

[jacoby1us]

Season is over. This was a very winnable game for the Bears. Extremely embarrassing loss to a mediocre Chargers team. Time to move on from Trubisky and Nagy as the play caller.

[HoopsterJones]

Season is over. This is not a playoff team.

[Hold That]

Mitch played horribly had a decent drive but even then they were passed he should be hitting. He didn’t get bailed out the spotlight needs to continue to shine on his lack of production

[dice]

The howard trade was a stomach punch.
If you were told that following the trade the bears would be the worst offense in the league, does it sound like a good move?
No absolutely not.

This offense isnt playoff caliber, anybody with eyes can see.

David Montgomery is better than Jordan Howard.

They just needed to give him the ball.

there have only been 2 games that montgomery hasn't gotten carries. today was the 2nd game out of 5 that he's gotten opportunities that he's run the ball effectively. whether that's mostly the O-line's problem or whatever. he sure looked good today though

[dice]

What a disgrace of a kick. Mitch wasn't good but he was good enough, especially at the end. SMH.

would have been down the middle if it didn't hook like a mofo. not sure how much control the kicker has on that. should have made it, certainly

had the bears run another running play rather than sit on the ball at the end there, maybe that kick goes through. prevent offense

[RememberLu]

Are we officially in "blow it up" territory? If you don't have a great QB in this league, you don't have anything. Should the Bears try to trade some of their major pieces away to recoup some draft picks to try to find that QB? Move Mack and Allen Robinson to a contender, what's the point of hanging on to them

[dice]

Is it just me or was punting in that situation dumb as hell? I never get that. Smh

on 4th and 16 w/ trubisky behind center?

your chances are better to force a 3 and out than convert that 4th down. and you don't lose much time because you have all your timeouts

[GetBuLLish]

One day in the next century or so, the Bears will hire a coach who understands that you should always try making a game winning field goal as close as possible, rather than just settling for a ~40 yarder.

That Nagy doesn't understand this, with this team's past history with field goals, is stunning.

[dice]

Are we officially in "blow it up" territory? If you don't have a great QB in this league, you don't have anything. Should the Bears try to trade some of their major pieces away to recoup some draft picks to try to find that QB? Move Mack and Allen Robinson to a contender, what's the point of hanging on to them

tough to move the next 4 years of mack's backloaded contract right now. i don't think any team is that desperate for short-term help

[dice]

One day in the next century or so, the Bears will hire a coach who understands that you should always try making a game winning field goal as close as possible, rather than just settling for a ~40 yarder.

That Nagy doesn't understand this, with this team's past history with field goals, is stunning.

mistake, but honestly coaches do that all the time. and given the disaster at the end of the 1st half it's hard to fault concern that a fumble might occur. kinda the way the day was going

the bigger mistake was putting trubisky in the position to almost get sacked and taken OUT of FG range at the end there. gotta either run the ball or get the ball outta there quick on a pass

[Susan]

Are we officially in "blow it up" territory? If you don't have a great QB in this league, you don't have anything. Should the Bears try to trade some of their major pieces away to recoup some draft picks to try to find that QB? Move Mack and Allen Robinson to a contender, what's the point of hanging on to them

Get a QB (Brees, Brady, Bridgewater are all FAs this offseason) and run it back. They're too close to blow it up.

The only thing they need to do is release Mike Davis so we can get a 4th rounder.

[RememberLu]

Are we officially in "blow it up" territory? If you don't have a great QB in this league, you don't have anything. Should the Bears try to trade some of their major pieces away to recoup some draft picks to try to find that QB? Move Mack and Allen Robinson to a contender, what's the point of hanging on to them

tough to move the next 4 years of mack's backloaded contract right now. i don't think any team is that desperate for short-term help

But I'm sure every team realizes that Mack was going to get a giant extension by whoever traded for him. Why would they suddenly turn around and say he's not worth the cap space now?

Bears need to trade away whatever they can and get some picks back because, it's clear that Trubisky is not the answer. Nagy and Pace may not be the answer either but you need to keep drafting QBs if you're ever gonna have any hope of sustained success. The Macks and Allen Robinson's of the world are just a luxury when you don't have a QB

[Jeffster81]

Don't even have a first rd pick. Bears need to get to 7-8 wins to keep the Raiders from getting a top 5 pick.

I've seen enough of Nagy to move on from him this off-season.

To the Bears, Bulls and Blackhawks, I would like to personally thank you guys for a wonderful weekend of sports, you dip cow poop.

[dice]

Are we officially in "blow it up" territory? If you don't have a great QB in this league, you don't have anything. Should the Bears try to trade some of their major pieces away to recoup some draft picks to try to find that QB? Move Mack and Allen Robinson to a contender, what's the point of hanging on to them

tough to move the next 4 years of mack's backloaded contract right now. i don't think any team is that desperate for short-term help

But I'm sure every team realizes that Mack was going to get a giant extension by whoever traded for him. Why would they suddenly turn around and say he's not worth the cap space now?

he got a fair deal. the problem is that it was cheap in year one to fit him under the cap and not have to cut players. which contributed to an excellent improvement last season. then the deal was restructured this past offseason to maximize the chances of winning this season at the expense of future seasons

age 27 14 mil cap hit
age 28 12 mil cap hit
age 29-33 26 mil avg. cap hit

apparently a 7th year was added to the deal as part of the restructuring

also, on average a great pass rusher will begin to decline at age 30-31. some in their late 20s, some not until they're 33-34. reggie white was a unicorn who was a stud all the way up until retirement at age 38

age at initial decline of some big names:

28 millard/von miller (?) - could still return to peak play
29 gastineau/clyde simmons
30 jared allen
31 dent
32 doleman/LT
33 strahan/mathis/j taylor
34 bruce smith

it's fair to project that a decline in play would counteract a rising salary cap

The Macks and Allen Robinson's of the world are just a luxury when you don't have a QB

you got it

[fleet]

The howard trade was a stomach punch.
If you were told that following the trade the bears would be the worst offense in the league, does it sound like a good move?
No absolutely not.

This offense isnt playoff caliber, anybody with eyes can see.

David Montgomery is better than Jordan Howard.

They just needed to give him the ball.

there have only been 2 games that montgomery hasn't gotten carries. today was the 2nd game out of 5 that he's gotten opportunities that he's run the ball effectively. whether that's mostly the O-line's problem or whatever. he sure looked good today though

It was only the Chargers, but Nagy just committed to running the ball and more conventional offense for real this week. The offense was a little better moving the ball and TOP if I'm not mistaken, I haven't seen the box score. The O-Line was never the biggest problem if that much of a problem at all with regards to the run. It was the game plans. The game plans were bad all year until today. Nagy has to learn to work around the QB's limitations, Trubisky cannot run a pass oriented spread offense with a lot of decision making. Nagy hopefully is realizing this (we'll see though), but he's been in love with his own offense for far too long, and his ego has hurt him. Nagy does not fit this personel. He has to change himself. From what I understand, Nagy reverted to old form down the stretch. I turned the game off in the 3rd Q TBH

[transplant]

To me, this was Eagles playoff game redux. Parkey should have made that kick last year and Pineiro should have made that kick today. Lots of NFL teams in a similar situation would have put it on the kicker. The Bears did and got burned.

Trubisky made some mistakes and also made some great throws, particularly late. Again, he got his team in a position to win...but they didn't.

Nagy made some head-scratching play calls, but they should have won this game.

Like the Philly game last year, I heard all about how it wasn't Cody Parkey's fault. No, it was Cody Parkey's fault...and today it was Eddie Pineiro's fault.

[Chi town]

This all on Nagy.

1. Inside the red zone and near the goalie forever and settling for field goals.

2. Playing not to lose at the end with a 40 yard field goal when we had plenty of time and a timeout to move the ball down the field. Pineiro missed from 33 yards earlier but you have confidence in a 40 yards with the game on the line.
AWFUL CALL NAGY.

3. Mitch wasn’t anything special but he did enough to win.

4. Nagy finally commits to the run game and look what happens. How does it take a coach 7 games to figure that out. AWFUL

[Chi town]

Excuse my language but the entire defense should take turn sodomizing Trubisky after today performance. The dude is mentally weak and just sucks at playing football.

Dude, grow the **** up. It's a game and you're being foul.

That is excessive, but Trubisky is the weakest link.

That is so out of bounds I can’t believe I just read it. Shocking.

[fleet]

Some are going, Mitch wasnt great, but he put us in position to win. Like almost trying to placate us. But the problem lies in that he is not great, and does not really win ballgames, despite the team record. He was not brought here to make a couple good throws to get the Bears in field goal position, he was brought here to dominate. 16 points, ladies and gentlemen. LA Chargers.

[Red Larrivee]

Some are going, Mitch wasnt great, but he put us in position to win. Like almost trying to placate us. But the problem lies in that he is not great, and does not really win ballgames, despite the team record. He was not brought here to make a couple good throws to get the Bears in field goal position, he was brought here to dominate. 16 points, ladies and gentlemen. LA Chargers.

Yeah, he's a replacement level QB at best. The missed TD on Gabriel followed by his fumble were the biggest plays outside of the missed FG that lost the game.

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